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Old 03-08-2013, 08:31 PM
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Ok so a little history... I bought this car from a dealership in Houston Texas "Global motorcars of Houston" back in november of 2012. DO NOT BUY FROM THEM!! The car was NOT acurately described in their listing and they did nothing to try and make things right. When it arrived it had a bad crankshaft position sensor and wouldnt run worth a ****. I replaced the sensor and it seemed to run fine until it warmed up.... The leaky MTI built 427 showed very low oil psi. I hooked up a mechanical oil pressure gauge and there was 10 psi at idle whereas on my other car there was well over 25psi at idle. I decided to cut my losses and park the car before causing any further damage. I planned to rebuild the dry sleeved 427 but unfortunately this motor is done and I decided to not throw any more money at it! A shim from the shaft mounted rocker arm stand broke in half and found its way through the engine down to the oil pan. Disassembly of the motor revealed a total of 6 spun bearings (3 main and 3 rod bearings) and deep scars on all remaining bearings, rods and the crank.. After I sold my ws6 I contacted Late Model Engines to build me a new short block, refresh the gtp heads, and spec a custom cam. It's no secret I got totally screwed buying this car and it sucks spending all this money but I'm having alot of fun building this car and making it MINE. Thank you guys for taking the time to check out the build and let me know what you think! and yes this car belonged to a member.

















Engine:

Old motor
- LS1 block sleeved with darton dry sleeve, 4.125" bore
- Lunati forged steel crankshaft 4.000" stroke
- Lunati 6.125" pro billet rods
- Custom weisco pistons, 11.25:1 compression
- MTI R1 camshaft .235/.236, .574/.578, 114 LSA


New motor










- GM LSX block 434ci
- Callies Dragonslayer 4" stroke crank
- Callies compstar H beam rods w arp 2000 bolts
- Wiseco custom pistons, 11:7:1 compression
- Custom cam 253/ 261, .650/ .650 112 +4
- LS7 lifters
- GTP stage 3 heads,
15* valve angle
Ferrea 2.08 1 piece swirl polished stainless steel intake valves
Ferrea 1.60 1 piece swirl polished stainless steel exhaust valves
Bronze valve guides LS1
LME dual valve spring kit: dual springs .675" lift, titanium retainers, locks, locators, Viton valve seals
-FLOW DATA-
341 CFM Intake @ .650 lift
230 CFM Exhaust @ .650 lift
- Yella Terra ultra lite shaft mounted rockers
- JP Performance LS2 double roller timing set
- Trick Flow 7.4" pushrods
- Harrop Hurricane intake
- PJ Motorsports custom velocity stacks
- SDPC carbon fiber valve covers
- Jazz Products breather can, AMW catch can.
- Mototron 60# injectors
- Racetronics fuel pump/ harness
- Meziere electric water pump
- Be Cool high cap. aluminum radiator
- Tick performance battery relocation
- Ls1 Powermaster high torque mini starter
- Ls1 Powermaster 150 amp alternator

Exhaust:
- Kooks 1 7/8 to 3" headers
- Kooks 3" stainless steel true duals

Suspension/Chassis:

- BMR tubular K member
- BMR lower control arms
- BMR Non adjustable upper control arms
- BMR chrome moly full length adjustable torque arm
- BMR torque arm relocation kit
- BMR driveshaft safety loop
- BMR adjustable panhard bar
- BMR upper panhard rod relocation kit
- Viking Performance double adjustible shocks with front coilovers.
- Strano 1.2" lowering springs- Rear
- Strano 35/22mm hollow sway bars
- Hotchkiss weld in subframe connectors
- Wolfe Racecraft Mini tub
- Wolfe Racecraft offset lower control arms

Drivetrain:

- LMR built T56
- Monster level 3 clutch & lightweight billet steel flywheel
- Tick Performance master cylinder
- New GM slave cylinder
- Pro 5.0 shifter, Hurst short stick
- Strange Engineering steel driveshaft
- Strange Engineering S60 rear end
Trutrac posi
1350 yoke
35 spline axles
4:11 gears
LCA relocation brackets

Brakes:

- SJM manufacturing ABS delete kit
- SJM manufacturing line lock
- 2005 CTS-V front Brembo 4 piston calipers powder coated blue
- 2009 Z06 14" drilled rotors
- FlyNBye braided steel PVC coated brake lines
- Brembo drilled rear rotors
- Hawk HPS front and rear brake pads


Wheels/Tires:

- CCW Classics 18x10 front
~Nitto 555R 285/35 R18
- CCW Classics 18x12 rear
~ mickey thompson et street 345/35R18

Exterior:

- 6LE carbon fiber sail panel
- 6LE carbon fiber rear diffuser
- 6LE "Q edition" front splitter
- 6LE dual plane splash guards
- OEM WS6 hood. OEM 2002 SLP Firehawk hood.

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94k miles of road grime and gear oil cleaned off and the S60 in its new home... time to get that 10 bolt cleaned up and put under the white car

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Default Kooks true duals came in

They're so beautiful its a damn shame they have to go UNDER the car



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Default Ported FAST 90 + valve covers paint job






FRESH baked valve covers


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Oh... and i have these from 6LEdesigns when it comes time for some bodywork




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Man, both cars look beautiful.
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Thanks man
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Im pretty sure that belonged to a memeber on here SHovV

edit: Didnt read it all so you already know. I always loved that combo of MBM and the classics..

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Originally Posted by mac62989
Im pretty sure that belonged to a memeber on here
Yup it was ShoVv's car
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Very nice cars as well. Always liked the blue one, even when the other guy had it. Sorry to hear about the misguidance on it though. But looks like a real nice shop to work on it.
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Originally Posted by WS6 What
Very nice cars as well. Always liked the blue one, even when the other guy had it. Sorry to hear about the misguidance on it though. But looks like a real nice shop to work on it.
yea after this I'll always test drive before i buy, but ya live and ya learn. Since I've started working on this car i can tell it was taken care of. There's no way all the stock stuff on this car would be in such good shape with the power from that 427. Thanks man, the shop still needs alot of work but that's a whole different project!
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Just messing around cleaning the under side of the car untill I can get some real time to work on it... I've been using this degreaser called Simple Clean and im actually pretty impressed.. It's really cheap and it kicks ***!

Exhaust heat shields before:




and after:



Installed:









Also did the passenger side wire mod. I'm gonna relocate the battery to the rear so I havnt messed with the ground wires yet

Before:





After


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looking really nice!!!

I like the shop and your entire set-up
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Originally Posted by 99wssixm6
looking really nice!!!

I like the shop and your entire set-up
Thanks man.. I see in your sig that you have that tick adj master cylinder. I was thinkin about getting one for the blue car, how do you like it?
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Today I pulled the trans out of the blue car, it was pretty easy since the top 3 (hardest to reach) of the 8 bolts holding the trans to the bellhousing were GONE. Apparently someone didn't have the patience to reinstall them. I Also found out that wasn't a stock clutch in there. That Doesn't matter tho, I'll be going back with a new clutch and new slave/master cylinders.







Now I've got some cleaning to do.. There's still sand from the 3rd coast caked up on the trans and under the trans tunnel!




Cleaning the ws6's trans before it goes in the blue car!


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Awesome build and I love MBM T/As. Sucks about the motor issues but I like how you haven't let that deter you
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Great looking cars. Goodluck on your build man!
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thanks bro
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so what was the deal with the car , guy from here probably knew the engine was going so he traded it to the dealership , and then you got it and they were not helpful at all?

Nice build , any plans for an aftermarket hood for the mbm . my favorite 4th gen color.
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Originally Posted by ramairetransam
so what was the deal with the car , guy from here probably knew the engine was going so he traded it to the dealership , and then you got it and they were not helpful at all?

Nice build , any plans for an aftermarket hood for the mbm . my favorite 4th gen color.
That's always a possibility man. I talked to the member who used to own it, he said he never had any problems with low oil psi and it never leaked a drop. But Now there's more oil on the bottom of the car than there is in the motor. It doesn't knock and it ran strong so I'm hoping theres no catastrophic damage. but ya never know till you tear it all apart. I know it sat at the dealership for a long time so I'm sure they beat the hell out of it. And that dealership is a joke, I wouldn't buy **** from them again, they did NOTHING to make this right and disclosed NOTHING in their listing.

I definitely want a ram air hood. I really want a Mecham hood but I've heard the fit isn't great and I'm not even sure if you can still order them?

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