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Old 05-11-2013, 07:35 PM
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I figured out this week that I'm gonna build a stroker, I have an LS-1 w/ TEA stage 1.5 (862) casting heads. I wanna get this done fairly quickly! (Summer doesn't last long in Western NY) I can do a 383 with my block or try & find a 6.0 & do a 408. I talked w/ Josh at TSP & he thinks w/ the weight of the car & what I use it for that there won't be alot of difference. The car is a 1923 Ford T-bucket that weighs about 2000 lbs & will be a street car that occasionally races whatever pulls up next to it...lol TSP will custom spec a cam for me but I see alot of guys on here us Patrick G. Anybody know where I can find a 6.0 that will work? Also, do you think there is a big difference where you have the cam spec'd? Also, any thought on 383 vs 408?
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Yeah, weighing 2000lbs i couldnt see a big difference between the two engines.
I would tear down the LS1 block and if the cylinders are ok and just need a Hone, i would use the block that you have & save $$$. Buy the time you buy a 6.0 block + shipping and bore/hone, that would pay for a Lunati 4.00 stroke Voodoo crank. 769$ shipped on Ebay. Just my 2 cents worth.
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The 4 inch bore in a 6.0 stroked will take more advantage of the cylinder heads. Either way, if you are not serious and not needing every bit of power, then a 383 is fine. Use what you have I say. Pat G is damn good for the EFI guys. But Martin at tick has been making damn sure us carbed guys are taken care of. He had made us some off shelf grinds and specs custom grinds for guys like you all day. Pat G will give you specs but Martin gets them ground and shipped. Either would get you taken care of but Martin gets my vote. I could not be happier with all he has been doing for us.
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408 if you can I have a 383 and wish I would have went 408 all the time.......
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Thanks for the input guys! Hey Swaybird, what makes you wish you went with the 408? Have you run both?
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if u need some forged 6.125 rod for a motor lmk I have some Manley with arp2000 bolts for sale
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Originally Posted by lilaaron233333
if u need some forged 6.125 rod for a motor lmk I have some Manley with arp2000 bolts for sale
I'm actually gonna buy a rotating assembly balanced from TSP, but thanks!
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BTW, does anyone know exactly which 6.0 block will work with my ls1 parts? Trying pretty hard to find one with no luck yet. Does it have to be generation III ?
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Any will work with the stroker crank and rods. The pistons are 4 inch.
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Any will work with the stroker crank and rods. The pistons are 4 inch.
So all my parts will work on Lq-9 or Lq-4?
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As far as crank and rods yes. The pistons are specific to the lq4/9/ly6. They are all a 4 inch bore. Ls1 is 3.9.
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I run a 383 and th400 in my 2000 Z-28 I run 7.70'sin the 1/8th mile still working timing and fuel bugs out but I have a buddy that's got a 408 and th400 and he runs 7.60's tuned. Only difference is my car weighs 450-500lbs less than his. So 383 gets my vote since you already have the block and on cam TSP can get a custom grind to your door in about 3-5 days they had mine to me in 3 days from Comp Cams.
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Damn, my 5.3 goes 7.7 and my 6.0 went 7.0s. You guys need some serious work.
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Originally Posted by CarbedZ-28
I run a 383 and th400 in my 2000 Z-28 I run 7.70'sin the 1/8th mile still working timing and fuel bugs out but I have a buddy that's got a 408 and th400 and he runs 7.60's tuned. Only difference is my car weighs 450-500lbs less than his. So 383 gets my vote since you already have the block and on cam TSP can get a custom grind to your door in about 3-5 days they had mine to me in 3 days from Comp Cams.
I was getting ready to order the 383 for the reasons you stated, but got a call this morning & a local junyard found me a 6.0 shortblock for $300.00 , so I think I'm gonna do the 408 & see what I can get for the aluminum block. Any idea what that block is worth with a spun bearing? It's got a custom predator z cam 230/230 612/591 111+2 lsa. ? Thanks for input from everyone! I'm gonna start a build thread as soon as I start ordering parts.
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My 7.7 is in 4400ft da what's yours? It will go faster but with the crap air we have in west texas (odessa) it takes awhile to get it just right at the track and we have limited test n tunes.

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With a spun bearing I would make sure they line hone the mains and check them, I bought a 2001 aluminum block about 4 years ago that had spun rod bearing and one of the main bores was out of spec, I only paid $150 for it but I was pissed.
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No idea what the DA ever is on the dot, but 2200 is a normal. Neve ran any faster or slower on any given DA, weather winter or summer.



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