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Old 01-23-2013, 07:58 PM
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Default DBW to DBC tps problem..or pcm?

Hi everyone.
Read me carefully, because I rarely write or speak english so i'm sure i'll do tons of error...

This is my problem:
I help my friend with is projet. He race in the DMCC(drift mania canadian championship) in Québec, Canada.
The car:
Nissan 240sx 1995
The engine:
LS1 with LS6 intake and drive by cable throttle.

We have a pcm with blue-red plug. I don't no the exact year of the pcm. I found the number 16204842 in the casing but outside there is nothing. I only found incomplete list of pcm numbers..
I found that the PCM is 0411 512kb aka P01..

MY PROBLEM.
On our TB, we only have one plug. It's a 1 row 6 pin connector(tps). I removed all the wire that go to the TAC module and all the 6 wire to the TB were going to the TAC module.

I search everywhere for minimum 30 hours on the net... and now i'm asking you...
It's look like if everyone have 3 pin tps or 6 pin on two row.
where do I put those 6 wire?
On the PCM I have no 5v ref for tps, no tp1 and tp2 pin....but I have the two iat pin.

the rubber on the plug is white and wire colors are: pink, white, yellow, dk blue, ppl and green.

For the PCM, I saw that when you flash it you turn off the DBW and you can operate the tps on your DBC...if the PCM is compatible. But I want to plug everything before the car leave the garage.

I need help to:
1-know if my PCM is compatible to run DBC
2-how to wire my TPS

Just ask if you need specific information or if you don't understand something.
*the car will have a dyno tuning.
I'll put some pic

thank's a lot, because now I don't know what to do!!!
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You can follow us on facebook, LB drift team
summer 2012 the car as a sr20det with gt3071r but he blow at the last race..
we also have a t56..







I register on the forum few minutes ago, but i'll try to do a complete topic of the projet.
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other pic!
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Need a better picture of the TB...

I found that the '98 to '04 Vettes and trucks have 6-wire TPS connectors, but it appears that the TB you have in that pic above is DBC and is not DBW. Either way, we need more info and pics.

Check this out:
http://chevythunder.com/drive_by_wire.htm#1998-2004 Corvette and Truck Throttle Body
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Originally Posted by HectorM52
Need a better picture of the TB...

I found that the '98 to '04 Vettes and trucks have 6-wire TPS connectors, but it appears that the TB you have in that pic above is DBC and is not DBW. Either way, we need more info and pics.

Check this out:
http://chevythunder.com/drive_by_wire.htm#1998-2004 Corvette and Truck Throttle Body
Thank you. I already read this page
yes it's like my TPS, exactly the same of the '98 to '04 Vette.
The throttle body on our engine is drive by cable. I think that my topic is very bad because I tried to explain that we want to remove the DBW system to operate DBC. So it's why we have a DBC TB.

On the TB, we installed the 6 pins TPS. I Cut and remove those wire because they were going to the TAC module. Now my TPS is not connected to anything.
Where do I connect those 6 wire?

I will take pictures of the TB, but I don't know what you need to see
There's only one sensor on it.

thank you very much,
Marc
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Oh.. sorry, When I wrote the topic I had two much things in my head !
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Why not just get a 3 wire TPS and wire it up that way? Seems like it would be easier than trying to use a DBW TPS.
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Originally Posted by ls1nova71
Why not just get a 3 wire TPS and wire it up that way? Seems like it would be easier than trying to use a DBW TPS.
Ummm, yeah, what he said.

You need to get the TPS that is appropriate to your PCM (match the year/style) just in case there are differences between models/years.

Then grab that 3-pin plug and wire it up.
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Originally Posted by HectorM52
Ummm, yeah, what he said.

You need to get the TPS that is appropriate to your PCM (match the year/style) just in case there are differences between models/years.

Then grab that 3-pin plug and wire it up.
ok! I didn't know that my tps is specialy for DBW...it's logic..

But do I need to change my PCM? The PCM were in a DBW vette So there's no pinout for the TPS.

Thank you, after this we will continue the project and I'll try to do a topic with pictures from the begining to the race track!
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No, you won't need to chnge the PCM, you'll just have to set it in the tune for DBC. You'll also have to add the pins and wires in the harness for the TPS and IAC.
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Ok.
On our TB, there's no place for The iac. Can the engine work correctly without the iac?
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Time to source a $40 DBC TB from a '99 Silverado or something along those lines. Even in Canada I'm sure you could find something quickly and cheaply. Sell that one and rock on!!
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you may need to open up the pcm and look for the drivers for the IAC. Search there are pics on here for what to look for. not all DBW pcm's have the drivers
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He said he's using a 0411 PCM, they all have IAC drivers in them, but you are right when it comes to some newer PCM's.
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Thank you!
it's difficult for me because i'm at school and the car is at 300km of me! yesterday I had some pictures of The tb. Finaly, right over the tps there's a plug(bolt) for the iac! I have the harness with me So I will run the wire for it!

thank you ls1tech and all those who help me!
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So what did u do to fix this issueim in the same situation thanks



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