Conversions & Swaps LSX Engines in Non-LSX Vehicles
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

LS1 vs. LQ4 swap option

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-29-2013, 10:49 PM
  #1  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Jasony0228's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default LS1 vs. LQ4 swap option

Hi.
I'm new to these LS engine.
Looking to swap v8 into my E36.
Read alot of info online but still not sure which one to go with.
The different between LS1 and LQ4 is not much imo. But price is huge different.
Iron vs alum. (70 lbs different)
6.0 vs 5.7
low comp vs high comp
Im going to run T56 tran on either of the engine.
I'm looking to keep it stock for while but want to build it to 450ish hp.
I want to keep it NA since its daily drive with some track event or mountain drive.
Which will be better to start with?
Which will be cheaper to make 450hp?
Which will you guys recommend?
Thanks for all the help
Old 01-29-2013, 10:54 PM
  #2  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (4)
 
i r teh noobz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 784
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

6.0 with some headwork and a cam should be able to hit around 450 from what I've seen. Don't pay the premium for the LS1 RPO.
Old 01-29-2013, 11:02 PM
  #3  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
97camaroguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 499
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Lq4 will save you money plus it'll add some money for that twin turbo you'll be slapping on it
Old 01-29-2013, 11:24 PM
  #4  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Jasony0228's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 97camaroguy
Lq4 will save you money plus it'll add some money for that twin turbo you'll be slapping on it
Sorry I'm not looking for turbo.
Keeping it NA
Old 01-30-2013, 12:15 AM
  #5  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (1)
 
garys 68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Camdenton, MO
Posts: 3,706
Likes: 0
Received 32 Likes on 31 Posts

Default

Spend a few bucks extra up front, get the higher compression 6.0 LQ9. With just an exhaust and a tune, you're at over 400hp.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...#ixzz21ehbAsre
Old 01-30-2013, 01:32 AM
  #6  
Registered User
 
LS1PoweredBrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: So Cal
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Would the LS1 vs the LQ9 really be that much cheaper if you have to swap the truck accessories to the car accessories to fit it under the hood? Plus swapping the intake over to an ls1/ls6. If your starting from scratch the price starts to add up on the LQ9. I may be wrong, but im wondering the same question for my swap ls1 vs lQ9.
Old 01-30-2013, 02:11 AM
  #7  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Jasony0228's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by garys 68
Spend a few bucks extra up front, get the higher compression 6.0 LQ9. With just an exhaust and a tune, you're at over 400hp.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...#ixzz21ehbAsre
If it's lq4 vs lq9, there is no doubt I'm going with lq4.


Originally Posted by LS1PoweredBrick
Would the LS1 vs the LQ9 really be that much cheaper if you have to swap the truck accessories to the car accessories to fit it under the hood? Plus swapping the intake over to an ls1/ls6. If your starting from scratch the price starts to add up on the LQ9. I may be wrong, but im wondering the same question for my swap ls1 vs lQ9.
The f body accessories is one of my concern as well. Plus need oil pan from f body
But I wouldn't start with lq9 since it's pretty much the same as lq4 beside compression.
Old 01-30-2013, 07:03 AM
  #8  
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (5)
 
psiconversion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Brick, NJ
Posts: 1,310
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

Another advantage to the 6.0 is that you can go with the LS3 top end later down the line if you want more power. You cant put the LS3 heads on the 5.7.

Jon
PSI
__________________

Your Source for LSX Conversion Parts!
www.psiconversion.com

Ebay Store
Facebook/psiconversion
Instagram/psiconversion

'Dont Let EFI Pass You By!'
Old 01-30-2013, 07:39 AM
  #9  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (1)
 
garys 68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Camdenton, MO
Posts: 3,706
Likes: 0
Received 32 Likes on 31 Posts

Default

I spent $35 for the LS1 intake, $100 for the vette pan. Reused truck TB and injectors.
Accessories will depend on the seap. I was able to use truck alt/ps bracket on one swap.
On the AC compressor, a lot here seem to relocate upper passenger and use aftermarket compressor. If you do use stock location, the truck have a fixed displacement compressor that seems to work better with older AC systems as opposed to the LS1s variable displacement.
Cost to make 400hp is a lot less with the LQ9, 450hp will be about the same for both, 500+hp would be a lot cheaper with the LQ9 since you can use the L92 heads on a 6.0, but not the 5.7.
Add to that, LS1s have not been made for quite a few years. It's pretty easy to find low milage truck motors.

Originally Posted by LS1PoweredBrick
Would the LS1 vs the LQ9 really be that much cheaper if you have to swap the truck accessories to the car accessories to fit it under the hood? Plus swapping the intake over to an ls1/ls6. If your starting from scratch the price starts to add up on the LQ9. I may be wrong, but im wondering the same question for my swap ls1 vs lQ9.
Old 01-30-2013, 04:43 PM
  #10  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Jasony0228's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by garys 68
I spent $35 for the LS1 intake, $100 for the vette pan. Reused truck TB and injectors.
Accessories will depend on the seap. I was able to use truck alt/ps bracket on one swap.
On the AC compressor, a lot here seem to relocate upper passenger and use aftermarket compressor. If you do use stock location, the truck have a fixed displacement compressor that seems to work better with older AC systems as opposed to the LS1s variable displacement.
Cost to make 400hp is a lot less with the LQ9, 450hp will be about the same for both, 500+hp would be a lot cheaper with the LQ9 since you can use the L92 heads on a 6.0, but not the 5.7.
Add to that, LS1s have not been made for quite a few years. It's pretty easy to find low milage truck motors.
I doubt I can found those for that kind of price. Like I state before I cannot use any of the Truck accessories. I have to source Fbody accessories and oil pan to make it fit into my e36.
Old 01-31-2013, 08:21 PM
  #11  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Jasony0228's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

bump.
More input?
Old 01-31-2013, 08:55 PM
  #12  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (4)
 
i r teh noobz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 784
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Do the math and see if the accessories are going to be cost-effective to swap. My 5.3 ended up costing as much as an LS1 after all was said and done.
Old 01-31-2013, 09:34 PM
  #13  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
hicksport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North East Texas
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Things to consider, wieght: Iron blocks are just a tad over 100LBS heavier that aluminum. Accesories: The LS1 stuff isnt made any more and is getting harder and harder to find. Look to the Vette stuff that is still avalable from dealers. Ive replaced 2 aluminum motors with iron blocks with no problems in my setups. If the wieght isnt going to hurt your setup Id stay with the iron blocks, much cheaper and easier too find.



Quick Reply: LS1 vs. LQ4 swap option



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:58 AM.