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Old 01-24-2013, 03:02 PM
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Ok I have (2) 12" Kicker Comp subs (150 watt RMS each) and a Rockford Fosgate Prime 500.1 mono amp. I know these aren't huge power rating components, but just doing some beat while maintaing a budget.

Here is the amp:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-f3YpTZ6...me-R500-1.html

Here is the subs:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_2064CWS...24.html?tp=111

Now i'm trying to get the most power out of them. I have the left subs neg/pos connected to the left side amps neg/pos. And vise versa were the right subs neg/pos is connected to the amps right side neg/pos.
I heard you can't "bridge" a mono amp, but maybe run the wires in parallel to bring the ohms down and max the power??

I'm kinda noob to stereo electronic and the wording to some of it, so If you can please explain I would greatly appreciate it!

P.S. Even though as of now, these little powered subs do hit decent
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http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchf...4-ohm_mono.jpg

I don't understand why the amp has 2 positive and 2 negatives if its a mono amp.

But this should still produce the best results I believe.
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Originally Posted by Skraight
http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchf...4-ohm_mono.jpg

I don't understand why the amp has 2 positive and 2 negatives if its a mono amp.

But this should still produce the best results I believe.
I have my wiring done exactly like how it is in that diagram you posted.

Yeah I'm confused on the mono amp having 2 sets of speaker hookups?

I have the sub (+) wire going to the outside (+) on the amp, and the sub (-) wire going to the outside (-) of the amp. Here is a pic:
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And what if I wire it like this?

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the reason is mono amp has two pos and two neg terminals is so that you can wire 2 subs in parallel to it. both pos terminals and both neg terminals go to the same place respectively inside the amp.

so if you connect 2x 4ohm subs you get 2ohms or 2x 2ohms you get 1ohm
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So if I have them hooked up the way it is in the first diagram, is that correct? Or should I go back and connect each sub directly to each terminal?
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the 2 negative connections on the amp are actually the SAME connection, as soon as they go inside the amp they combine, same for the positive connections, so wiring the way your described in the first post left sub to left negative and left positive (or right positive it DOESN'T matter) and right sub to the other two connections is the same as wiring the way in your most recent image, the benefit of the first way is it allows, potentially, more power then the single pair of wires from the amp would. As long as negative goes to negative and positive to positive it doesn't matter.

here is a picture of the inside of my old monoblock that got burned up explaining it.
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Originally Posted by Daniel Richards
the 2 negative connections on the amp are actually the SAME connection, as soon as they go inside the amp they combine, same for the positive connections, so wiring the way your described in the first post left sub to left negative and left positive (or right positive it DOESN'T matter) and right sub to the other two connections is the same as wiring the way in your most recent image, the benefit of the first way is it allows, potentially, more power then the single pair of wires from the amp would. As long as negative goes to negative and positive to positive it doesn't matter.

here is a picture of the inside of my old monoblock that got burned up explaining it.
ok cool, I see what your saying.

I guess I'll keep it the way it's wired in this link:
http://apicdn.viglink.com/api/click?...4-ohm_mono.jpg
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Originally Posted by tnmotown
ok cool, I see what your saying.

I guess I'll keep it the way it's wired in this link:
http://apicdn.viglink.com/api/click?...4-ohm_mono.jpg
that works. wutevers easier for you
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The output terminal configuration is mentioned in the amp's manual several times...

"Two Positive (+) and Negative (–) terminals are provided for installation flexibility. Both terminals are wired in parallel internally. Only one Positive (+) and one Negative (–) terminal is required for a speaker connection."

If you have the two subs wired individually to the two pairs of terminals on the amp then you already have them in parallel (because of the parallel connection of the terminals inside the amp) and there is no need to rewire - they are already providing the net 2-ohm load.

It never hurts to read the manual.
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
The output terminal configuration is mentioned in the amp's manual several times...

[...]It never hurts to read the manual.
even says it on the amp itself at the terminals-
Originally Posted by tnmotown
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