dead civic

iTrader: (3)

So I'm really inteerested in headers.

and the Pacesetters price is one that I find to be within my limits

so I'm watching out for these two items



so is there a reason I should not go with this option and go with one of the other more expensive makes?

Also if I guy these, will they bolt on to the sock catalytic converters I have or will i have to have those moved around a little for them to work.?

Highly appreciate any ones response.

thanks.

NIKDSC5

iTrader: (10)

Mainly because I don't believe pacesetter makes heaters. Ok, moving on....because they are only 1 3/4" and for a few hundred more you can get the OBX which are kooks clones.

dead civic

iTrader: (3)

oh. nice. never heard of OBX. but I'll ad them to my list. them kooks are the **** tho.

raven154

iTrader: (14)

Might also add the OBX are 1 7\8" I believe pacesetter are 1 3\4" and Kooks came in both. You know the other usual differences mild steel vs stainless and all that jazz

BudRacing

iTrader: (3)

Pacesetters are more rust-prone and their connectors aren't as DIY as OBX or Kooks which leads to more $$ for install.

The quality of the OBX are a lot nicer than I expected.

johnny2343

Alright since we are already on topic are the extension harnesses needed for oxygen sensors on ls2???

Aaron Thomas

iTrader: (1)

Extensions are a hit or miss. I was barely able to get mine to work without extensions. OBX BTW. If you do go with OBX you probably will have to make a small dent in one of the tubes next to the steering shaft. I can't chime in for the Kook's 1 7/8", but I think the 1 3/4" clear no problem. There has been a OBX knock off on Ebay called maximizer, but I have not had any experience with them, but maybe someone else has.

brack86svo

Maximizer's are OBX. They are just re-branded. I bought the Maximizer headers and they had the exact same part number stickers as the OBX headers. I had to make a slight dent in mine for the steering shaft, even with Revshift motor mounts.

2007V

iTrader: (2)

Get obx over coated pacesetters. Otherwise get uncoated pacesetters cheap, coat them yourself. You need to expand the off road connectors a small amount to fit or cut them down and weld them. I would expand them, I think you can get an expander cheap from summit. Then they bolt up to the stock exhaust with no cutting at all.

raven154

iTrader: (14)

I have 1 7/8" kooks and I had to dent the tubes by the steering shaft also.

jmargo

iTrader: (10)

Will Kooks cats bolt onto the OBX/Maximizer headers ?

raven154

iTrader: (14)

Should. I think there a couple people that have.

odthetruth

iTrader: (4)

... why the hate? Pacesetters do well on FBodies. We aren't exactly top shelf in the V1.

I've had pacesetters for over a year with 0 complaints. When i did cat delete along with it, extensions all went in perfectly with the headers. 0 issues on setup, and still no exhaust leaks at those sites, and its CLAMPED, not even welded at that site where they all meet. No dents needed for pacesetters, as they are 1 3/4.

1 7/8 sizing is strong for FI, but for NA setup, a 1 3/4 isn't a bad move at all. The collector is the only real big difference, but you'll have no issue with pacesetters. I highly doubt ANYONE can feel the difference between a 1 7/8 and 1 3/4... But your pocket can, easily. lol

Any header you buy that you want to keep STOCK cats on... will require welding. The stock cats are bent a certain way that doesn't make it easy to work with.

LS6BlackCTS-V

iTrader: (3)

Had coated long tube Pacesetters on my V1, they work great and had no leaks or rust after 3 years. Really woke that LS6 up!

54inches

iTrader: (4)

Love my Pacesetters and NO fitment issues.

I bought the coated and then I coated the insides, so I should not have any issues with rust either.

You really do not need 1 7/8" headers unless you are going to get u there in the hp range....

fengstang

iTrader: (2)

they are good for the price and if you on a budget.

Forcfed93

iTrader: (10)

I've had my pacesetters on for a few months now. Install was a breeze (relatively speaking) no fitment issues at all.

If you have the cash, certainly a stainless option or 1 7/8" is marginally better, but if you're on a budget pacesetters are definitely a solid option.

stratass

I have the car now and they look brand new.

DrSpeed

iTrader: (4)

This!

For the amount of money you have into the Pacesetters (I bought mine from Amazon's scratch and dent sale, only there were zero scratches and zero dents).

Here's is how they showed up at the house:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1130733...eat=directlink

They've been on the car for over 2 years, and no issues with welds or leaks.

NIKDSC5

iTrader: (10)

My logic, 1 7/8" > 1 3/4" and what are pacesetters selling for? 425? Plus 75$ in the off-road extension pipes? So 500$ approx? When you an get into OBX for 650$. They are better quality and look. I have UMI MM and my dent in the pipe is tiny, I actually ran it without a dent for 3,000 or so miles with no problem except feeling the vibration now and again. I only dented it in fear that the steering shaft would eventually wear a hole in the header tube. So for 150$ more, the OBX are a no brainer to me. For stock motor, H/C/I, or FI the larger header will perform better. And I'm not one to do mods twice.