I start cranking for 1st start then heard what seemed to be timing issues...
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I start cranking for 1st start then heard what seemed to be timing issues...
I built my 95 Z28...Bored the block .030 over..Jus a master rebuild kit no special pistons ore forged internals or any thing..Pacesetter Long tube headers..Ported Stock heads and intake...MSD cap and rotor..LT4 Hotcam and 1.6 Rockers...Rebuilt and mildly upgraded 4L60E...Bottom end was rebuilt by machine shop.
This is my 2nd 4th Gen but first 4th Gen rebuild..I installed parts to spec as described By All-Data Vehicle Information retrieval System..At first start (before connection coil wire)
I cranked the car for several seconds to build oil pressure. Fine.
Then I connect coil and cranked within the first few revolution it made a non frightening pop noise..Then a small amount light fog like smoke spit out the throttle body..
I put the engine(#1) on TDC...The crank timing gear facing 12 and can timing gear facing 6.
The valves are adjusted to proper lash..I have spark and Fuel..
Any suggestions to what might be wrong..Oh and the alternator is not connected..
This is my 2nd 4th Gen but first 4th Gen rebuild..I installed parts to spec as described By All-Data Vehicle Information retrieval System..At first start (before connection coil wire)
I cranked the car for several seconds to build oil pressure. Fine.
Then I connect coil and cranked within the first few revolution it made a non frightening pop noise..Then a small amount light fog like smoke spit out the throttle body..
I put the engine(#1) on TDC...The crank timing gear facing 12 and can timing gear facing 6.
The valves are adjusted to proper lash..I have spark and Fuel..
Any suggestions to what might be wrong..Oh and the alternator is not connected..
Last edited by DerickTurner57; 03-27-2013 at 09:06 AM.
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I had the same problem, turned out my opti was not in correctly. If your timing is correct on your timing gears im betting your problem lies in the opti. Or could be crossed plug wires.
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Thanks I appreciate that....A Guy was telling me how you can position the options in 3 ways...after I get #1 back on TDC and my timing marks lined up last time my opti was pointing to 3oclock...where shuld it be facing??
#5
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I'll wager you have the opti on wrong or plug wires mixed up.
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And from thee link you showed me from what it looks like I had my opti rotor positioned for #6 on tdc..but one #1 cylinder was up..Now its seems I was 180 out..I think you solved my problem..
#9
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Like the link says, as long as the special slot is over the cam dowel pin, it does not matter where it is positioned, it will be in time.
#10
So I pulled the water pump and pulled the opti...The dowel wasn't even over the cam pin...so it was just floating in between those balloon shaped spaces in the rotor..now. #1 is at TDC and the cam pin is at 9 oclock...I believe the timing marks on the cam and crank should both be at 12?...I haven't taken off the timing cover yet..
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To properly align the timing gears the positions are 6 for the cam gear and 12 for the crank gear. For TDC at #1 both should be at 12. Only thing you need to worry about is to ensure the gears are aligned properly by cranking the engine to see if the gears align at 6 and 12. After that you need not worry about timing until you adjust valves. The opti only goes on one way. It is not to be forced on and should sit flush with the timing cover. I've actually read where people have put it on, thought it was square even though there was space and drew it on using the bolts.
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Ok se I think I made the mistake of lining up my timing gears at 6 and 12 and cam pin was at 3 o'clock...but this was for #6 to be at TDC(combustion.)..but does that mean I Jus made the mistake of having #1 up for exhaust stroke...so when I rotate it to when the timing gears both align at 12 and the cam pin is at 9 o'clock then that shuld mean #1 is up for compression now???....and I made the mistake
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Again, do NOT worry about where the dowel pin is. Just worry about the cam and crank gears aligning at 6 and 12 like this:
Your opti only goes on one way therefore there is no need to worry about the position of your cam/crank as long as they were aligned properly when the chain was put on.
Your opti only goes on one way therefore there is no need to worry about the position of your cam/crank as long as they were aligned properly when the chain was put on.
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Ok se I think I made the mistake of lining up my timing gears at 6 and 12 and cam pin was at 3 o'clock...but this was for #6 to be at TDC(combustion.)..but does that mean I Jus made the mistake of having #1 up for exhaust stroke...so when I rotate it to when the timing gears both align at 12 and the cam pin is at 9 o'clock then that shuld mean #1 is up for compression now???....and I made the mistake
#18
Ok I definately lined up the timing gears like that and had #1 tdc...Im going to make sure I get the opti lined up right.....I know the Pcm was going crazy trying to identify what was going on...lol