Super Vic., Edelbrock Pro Flow XT, Holley High or Mid Rise Intake For Max Effort 346
11-21-2013, 08:17 AM
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Super Vic., Edelbrock Pro Flow XT, Holley High or Mid Rise Intake For Max Effort 346 I'm about 90% sure I'm going to switch up my current setup over the winter, and the cam and intake are going to be the focus of the build. My question is, which of these intakes would be better for a max effort 346, with the focus RPM range being between 4000 and 7500 RPM's. Is there going to be a big difference between these intakes on where the RPM range will be and will one shine over the other in the lower RPM range? Whichever intake I go with, I'll have the cam custom ground to suite that given intake and I'll be reusing my current heads, but they will be milled further to bump compression to around 12.5:1. Also, which throttle body would be good? If I go the Super Vic. route, I will be going with a 4150 style throttle body, but have no clue on what throttle body would be good with the other two intakes. I appreciate the assistance guys.
11-22-2013, 12:54 PM
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I have always liked Edelbrock more than Holley. I haven't run either of them on an LS engine, but from 20 years owning small block Fords, Edelbrock always had a better product than Holley. Take my opinion for what it's worth (not much?) but at least you got a reply to your thread. 
I actually built the motor mounts for my Mustang so I can get the Pro Flo XT p/n 7140 under the stock hood. I'm not concerned with low RPM performance, my car is light and it has alot of rear gear. However, if you go search through Edelbrocks forums, you can find posts from Edelbrocks customer service reps where they say the Pro Flo when used correctly will make more top end power and more mid range than a Victor Jr single plane on an LS.
I actually built the motor mounts for my Mustang so I can get the Pro Flo XT p/n 7140 under the stock hood. I'm not concerned with low RPM performance, my car is light and it has alot of rear gear. However, if you go search through Edelbrocks forums, you can find posts from Edelbrocks customer service reps where they say the Pro Flo when used correctly will make more top end power and more mid range than a Victor Jr single plane on an LS.
11-22-2013, 02:32 PM
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I have always liked Edelbrock more than Holley. I haven't run either of them on an LS engine, but from 20 years owning small block Fords, Edelbrock always had a better product than Holley. Take my opinion for what it's worth (not much?) but at least you got a reply to your thread.
I actually built the motor mounts for my Mustang so I can get the Pro Flo XT p/n 7140 under the stock hood. I'm not concerned with low RPM performance, my car is light and it has alot of rear gear. However, if you go search through Edelbrocks forums, you can find posts from Edelbrocks customer service reps where they say the Pro Flo when used correctly will make more top end power and more mid range than a Victor Jr single plane on an LS.
I actually built the motor mounts for my Mustang so I can get the Pro Flo XT p/n 7140 under the stock hood. I'm not concerned with low RPM performance, my car is light and it has alot of rear gear. However, if you go search through Edelbrocks forums, you can find posts from Edelbrocks customer service reps where they say the Pro Flo when used correctly will make more top end power and more mid range than a Victor Jr single plane on an LS.
11-23-2013, 07:15 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Good information there. I think the lower RPM power can be taken care of in the valve events of the cam; just wasn't sure if one of those intakes really shined in that aspect. I know all three of those intakes are going to be killer in the mid to upper RPM range, as that's what they are intended for. I'm kind of torn between the Super Vic. and Edelbrock Pro Flow XT. From my research, hardly anyone has run them on a stock cube LS1. Hood clearance could be an issue too, but I plan on getting an aftermarket VFN hood, so I think all three intakes will clear it.
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11-24-2013, 07:24 PM
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In for results on this. Why arent single plane style intakes more popular? Theyre all cheaper than a fast, and should make a bit more power too. From what I've read with a proper spec'd cam they dont really lose any under the curve power? Granted clearance can be an issue, but still?
11-24-2013, 07:37 PM
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With the Super Victor and the 4150 TB you will be cutting your cowl no matter what kind of hood you used. That is probably the reason you do not see that setup very often. On a all out engine the Super Vic and a 4150 gets my vote it will support RPMs above 7000 with ease.
11-24-2013, 09:15 PM
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Bought a used Edelbrock 4150 on here. Got it at a sweet price so I went for it. Most likely will eventually convert to a 4500 but that's much later on. Go Super Vic and don't look back, honestly glad I made the move to do it.
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In for results on this. Why arent single plane style intakes more popular? Theyre all cheaper than a fast, and should make a bit more power too. From what I've read with a proper spec'd cam they dont really lose any under the curve power? Granted clearance can be an issue, but still?
11-24-2013, 09:21 PM
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My question here is if its a streetcar and you run a super victor and 4150tb wouldn't you have to run a filter on it to keep dirt out, and doesn't that juss kill the power? Correct me if I'm wrong bc I think the super victor and 4150 setup would be nice except this aspect would turn me away.
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My question here is if its a streetcar and you run a super victor and 4150tb wouldn't you have to run a filter on it to keep dirt out, and doesn't that juss kill the power? Correct me if I'm wrong bc I think the super victor and 4150 setup would be nice except this aspect would turn me away.
11-28-2013, 10:46 AM
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i switch from a ported 92/92 setup to a vic jr and custom cam for that intake and didnt notice any power loss in the lower rpms and even if i did, it quickly made up for it in the mid and higher rpms and plus some! i also kept my wipers but i wish i just got rid of it all bc i dont drive mines in the rain neither
11-28-2013, 12:45 PM
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Scorpion 4150. I've heard nothing but GREATNESS about them, the size, the guarantee to not stick... Availability is a problem though...
For the intake I'd run a Vic Jr
CHECK OUT THE SPECS DIRECTLY FROM SCORPION:
-Fail Safe Design – Offset throttle shafts provide a fail-safe function so throttles CANNOT stick in the open position
-Maximum Flow – 2000 cfm
-Fits all 4150 applications, as well as standard open plenum manifolds
-Standard 5” air filter flange
-Only throttle body that fits between all fuel rails, overall width is 6.9”
-Compact Low Profile Design – The lowest profile on the market, overall part height is 1.4”
-No External Springs
-Extra Vacuum Ports – Two 1/16” npt on front, one 1/8” npt on front, two 1/8” npt on rear
-Sealed Throttle Shaft Bearings
-Throttle Position Sensor – American-made!
-Idle Air Control Motor – American-made!
-Smooth yet Strong - Performs like a dream on the street, but like an animal on the track
-Light Weight Aircraft Aluminum
-Polished & Anodized – For additional protection, wear characteristics and corrosion resistance
For the intake I'd run a Vic Jr
CHECK OUT THE SPECS DIRECTLY FROM SCORPION:
-Fail Safe Design – Offset throttle shafts provide a fail-safe function so throttles CANNOT stick in the open position
-Maximum Flow – 2000 cfm
-Fits all 4150 applications, as well as standard open plenum manifolds
-Standard 5” air filter flange
-Only throttle body that fits between all fuel rails, overall width is 6.9”
-Compact Low Profile Design – The lowest profile on the market, overall part height is 1.4”
-No External Springs
-Extra Vacuum Ports – Two 1/16” npt on front, one 1/8” npt on front, two 1/8” npt on rear
-Sealed Throttle Shaft Bearings
-Throttle Position Sensor – American-made!
-Idle Air Control Motor – American-made!
-Smooth yet Strong - Performs like a dream on the street, but like an animal on the track
-Light Weight Aircraft Aluminum
-Polished & Anodized – For additional protection, wear characteristics and corrosion resistance
11-28-2013, 12:55 PM
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I'm about 90% sure I'm going to switch up my current setup over the winter, and the cam and intake are going to be the focus of the build. My question is, which of these intakes would be better for a max effort 346, with the focus RPM range being between 4000 and 7500 RPM's. Is there going to be a big difference between these intakes on where the RPM range will be and will one shine over the other in the lower RPM range? Whichever intake I go with, I'll have the cam custom ground to suite that given intake and I'll be reusing my current heads, but they will be milled further to bump compression to around 12.5:1. Also, which throttle body would be good? If I go the Super Vic. route, I will be going with a 4150 style throttle body, but have no clue on what throttle body would be good with the other two intakes. I appreciate the assistance guys.
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