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07-19-2013, 10:10 PM
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Intake Ok, so I have a 94 T/A and want to eliminate my short ram intake and just put a air filter on the throttle body to clean up a bit. How do I bypass the sensors on the intake.
08-02-2013, 09:56 PM
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I don't know if anybody is interested, but we did a dyno test about this. A guy with a bone stock '95 Camaro wanted a dyno tune and a K&N air filter and duct kit. Decided it was a good time to test air filter and ducting kits. So, we tied the car on the dyno and made three pulls for a base line. Without moving the car we put the K&N kit on. Three more pulls, got the coolant back to the same temp first. We were very surprised at the gain, 8 rwhp averaging the pulls. Very surprising. I decided it would be a good time to see the difference between that and my ram air TA air box. Figured losing the long duct and bends would be worth some more. Dead wrong, exactly same power and torque as the K&N kit.
The functional ram air, at the track, was only worth about half a MPH in cool weather, zero in hot weather. Tested that at the track on my TA.
Things you would think just HAS to be worth power will sometimes surprise you.
That is what God made back-to-back testing for. Hard to get fast when you don't actually know what does what.
Hope this helps with your decision.
The functional ram air, at the track, was only worth about half a MPH in cool weather, zero in hot weather. Tested that at the track on my TA.
Things you would think just HAS to be worth power will sometimes surprise you.
That is what God made back-to-back testing for. Hard to get fast when you don't actually know what does what.
Hope this helps with your decision.
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08-03-2013, 09:59 AM
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I don't know if anybody is interested, but we did a dyno test about this. A guy with a bone stock '95 Camaro wanted a dyno tune and a K&N air filter and duct kit. Decided it was a good time to test air filter and ducting kits. So, we tied the car on the dyno and made three pulls for a base line. Without moving the car we put the K&N kit on. Three more pulls, got the coolant back to the same temp first. We were very surprised at the gain, 8 rwhp averaging the pulls. Very surprising. I decided it would be a good time to see the difference between that and my ram air TA air box. Figured losing the long duct and bends would be worth some more. Dead wrong, exactly same power and torque as the K&N kit.
The functional ram air, at the track, was only worth about half a MPH in cool weather, zero in hot weather. Tested that at the track on my TA.
Things you would think just HAS to be worth power will sometimes surprise you.
That is what God made back-to-back testing for. Hard to get fast when you don't actually know what does what.
Hope this helps with your decision.
The functional ram air, at the track, was only worth about half a MPH in cool weather, zero in hot weather. Tested that at the track on my TA.
Things you would think just HAS to be worth power will sometimes surprise you.
That is what God made back-to-back testing for. Hard to get fast when you don't actually know what does what.
Hope this helps with your decision.
08-03-2013, 10:50 AM
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Just wanted to add that not all "ram air" setups are not created equally. Pretty much anything trying to use the factory setups will show modest gains at best. But running a velocity stack somewhere to get frontal air or the FTRA setups on the LS cars work great.
Just wanted to add this to what Ed said. What he posted is all correct IMO it just came off that all ram air setups would show the same results the way I read it.
Just wanted to add this to what Ed said. What he posted is all correct IMO it just came off that all ram air setups would show the same results the way I read it.
