Burnout with an A4
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Burnout with an A4
I have a question about my car its a 98 trans am its pretty much stock with just a k&n, flowmaster, and the free ram air mod and it has 3.23s GU5 is the number?? anyway i have trouble lighting the tires up from a stop and im not sure why...anyone have any ideas???
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It's the pedal on the right
Seriously, I can't tell for certain you why you're having problem with the info you provide. I could smoke my tires no problem when stock. I can smoke my drag radials no problem after the converter install.
I can tell you a few things:
1. The Flowmaster could be costing you power. Dyno charts show 30hp up top when compared to a Borla.
2. If your having problems getting some scratch ont he street you should make sure your car is working properly. See if you can get some diagnostic equipment/program like AutoTap or a Tech II and check everything out.
3. If all else fails: hold the brake,mat the gas,spin the tires up and roll out the brake. That'll make for a nice smokeshow.
Seriously, I can't tell for certain you why you're having problem with the info you provide. I could smoke my tires no problem when stock. I can smoke my drag radials no problem after the converter install.
I can tell you a few things:
1. The Flowmaster could be costing you power. Dyno charts show 30hp up top when compared to a Borla.
2. If your having problems getting some scratch ont he street you should make sure your car is working properly. See if you can get some diagnostic equipment/program like AutoTap or a Tech II and check everything out.
3. If all else fails: hold the brake,mat the gas,spin the tires up and roll out the brake. That'll make for a nice smokeshow.
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What gear are you doing your burnout in? Maybe you just aren't giving it enough gas. Don't be scared... turn off the traction control (if you have it) and nail the gas! Try it in 2nd gear. You might also be holding the brake too firmly. With your set up, you really shouldn't be having any problems. Are you doing a dry burnout or are you getting the tires wet? Don't try "easing" into the gas... pedal to the floor!
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If I use the brake then its no problem, and I know the flowmaster needs to go! It was on there when I got it, but I'll try to check the comp to see if its running right. My friend and I think it might have either some programing or a shift kit...its a really rough shift into second... Its weird that it wont smoke the tires, my first time at the local drag strip I went 13.9@103 with a .9 reaction time...
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dont forget that 13.9 was my first time ever at the drag strip...im sure it can do better but im just trying to figure out why if i just let off the brakes and floor it the car doesnt loose traction like crazy, it squeels for about 15-20ft and will scratch 2nd...it seems like first is soft and then it shifts hard into 2nd and 3rd, maybe a tci ssf3500 will help...this is my daily driver too...
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Originally Posted by Solid GraphiX
If I use the brake then its no problem, and I know the flowmaster needs to go! It was on there when I got it, but I'll try to check the comp to see if its running right. My friend and I think it might have either some programing or a shift kit...its a really rough shift into second... Its weird that it wont smoke the tires, my first time at the local drag strip I went 13.9@103 with a .9 reaction time...
Check your trans fluid just to be on the safe side.
Are you sure the tires aren't spinning? There are some tires that make no squealing noises and hardly any smoke. When I switched from Yokohamas to BFG DR's the car was a different animal entirely. Turns out I was spinning up all the time with the Yokohamas and never really knew it. The BFGs hook much more consistently.
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Hey man I wouldn't worry to much, I can hook very well on the street except when it's cold....like today when it SNOWED!!! But I have 275's out back but that shouldn't make a huge diffrence though. My first time at the track I went from a 14.01 to a 13.5 and believe it or not the 13.5 was my first and best run of the day. But like was said before we shouldn't complain if we are hooking. Good luck
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My Goodyears make almost no noise when spinning.
What kind of tires are on there now? Is there traction
control?
Burnouts, with a stock converter, are all about torque
and HP doesn't matter much - you're held down way
out of powerband. So I don't think the exhaust and
even inlet shortcomings would play. Until it breaks
free you probably don't see the high side of 3000RPM.
What kind of tires are on there now? Is there traction
control?
Burnouts, with a stock converter, are all about torque
and HP doesn't matter much - you're held down way
out of powerband. So I don't think the exhaust and
even inlet shortcomings would play. Until it breaks
free you probably don't see the high side of 3000RPM.
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dunno i had yokohama a-509 tires in the back at normal tire pressure, i was able to leave quite a patch all stock 2.73 A4 with 66K miles on her.
would get all squirrely. threw some 555 DR's on and the thing would barely chirp em no matter how i tried.
so with normal street tires you should be able to lay some serious drag, make sure your TCS/ASR is off though
would get all squirrely. threw some 555 DR's on and the thing would barely chirp em no matter how i tried.
so with normal street tires you should be able to lay some serious drag, make sure your TCS/ASR is off though
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No traction control, and Falken tires on 17x9.5 zr-1 wheels...i bought it this way and really havent changed anything. also the tires do spin when i take off but it doesnt really smoke or make any noise. it will spin for only about 15 - 20 ft.
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Well I went out tonight and held the brakes and put it to the floor and waited untill my rpms went to about 4500 and let off the brakes...it didnt stop untill it shifted to second...
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I think you are expecting too much, same thing happened to me. When i first got my car three years ago I expected to be able to turn off ASR, stomp on it, and just spin the stock tires but it didn't usually go down that way. I did, however, find out how easy it was to do a donut and later perfected the brake-stand burnout. I made some REALLY REALLY DARK and LLOONNGG black streaks some times. Put it in 1, push brake maybe halfway down, and slam the loud pedal to the floor. Keep the gas pedal pretty far down and if you control the gas/brake right you should be able to (if you have tires that aren't too sticky) hover the RPM's pretty high while staying motionless. I was able to hover at like 5k for a good bit and then let off the brake and stab the gas all the way down and ride it out.
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Originally Posted by Solid GraphiX
I have a question about my car its a 98 trans am its pretty much stock with just a k&n, flowmaster, and the free ram air mod and it has 3.23s GU5 is the number?? anyway i have trouble lighting the tires up from a stop and im not sure why...anyone have any ideas???
I have driven in cars with 3.23's, and Vigilante 2800 2.5 STR, and with half pedal exceleration, the tires were smoking, and the vehicle was pulling sideways (torque steer).
I have 3.73's coupled to a Y3000, 2.0 STR (milder than the Vigilante), and I have no trouble lighting them up.
If you do a TC change, you will have to adjust the shift points, so the PCM will know when to properly shift the car, TM for a 98 model should not be a factor.
Change your stock converter.
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I've been looking to buy a new converter but this car is my daily driver and I have a very low budget for a TC but i've been thinking about a TCI super street fighter or street fighter...not sure which one i should get and suggestions??
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Originally Posted by Solid GraphiX
I've been looking to buy a new converter but this car is my daily driver and I have a very low budget for a TC but i've been thinking about a TCI super street fighter or street fighter...not sure which one i should get and suggestions??
IMHO, anything above a 3500 stall, would give you too much slipage. You should also consider a 24K trans cooler, and the LS6 (vette) 2-4 servo, and a transgo shift kit, all these combined (with exception of the cooler) will help take the slop out of the stock transmission, and give you crisper shifts.
Good luck with your choice.
SteveC