BanditTA

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I'm not a diesel fan, but this is definitely something I would consider to replace my HHR.

http://www.chevrolet.com/cruze-diesel-reveal.html

http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/n...diese-ovr.html

Other sites are saying 42mpg which is the same as the Cruze Eco and in the same ballpark as the Jetta TDI

djsanchez2

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That's freaking awesome! I know i'm not the only one who has been hoping they do this.

01 ss vert

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A year too late. I was waiting for GM to do this - instead I picked up a 2013 Kia Optima for my wife at the end of 2012. They said in 2011 it would come out in 2012. Considering we had my wifes Maxima for 12 years, we knew we were going to upgrade soon. Took GM too long and we had to look elsewhere. Although I would have liked the diesel, there is no way the inside of the cruze could think about matching the quality and eye candy of the Optima. I'm impressed everytime I get in that car. No regrets going with the Optima. It's a great car, and even better bang for the buck.

SSCamaro99_3

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May have to consider using those GM Card points.

Z Fury

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258 tq is huge on that little car. I wonder what they'll put down after a tune...

I'm waiting to see if the new Colorado/Canyon comes with a diesel. That would be my next DD/utility vehicle.

Not a bad decision at all. Optimas are damn nice.

Jon5212

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They will do much better once you remove the DPF and tune it. Just like the heavy duty trucks do.

Too late to the game chevy.

01 ss vert

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yeah, we have been very pleased. We paid another $1K for the even longer warranty - now we have 10 year, 120,000 mile bumper to bumper. We plan to keep it 12+ years just like her old car. Some features I didn't even need, but came with it - included heated rear seats, steering wheel, and front seats. My favorite feature - cooled front seats!

RedBaron

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It sucks that they won't be offering a manual transmission. Otherwise I'd buy one.

justin455

I'll admit this took them way too long to start doing, but the article even says it's the first clean diesel car ever offered by a domestic automaker. I don't consider than too late to the game when the only diesel cars you can buy here are the new Cruze, something from VW, or a german luxury car at a much higher price point.

01 ss vert

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But considering they have had it over seas aleady, and talked about it for a few years now - what's the hold up?

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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my moms cruze gets 42 mpg and im sure she paid less than 25k


now if performance is better thats good but will most buyers care?

justin455

My guess is a mix of GM's usual no hurry to get things out the door and the fact that its a brand new engine to the states and took some fine tuning to meet U.S. regulations etc.

BanditTA

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The factory overboost feature that ups the boost for passing/accelerating is pretty neat. I'm sure many car guys will just modify that feature alone for fulltime use.

As cool as it is, most Americans are still anti diesel. It will be interesting to see how it sells.

TriShield

Limited numbers, sold in limited markets, no manual transmission like a VW diesel and many years to pay back the premium over the four cylinder turbo... I'm not sure they're going to sell many of these.

firebird99

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So who is supplying GM with these engines if it's made in Germany?

justin455

My guess is GM is supplying themselves with this engine from their own European market cars (Opel, Vauxhall, etc.).

SparkyJJO

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So then what's the point? Same mpg, higher cost. More torque, yeah, but how many people are going to care that much for this car's market?

I would think a good part is the EPA. The US hates diesel for some reason.

firebird99

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Yeah for some reason I totally over looked those options but your probably right.

BanditTA

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That's been my point for years, I still will never understand the obsession with diesel and now that it costs more than normal gas it really doesn't make sense. People tend to beleive that because it's a diesel it gets magically double the fuel mileage as gas. Not to mention the costs to repair diesels and replace injectors (Dmax trucks) or to even purchase one new, neither even come close to breaking even.

A few friends of mine took a gas 8.1 Silverado and a diesel Dodge Cummings on a trip up north a few years ago. They both filled up at the same exact time and drove the exact same route (600miles). By the time they arrived both spent near the same amount of fuel - ya the diesel got slightly better mpg - but the cost of fuel alone didn't out weigh the benefit.

I'd buy one only to see and try, the additional "torque" doesn't do **** for me.

AronZ28

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Its the way our government taxes diesel fuel at a higher rate than gasoline. This is why diesel is more expensive, and why it has never caught on in the US.

Personally this policy pisses me off more than anything our government taxes. EVERYTHING we buy is shipped via diesel fuel on truck or the railroads. High diesel prices hurt our economy and encourage inflation. Prices on groceries are straight ridiculous now days thanks to the high cost of diesel.

I guarantee if diesel was even a constant $0.10-30 cheaper than gas it would cause a mass shift towards diesel cars, just because the public is a bunch of cheap bastards all about saving $2-3 a fill up. The big thing is modern diesel cars are so damn refined and just as quick as their gas counterparts there isn't any real tradeoff other than maybe a higher initial purchase price.