Time for new parts,track soon
09-03-2013, 01:03 PM
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Time for new parts,track soon well finally got my 799 heads somewhat ported on exhaust and few other places, had them milled 30 off too with new springs,, then sent ptc converter back and let Kenny move it to 5000 stall,, got the new cam from
Tick 617/589 at 231/240 107 intake center line,,, so I hope to hit some good et's before soon,, plus putting it on e85 fuel too. my buddy benji coming next day or 2 to come check for pushrod length and ptv too,,,
Tick 617/589 at 231/240 107 intake center line,,, so I hope to hit some good et's before soon,, plus putting it on e85 fuel too. my buddy benji coming next day or 2 to come check for pushrod length and ptv too,,,
09-10-2013, 07:01 PM
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Well finally got the motor in today,,, now start hooking things up.. pushrods will prob be here before the weekend... so next week time to make some passes... I should have painted the heads too..
09-10-2013, 07:13 PM
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I got tired of keeping the orange motor clean.... 
I opted for black this time....and left the heads natural.
I don't think the aluminum goes that great with orange.
I opted for black this time....and left the heads natural.
I don't think the aluminum goes that great with orange.
09-14-2013, 08:27 PM
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Well my pushrods came in today,,wwwooooohhhhoooooo!!!!!!!! maybe ill hear it run Monday,,,, ive got to much work to do on my house tomorrow,,, so Monday first run day with new heads and cam maybe,,,,
09-17-2013, 09:10 PM
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Well got the mustang going today,,, sounds great,, Big thanks to Tick Performance for the good sounding camshaft,,, I tried getting a video today but phone would not let me send to puter,,, hope to get out tomorrow and drive it down the road,, prob going to race Friday night.. so ill let everyone know how it does..
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09-18-2013, 04:17 PM
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it had 110 thou on intake,, and 90 thou on exhaust,,, Tick said it would be ok,,,,, I trust him...... I just got done driving it down the road,, man-o-man it feels so much diff in power,,, man I hopeing for some et's Friday night,, if it hooks...
09-18-2013, 11:03 PM
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I bet it feels like a whole new car!
Glad you like it.
On the PTV subject, while the "rule of thumb" is .100" on the exhaust or greater, I feel in Windmill's case, .090" will be fine on the exhaust with .110" on the intake.
Plenty safe for 7000rpm shifts and over revs. It should run some solid mid 6 second passes on motor and it will probably go faster than that when it really cools off.
Customer of ours a few years back got the "stock bottom end N/A cam only record" in a Mustang with a 6.20. Single plane intake, V.1 Polluter cam(V.2 would crush that E.T.),as cast 799 heads milled .020"-.025" I believe. This was on a 6.0 as well.
Glad you like it.
On the PTV subject, while the "rule of thumb" is .100" on the exhaust or greater, I feel in Windmill's case, .090" will be fine on the exhaust with .110" on the intake.
Plenty safe for 7000rpm shifts and over revs. It should run some solid mid 6 second passes on motor and it will probably go faster than that when it really cools off.
Customer of ours a few years back got the "stock bottom end N/A cam only record" in a Mustang with a 6.20. Single plane intake, V.1 Polluter cam(V.2 would crush that E.T.),as cast 799 heads milled .020"-.025" I believe. This was on a 6.0 as well.
09-19-2013, 09:37 AM
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Thanks martin,,, I just hope the converter stalls and flashes enough,,, I wont get to test and tune it but Friday is race day,, so Friday race it is,,, we going to start out on 6500 shifts,,, and see how it like it,,, then sunday will be test and tune at Huntsville so im going there to put it on e85, right now its on race gas... just got to figure what timing table to put in it,,,,
Also like to thanks for all the info from the other guys that's on this board, you all have been a big help,,,
Also like to thanks for all the info from the other guys that's on this board, you all have been a big help,,,
09-20-2013, 10:23 AM
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Thanks martin,,, I just hope the converter stalls and flashes enough,,, I wont get to test and tune it but Friday is race day,, so Friday race it is,,, we going to start out on 6500 shifts,,, and see how it like it,,, then sunday will be test and tune at Huntsville so im going there to put it on e85, right now its on race gas... just got to figure what timing table to put in it,,,,
Also like to thanks for all the info from the other guys that's on this board, you all have been a big help,,,
Also like to thanks for all the info from the other guys that's on this board, you all have been a big help,,,
That should be your flash rpm you'll see on launch or very close to it.
I would have to say that cam is going to want at least a 7000rpm shift if not 7200-7400.
It's not going to even peak until 6400-6600. I'd make one pass at 6500rpm and then the next pass turn it up to 6700-6800. Next pass try 7000rpm.
I bet it continues to pick up the higher you shift it.
I'd also start out with 18-20 degrees timing at idle up to 2500rpm. From 2500rpm to 5000rpm run 30 degrees. From 5000-6000rpm run 28 degrees. From 6000rpm to red line put 32 degrees in it.
Try that out first and see what it does. Keep adding timing from 2500-5000 in one degree increments along with adding timing from 6000rpm to red line in one degree increments.
You can experiment with more timing between 5000-6000, but for now at least I'd leave it alone. This is where peak torque will be made and it needs less timing during peak torque than in other areas of the curve.
09-20-2013, 02:16 PM
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Hey thanks martin,, im going to Huntsville sunday,, I know it will hook there,, ill make the program for it sunday from what u said,, and ill try that,,, tonight I got race 110 gas in it,,,, sunday im going to put my e85 carb on and try it,,, ill put the times up tonight,,,, thanks again,,,
oh I have a powerglide in it with 4.56 gears...
oh I have a powerglide in it with 4.56 gears...
09-20-2013, 11:14 PM
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Oh ok here what happen to night,,,, my car did run like 1.51 or 2's 60 ft and run like 7.03's and 4's at 97mph when the last time I ran with stock motor with vic jr ,,
oh k tonight would not 60 ft for crap was not spinning but felt like it was right before my shift point at 6500 and felt it right after the shift too,,, my timing was after 2000 rpm was 35 deg till 6500. it would have tonight1.51 and 52's 60fts but would run 6.62,6.63,6.64 all at 106 and 107 mph...
now the bad the converter did good but I could still only leave around 2300 before it push thu the lights,, but the good it would flash to 4700rpms... I was happy with the et's but not the 60fts... so next thing to do is take 2 inch spacer off then maybe try jetting up the carb some,, to get the 60 fts up some,,,,and also im running the same jets as I was when it was on the bone stock motor... oh I know I need wide band too....but these are the first passes changing the cam heads and converter..... but sunday im going to do some testing then,,, tonight it rain it out,,
oh k tonight would not 60 ft for crap was not spinning but felt like it was right before my shift point at 6500 and felt it right after the shift too,,, my timing was after 2000 rpm was 35 deg till 6500. it would have tonight1.51 and 52's 60fts but would run 6.62,6.63,6.64 all at 106 and 107 mph...
now the bad the converter did good but I could still only leave around 2300 before it push thu the lights,, but the good it would flash to 4700rpms... I was happy with the et's but not the 60fts... so next thing to do is take 2 inch spacer off then maybe try jetting up the carb some,, to get the 60 fts up some,,,,and also im running the same jets as I was when it was on the bone stock motor... oh I know I need wide band too....but these are the first passes changing the cam heads and converter..... but sunday im going to do some testing then,,, tonight it rain it out,,
09-20-2013, 11:28 PM
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Oh ok here what happen to night,,,, my car did run like 1.51 or 2's 60 ft and run like 7.03's and 4's at 97mph when the last time I ran with stock motor with vic jr ,,
oh k tonight would not 60 ft for crap was not spinning but felt like it was right before my shift point at 6500 and felt it right after the shift too,,, my timing was after 2000 rpm was 35 deg till 6500. it would have tonight1.51 and 52's 60fts but would run 6.62,6.63,6.64 all at 106 and 107 mph...
now the bad the converter did good but I could still only leave around 2300 before it push thu the lights,, but the good it would flash to 4700rpms... I was happy with the et's but not the 60fts... so next thing to do is take 2 inch spacer off then maybe try jetting up the carb some,, to get the 60 fts up some,,,,and also im running the same jets as I was when it was on the bone stock motor... oh I know I need wide band too....but these are the first passes changing the cam heads and converter..... but sunday im going to do some testing then,,, tonight it rain it out,,
oh k tonight would not 60 ft for crap was not spinning but felt like it was right before my shift point at 6500 and felt it right after the shift too,,, my timing was after 2000 rpm was 35 deg till 6500. it would have tonight1.51 and 52's 60fts but would run 6.62,6.63,6.64 all at 106 and 107 mph...
now the bad the converter did good but I could still only leave around 2300 before it push thu the lights,, but the good it would flash to 4700rpms... I was happy with the et's but not the 60fts... so next thing to do is take 2 inch spacer off then maybe try jetting up the carb some,, to get the 60 fts up some,,,,and also im running the same jets as I was when it was on the bone stock motor... oh I know I need wide band too....but these are the first passes changing the cam heads and converter..... but sunday im going to do some testing then,,, tonight it rain it out,,
Work on the suspension. Leave the spacer on it. Shift it at 7000rpm.
Try leaving off idle next time. See what it does. It has to be shifted higher though. Especially with the power glide.
It needs more fuel too.
Nice mph though! 10mph gain is very nice! As is the E.T.! 107mph is good for 6.30's easily.
With more fuel AND rpm it will pick up 1-2mph I guarantee it.
09-20-2013, 11:44 PM
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My watch guy was there he said it was not spinning,, but he thought it was about 250ft out right before the shift and after ,,
it feels really great,,, thanks for a nice cam martin.... we will work on stuff sunday ill put what timing in it what you wanted and move the shift up,, im sticking my e85 carb on and test with it...
it feels really great,,, thanks for a nice cam martin.... we will work on stuff sunday ill put what timing in it what you wanted and move the shift up,, im sticking my e85 carb on and test with it...
09-20-2013, 11:47 PM
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If it ran well with 35, leave 35 in it. Less timing with more fuel will make less power.
E85 likes fuel and timing. Give it what it wants. Read the plugs if you can as well.
Try flashing the stall off idle and see if it leaves harder. If not, we may have to have stall speed increased to 5400. PTC gives one free re-stall IIRC.
Not a problem at all, I'm glad you're happy with it and your first outing!
E85 likes fuel and timing. Give it what it wants. Read the plugs if you can as well.
Try flashing the stall off idle and see if it leaves harder. If not, we may have to have stall speed increased to 5400. PTC gives one free re-stall IIRC.
Not a problem at all, I'm glad you're happy with it and your first outing!