Non-Automotive Classifieds - Watercooled Supercomputer for sale
350ws6
05-04-2004, 10:42 AM
Hi, I recently built this computer and need to sell it for tuition for the fall. I built it to use for high end movie editing,intensive gaming,autoCAD and Pro-E programs and music editing. It is a much higher quality computer than anything you could buy from dell,hp etc. The watercooling system eliminates any overheating problems and it much quieter than a normal air cooled system. The entire case glows blue with UV light, which are mounted in the case. The coolant also glows(I have new pictures of this). It is a very nice alternative to a dull,loud, and plain white box computer and will outperform anything that costs twice as much.The DVD burner and CD burner was $450 alone. Asking $1100 or best offer shipping is included, comes with a real copy of Windows XP(have serial number), Office XP,and all the lastest drivers,DVD editing software etc.Email mhaskell@juno.com for pictures or AIM mdhaskell
Athlon XP3100+
ASUS A7V600
640mb DDR ram
ATI GEforce4 dual monitor video card
250gig hard drive
60gig hard drive
DVD burner/CD burner
Have other CD drives also
6 channel audio
Blue UV lexan case
Blue Uv powersupply
Swiftech watercooling with resivor
External Pump and Radiator(large 200mm round aluminum fan)
with 30+feet of tubing
(I had the radiator/fan outside my window for silence)
UV reactive coolant
UV LED and cold cathode lights
4 Blue LED UV 80mm fans all speed controlled by front panel
(fans can be slowed down for silence)
All intake fans have stainless steel filters to keep case clean
Copy and paste these
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Just Floor It
05-05-2004, 02:42 PM
:drool:
350ws6
05-05-2004, 02:57 PM
:drool:
I'll trade you for the car/cash.
Just Floor It
05-06-2004, 05:25 AM
Yeah right:jest:
350ws6
05-06-2004, 01:00 PM
Yeah right:jest:
;) computer and 500 bucks, my final offer. lol.
glitch77
05-07-2004, 10:00 PM
Hrrm...
I was expecting a bit more.
A true "supercomputer" is the fastest computer of its day, Athlons just wont cut it. ;)
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Four words for ya: See. Are. Aye. Why. ;)
bomax
05-09-2004, 01:37 PM
Hrrm...
I was expecting a bit more.
seriously, an AthlonXP 3100 and 640mb "DDR" ram? :argh:
cyphur
05-16-2004, 03:59 PM
where'd you get that case from?
NataSS Inc
05-18-2004, 04:29 PM
seriously, an AthlonXP 3100 and 640mb "DDR" ram? :argh:
Is that good or bad?
'01PEWTERTA
05-25-2004, 10:51 PM
Let's just say, not very good. Minimum these days is a gig of memory and to get the DDR speed, the sticks need to be identical in size. So the actual speed of the memory reverts back to a single data rate.
I'm not gonna bash this dude but the price seems pretty high for this set-up.
350ws6
06-02-2004, 07:51 AM
Let's just say, not very good. Minimum these days is a gig of memory and to get the DDR speed, the sticks need to be identical in size. So the actual speed of the memory reverts back to a single data rate.
I'm not gonna bash this dude but the price seems pretty high for this set-up.
Um it's a custom watercooled system. Not a air-cooled Dell. As for memory I currently have OCZ EL Dual Channel gold 1gb*2 ,but thats not going with the system. Do you have any watercooling or overclocking experience?
350ws6
06-02-2004, 07:53 AM
seriously, an AthlonXP 3100 and 640mb "DDR" ram? :argh:
You forget its overclocked by a ghz or more at all times. lol
'01PEWTERTA
06-02-2004, 08:07 PM
Um it's a custom watercooled system. Not a air-cooled Dell. As for memory I currently have OCZ EL Dual Channel gold 1gb*2 ,but thats not going with the system. Do you have any watercooling or overclocking experience?
I wasn't originally talking about the "cooling system" but......
I was talking about the memory and the speed not being able to reach dual channel capability. 640 mb these days is a joke and as cheap as memory is these days you should know that.
As far as my overclocking capability, I have plenty. But these days who needs it ? We are talking 3 Ghz procs, not a 300mhz celeron A oced to 466 mhz.
Watercooling is a waste of cash. Period. Besides it's CUSTOM, not a EXOS:
http://www.koolance.com/products/product.html?code=EXT-A04&category_id=2
Why would anyone want a custom (prone to leaks....say "bye-bye" PC :barf: ) "water cooled" set-up and not a unit that is manufactured under a QC environment beats the hell out of me :judge:
Besides, if it's a "SUPER COMPUTER" ( :bs: )why doesn't it have a "SUPER VIDEO CARD" like the ATI 9800XT and not a 2 yr old video card ?
Also, why don't you put the good memory in it ?
I'm done here but this is like the debate: which is best "Intel or AMD" ?
350ws6
06-03-2004, 12:07 PM
I wasn't originally talking about the "cooling system" but......
I was talking about the memory and the speed not being able to reach dual channel capability. 640 mb these days is a joke and as cheap as memory is these days you should know that.
As far as my overclocking capability, I have plenty. But these days who needs it ? We are talking 3 Ghz procs, not a 300mhz celeron A oced to 466 mhz.
Watercooling is a waste of cash. Period. Besides it's CUSTOM, not a EXOS:
http://www.koolance.com/products/product.html?code=EXT-A04&category_id=2
Why would anyone want a custom (prone to leaks....say "bye-bye" PC :barf: ) "water cooled" set-up and not a unit that is manufactured under a QC environment beats the hell out of me :judge:
Besides, if it's a "SUPER COMPUTER" ( :bs: )why doesn't it have a "SUPER VIDEO CARD" like the ATI 9800XT and not a 2 yr old video card ?
Also, why don't you put the good memory in it ?
I'm done here but this is like the debate: which is best "Intel or AMD" ?
Listen, no offense but you should stick to LS1's because its obvious you lack the knowledge in the overclocking/thermo field to really debate this.
You said you think my price seems high, for an air cooled system i would agree, however since the WATER cooling in included the price is very reasonable.
Secondly if you read my posts I've stated that it has 1gb*2 for 2GB total OCZ gold ram, reguarded as the best DDR on the market.I am selling it with the 640mb jsut as a spare, as the OCZ is too valuable to sell, same as selling a car with stock rims, instead of fiske's
The video card is no where near two years old, lol.
BUT the biggest hint that you really don't have any computer experience, other than what you've read about online, is the fact that you recommend a EXOS!! HAHA are you kidding? An EXOS is the ricer wing and fart can of the overclocking world, it is a complete POS with a mini-pump and tiny 8mm tubing. The tubing is also prone to cracking,aka leaks (which I never have experienced, and i have been watercooling since high school lol).
Honestly would you put a 3 story wing on your car with spinners and jap decals? Because that is the car equivalent of the EXOS system. http://boston-motorsports.com/forums/images/smilies/laugh.gif
DarkFormula
06-04-2004, 10:25 AM
ATI GEforce4 dual monitor video card
Out of curiosity, what video card is it? GeForce4 is like like telling someone you're selling a Honda Civic, but withholding the trim level.
Thanks.
350ws6
06-04-2004, 12:29 PM
Out of curiosity, what video card is it? GeForce4 is like like telling someone you're selling a Honda Civic, but withholding the trim level.
Thanks.
PNY nVIDIA GeForce4 FX5200
128MB DDR
128-bit
8X AGP
'01PEWTERTA
06-04-2004, 03:45 PM
Listen, no offense but you should stick to LS1's because its obvious you lack the knowledge in the overclocking/thermo field to really debate this.
You said you think my price seems high, for an air cooled system i would agree, however since the WATER cooling in included the price is very reasonable.
Secondly if you read my posts I've stated that it has 1gb*2 for 2GB total OCZ gold ram, reguarded as the best DDR on the market.I am selling it with the 640mb jsut as a spare, as the OCZ is too valuable to sell, same as selling a car with stock rims, instead of fiske's
The video card is no where near two years old, lol.
BUT the biggest hint that you really don't have any computer experience, other than what you've read about online, is the fact that you recommend a EXOS!! HAHA are you kidding? An EXOS is the ricer wing and fart can of the overclocking world, it is a complete POS with a mini-pump and tiny 8mm tubing. The tubing is also prone to cracking,aka leaks (which I never have experienced, and i have been watercooling since high school lol).
Honestly would you put a 3 story wing on your car with spinners and jap decals? Because that is the car equivalent of the EXOS system. http://boston-motorsports.com/forums/images/smilies/laugh.gif
offence taken! I wasn't trying to trash your system in my first post but........
I stand corrected on the age of the video card, I mis-read the description so my apologies on that. It is not a 2 yr. old card (but Nvidia wish it was) and it's a piece of junk for gaming; I know it and you know it (intensive gaming ??? :huh: .
Here the latest price from newegg.com but you prolly buy your parts from COMP USA or at the flea market so you wouldn't know where to check:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=property&DEPA=1
I have no way of proving it but I have built over 200 PC's since 1994 and I'm sure you don't care.
There is no more market for the custom builds. Dell and Gateway have seen to that.
You need to put down what you have been smokin' and proceed to the nearest sanitation dept. cause you are full of :bs: . This is no SUPER COMPUTER by no means. Maybe in YOUR terms but do your home work. If you call it a SUPER COMPUTER becuase it's water cooled then you don't have a clue. For all we know, you picked this thing up at the Flea Market or a Ham convention for $200.
Hell Dude, you don't even have a simple RAID lvl 1 going in this system! Do you know what a RAID is or even stands for ? I doubt it (hint: it's not the stuff that kills bugs)
You have 2 drives and they are prolly a master/slave set-up and one of them is obsolete so that means that they ARE both running at the slowest speed since they are on the same channel.
You state that you have 6 channel audio ? Duh..............it's prolly built into the mobo ( thaz motherboard) so now it takes clock cycles to process the audio stream............so much for the "SUPER COMPUTER".
Oh, I forgot about the KEWL lights. I bet that they make it run 10-15% faster ?..............***News flash*** light produces heat.............good thing that you
got that thar water cooled setup that sits OUTSIDE so it STAYS quiet.
What's a guy to do if he CAN'T sit it outside ? Listen to that noise all the time I guess or he could put it in the kitchen and run the hoses threw the attic'
I 'spose that sense we all have water cooled automobiles that it makes them all "SUPER CARS"?
To the bat cave Robin.......................we have no time to spare....
LMFAO !!
Most "SUPER COMPUTERs" will have more than 1 proc. but then again I don't know what I'm talking about.....
I will give you one thing though, you picked a decent mobo but since I don't obviously have a clue in what I am talking about I guess that is junk as well............
Good luck selling this "SUPER COMPUTER"..............
http://www.anandtech.com/
http://www.tomshardware.com/
http://www.firingsquad.com/
http://www.sysopt.com/
350ws6
06-04-2004, 05:06 PM
offence taken! I wasn't trying to trash your system in my first post but........
I stand corrected on the age of the video card, I mis-read the description so my apologies on that. It is not a 2 yr. old card (but Nvidia wish it was) and it's a piece of junk for gaming; I know it and you know it (intensive gaming ??? :huh: .
Here the latest price from newegg.com but you prolly buy your parts from COMP USA or at the flea market so you wouldn't know where to check:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=property&DEPA=1
I have no way of proving it but I have built over 200 PC's since 1994 and I'm sure you don't care.
There is no more market for the custom builds. Dell and Gateway have seen to that.
You need to put down what you have been smokin' and proceed to the nearest sanitation dept. cause you are full of :bs: . This is no SUPER COMPUTER by no means. Maybe in YOUR terms but do your home work. If you call it a SUPER COMPUTER becuase it's water cooled then you don't have a clue. For all we know, you picked this thing up at the Flea Market or a Ham convention for $200.
Hell Dude, you don't even have a simple RAID lvl 1 going in this system! Do you know what a RAID is or even stands for ? I doubt it (hint: it's not the stuff that kills bugs)
You have 2 drives and they are prolly a master/slave set-up and one of them is obsolete so that means that they ARE both running at the slowest speed since they are on the same channel.
You state that you have 6 channel audio ? Duh..............it's prolly built into the mobo ( thaz motherboard) so now it takes clock cycles to process the audio stream............so much for the "SUPER COMPUTER".
Oh, I forgot about the KEWL lights. I bet that they make it run 10-15% faster ?..............***News flash*** light produces heat.............good thing that you
got that thar water cooled setup that sits OUTSIDE so it STAYS quiet.
What's a guy to do if he CAN'T sit it outside ? Listen to that noise all the time I guess or he could put it in the kitchen and run the hoses threw the attic'
I 'spose that sense we all have water cooled automobiles that it makes them all "SUPER CARS"?
To the bat cave Robin.......................we have no time to spare....
LMFAO !!
Most "SUPER COMPUTERs" will have more than 1 proc. but then again I don't know what I'm talking about.....
I will give you one thing though, you picked a decent mobo but since I don't obviously have a clue in what I am talking about I guess that is junk as well............
Good luck selling this "SUPER COMPUTER"..............
http://www.anandtech.com/
http://www.tomshardware.com/
http://www.firingsquad.com/
http://www.sysopt.com/
:LOL: you really are digging yourself deeper. I like how you throw terms like RAID (which any computer noob knows) in order to sound impressive.
SMP? Are you kidding? Please name OS's or programs that can take advantage of this? Photoshop and what else? You could count them on one hand. Also take a look at current SMP boards, see any that are overclockable? Find one with a bios changable FSB,multi, DDR voltage,core voltage,divider etc. Good luck buddy haha. Oh and SMP means Symmetric Multiprocessing btw lol. Quick question, what would perform better, 120*10 or 100*12.....exactly.
This is a PC not a fileserver. RAID is useless when the newest drives have seek times in the 4.4 range, and 2gb of DDR.
But I digress, I wont go through every point of your post because when you throw around big technical terms like "RAID" and use a EXOS for cooling (even tho you actually can't handle anything outside of outdated air-cooling LOL) you are obviously quite the computer expert.http://boston-motorsports.com/forums/images/smilies/laugh.gifhttp://boston-motorsports.com/forums/images/smilies/laugh.gifhttp://boston-motorsports.com/forums/images/smilies/laugh.gif
'01PEWTERTA
06-04-2004, 08:41 PM
Dude, I'm done here. I (we) have better things to do.
No since in continuing until you mature alot more. Stay in school, get you some knowledge and become something meaningful in your life.
Good luck.
Peace Out.....
:usa:
distortion_69
06-04-2004, 11:23 PM
I came in here looking for a supercomputer for sale. Where is it at?
glitch77
06-05-2004, 01:05 AM
350WS6, I am going to have to side with '01PEWTERTA on this....
1. The geforcefx 5200 is the bottom of the bucket FX card. (I have a FX5600 and it can barely keep up...)
2. 640mb of ram is just kreepy... why not two 512 sticks? Or two 1024 sticks? Or one 1024 stick?
3. A spankin fast proc. is nice to brag about, but when your other components cant keep up, it doesnt matter the speed one bit. My 1.4ghz P3 with 512k L2 has to wait on my fx5600 and my ram to catch up, me getting a faster proc. would not lead to better in-game performance.
4. Did I read: "ATI GEforce4 dual monitor video card" correctly? (I copied and pasted that, btw)
5. RAID is not useless on a gaming PC, quite the contrary. A nice RAID 0+1 setup on two 250gb drives would be very nice for many things, audio/video come to mind.
6. "6-channel sound" gets you nowhere if it is onboard sound. (Tell me if its not) My Sound Blaster Audigy2 Platinum spounds very nice ;-). Dolby 6.1 with digital out.
7. Did I read: "ATI GEforce4 dual monitor video card" correctly?
In conclusion: Its a cool PC. To be 'ultimate gaming machine' it would need some work.
Listen, no offense but you should stick to LS1's because its obvious you lack the knowledge in the overclocking/thermo field to really debate this. No offense 350WS6, but the WS6 doesnt have a 350 in it, its a 346. You should stick to supercomputing. ;)
glitch77
06-05-2004, 01:14 AM
I myself am waiting for the Geforce6 - 6800 Ultra. Just a bit longer. :)
Graphics Core http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gif256-bit http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gifMemory Interface http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gif256-bit http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gifMemory Bandwidth http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gif35.2 GB/sec. http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gifFill Rate http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gif6.4 billion texels/sec. http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gifVertices per Second http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gif600 Million http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gifMemory Data Rate http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gif1100 MHz http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gifPixels per Clock (peak) http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gif16 http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gifTextures per Pixel* http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gif16 http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gifRAMDACs http://www.nvidia.com/images/shim.gif400 MHz
350ws6
06-05-2004, 06:05 AM
350WS6, I am going to have to side with '01PEWTERTA on this....
1. The geforcefx 5200 is the bottom of the bucket FX card. (I have a FX5600 and it can barely keep up...)
2. 640mb of ram is just kreepy... why not two 512 sticks? Or two 1024 sticks? Or one 1024 stick?
3. A spankin fast proc. is nice to brag about, but when your other components cant keep up, it doesnt matter the speed one bit. My 1.4ghz P3 with 512k L2 has to wait on my fx5600 and my ram to catch up, me getting a faster proc. would not lead to better in-game performance.
4. Did I read: "ATI GEforce4 dual monitor video card" correctly? (I copied and pasted that, btw)
5. RAID is not useless on a gaming PC, quite the contrary. A nice RAID 0+1 setup on two 250gb drives would be very nice for many things, audio/video come to mind.
6. "6-channel sound" gets you nowhere if it is onboard sound. (Tell me if its not) My Sound Blaster Audigy2 Platinum spounds very nice ;-). Dolby 6.1 with digital out.
7. Did I read: "ATI GEforce4 dual monitor video card" correctly?
In conclusion: Its a cool PC. To be 'ultimate gaming machine' it would need some work.
No offense 350WS6, but the WS6 doesnt have a 350 in it, its a 346. You should stick to supercomputing. ;)
Did you read the thread? It currently has 2*1gb sticks of OCZ gold.Next teh ATi was a typo, explain several times already.
As for Raid do me a favor...Look up seek times for a raptor HDD and then for a RAID 0 or 1 set-up, yeah they are that close.
Finally you really should read before you type things so you don't look foolish, If you did you know that I have a 1992 WS-6 with a L98/T-56, which is in fact 350 cubic inches.
Perhaps I should edit the title to say "Supercooled computer for sale"
ArticGMC
06-05-2004, 07:21 AM
350ws6
I'm also going agree with everyone that posted. You advertise a "supercomputer" and are selling just a computer with a fancy case and a water cooling system. It DOES NOt matter what is in the machine right now. The only thing that matters is WHAT YOU ARE SELLING. Who gives a **** what ram is in there right now and you are going to take out to sell.
The raptor hdd are a marketing scheme. If you look at HDD comparisons the Western Digital Special Edition drives are just slightly slower than the raptor drives. Not enough for the extra money. Hard drives are only as fast as the ide controller on the board. The core logic for the ide bus on all boards has not changed even with the intro of serial ata drives. It still goes through the same bus and speed. Raid is the best for performance. Who ever told you different is wrong.
I think that you need to rephrase the super computer to just say "water cooled computer"
glitch77
06-05-2004, 11:27 AM
Perhaps I should edit the title to say "Supercooled computer for sale"Probably so.
Did you read the thread? It currently has 2*1gb sticks of OCZ gold.I'll sell you my car for $400! Ill be removing the motor, body panels, driveline, and wheels first though.
As for Raid do me a favor...Look up seek times for a raptor HDD and then for a RAID 0 or 1 set-up, yeah they are that close.It does redundancy-writing as well? RAID 0+1 is mirroring+striping, best of speed and reliability.
No one is attacking you here, if you posted "For sale: Hypercharged WS6 for sale!" and it was a stock v6 Firebird, youd get the same results.
2000Z28M6
06-17-2004, 02:26 PM
This so amusing......poor guy for trying to sell a cool looking PC to a bunch of computer geeked out F body owners......
Zero_FactiX
07-16-2004, 08:50 AM
I'm going to start off by saying that i'm not bashing you or your computer experience you sound knowledgeable but you just don't have a "Super Computer" What you have is a mid-class computer with a cool case and some pretty's. And as far as the raptor HDD yes it is fast but get a set of SATA Raptors then put them in raid and see how fast they are. Like Glitch77 said everything needs to be fast not just part of the system. No point in having an 8 lane highway when the street dept went cheap on 2 miles and only put in 2 lanes. You know what I Mean?
Zo6Killer
07-16-2004, 09:28 AM
Damn, it's pretty obvious that no one on this board is going to buy this. Leave the poor guy alone, computer geniuses!
Unforgiven1
07-26-2004, 10:30 PM
I'm kind of wondering why everyone felt the need to come in here and screw this guy over. It's almost the equivalent to cock-blocking. Shit, if you disagree with the supercomputer thing I don't see any need in posting. It's not like the guy is selling crap. Sounds like a decent pooter. I say if someone were to come in uninformed, as people do everyday at the many various retail stores, and think this computer is a deal and buy it, that's their problem. What it comes down to is: Is/was the computer mis-labled/titled? Most more than likely. Does stuff like this happen everyday? Yes. So why make this case special?
cgworth
07-27-2004, 11:42 AM
I'm kind of wondering why everyone felt the need to come in here and screw this guy over. It's almost the equivalent to cock-blocking. Shit, if you disagree with the supercomputer thing I don't see any need in posting. It's not like the guy is selling crap. Sounds like a decent pooter. I say if someone were to come in uninformed, as people do everyday at the many various retail stores, and think this computer is a deal and buy it, that's their problem. What it comes down to is: Is/was the computer mis-labled/titled? Most more than likely. Does stuff like this happen everyday? Yes. So why make this case special?
It looks like testosterone kicked in on this one :bash: :nutkick: