69-er

I have a factory Denso 10s17f compressor mounted on an LS2 that I would like to use with a Classic Air brand AC system. I asked Classic Air if this compressor would work and they said yes, but the Sanden would work better. He didn't say why or how much better. It's not the variable dispalcement design so I know this wouldn't be an issue.

Has anybody used the Denso with an aftermarket AC on their conversion?

Docked Wage

I think it has to do with hose adapters being readily available for the Sanden. I am not aware of adapters being available for the Denso.

69-er

Yeah, I'm finding that out. I thought I had it figured out until I discovered today that the fitting adapters that Doc Blocks used to sell aren't made anymore by the new company.

Docked Wage

FWIW, When I talked to vintage air about doing my jeep they offered (at a cost) to take a stock set of Denso lines and cut them off and sweat on the new lines that go to their components.

67Skylark

I'm in the same boat, I plan to use the stock compressor and mount with Classic Auto Air system. The Guys at Classic Auto Air said they could cut/crimp old lines if I had them, I do not. I will either buy the fittings from Nostalgic Air Parts (part number GM1605) or visit local pick and pull yard.

http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/air...10s20f-593.php

ls1nova71

iTrader: (4)

The answer to your question on why the Sanden will work better is most likely a displacement issue. I don't know about Classic Air, but the way it was explained to me by Vintage Air is they design the systems around the capacities os the Sanden. A/C systems work best when everything works together. Sure your system may work with another compressor, but probably wont be as efficient, thus wont work as well. It's the same thing as putting a really big cam in a stock engine, it may run, but it will be better with the rest of the upgrades.

Docked Wage

Hmm..Interesting...They left that factoid out when I spoke with them.

Thanks for the input. I'll be sure to ask about this when I decide to do my AC in the Jeep.

69-er

I was looking at those fittings too. The old AA2209 and AA2210 from Docs Blocks had the lines coming out the side of the blocks; much better clearance.

I thought of that too but this compressor came off of a full size, extended cab pickup. Based on the cabin volume of this truck and any other car or truck cabins this compressor was used on, I'm figure that this system was at least as big as a Vintage or Classic Air system. (Unless a compressor can be too big...)

ls1nova71

iTrader: (4)

A regular cab truck uses the same compressor, so I don't think you can go by cabin volume. You have to go by compressor displacment, based on condenser and evaporator size, and also if it's a fixed orifice or not, but basically, yes, a compressor can be too big.

sierrac3_s2000

iTrader: (6)

There is a company that sells on eBay that now has the adapters that Doc's used to sell.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-LS1-Style...bf93f8&vxp=mtr

Docked Wage

I scooped one up yesterday. Thanks for the tip.

Ken

67Skylark

This block would not work on my Denso compressor (2009 Express van LY6) no threaded hole in between the ports

sierrac3_s2000

iTrader: (6)

I was just linking to the vendor. If you message them or call them they have the one you need.

69-er

I emailed them too and they didn't have the fittings I needed either. My adapters are separate for each port. I wanted the ones that have the lines that come directly out the side of the blocks or anything similar.

sierrac3_s2000

iTrader: (6)

Well that's odd. When I contacted them they made me a set for the compressor on my Ecotec engine. They said they could do whatever I needed. I guess things have changed since then.

69-er

Maybe she just didn't read my whole question. She didn't offer any alternatives:

"Would you have the old "Docs Blocks" AA2209 and AA2210 adapters for a 10s17F compressor? I need something that turns a very tight 90 degree towards the front of the compressor."


"Unfortunately we do not carry those blocks.
Thank you,
Trish
Air Parts Inc"

Not very helpful...

wanderlodge

Does anybody know if a variable dieplacement compressor can work on a street rod air such a classic air if so how is the best way to set it up

69-er

Short answer, no. Try a search. I remember seeing a post on how to modify the variable compressor to defeat the "variable" aspect.