Catmaigne

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Are there no real dedicated retainer plates? That is, are the LS1 disc brake backing plates (the ones with the e-brake drums built in) used as 9" axle retainers instead? I noticed that my 9" housing and axle package didn't include any sort of retainer plate.

I'll also have to look up the order that everything must be pressed on. My 9" has big tapered bearing ends instead of the ball bearing type.

HioSSilver

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Yes your backing plates are used as the retainer. I cut mine so they do not have to be pressed on with the bearing. Mine can now slide over the axle to be removed or installed.

Bob@BruteSpeed

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http://shop.brutespeed.com/Moser-12-...structions.htm

The installation instructions that I have at the link here may help you out. Bob

Catmaigne

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I looked at those instructions but they don't mention anything about the seals. I know I don't use the small inner axle seals because my tapered bearings need to be lubricated by gear oil. So it goes backing plate, timken set 20 seal, and then bearing with oring on wheel side. Can someone verify that this is right? And this spacer came in the set but I don't think it's used.
I'll attach pics.

Catmaigne

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Press it on like this I'm guessing?



I'm not using this spacer, right?

Bob@BruteSpeed

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Note: The 1/8" shims are for using LT1 brakes

How thick is that spacer, it looks quite large? Bob

Catmaigne

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The 1/8 shims were never included because my rear was optioned for ls1 brakes I guess? Nothing in the boxes except two timken set 20 bearings/seals/spacers. What I'm confused about is where the seals go, what"press ring" means, and what to do with the spacers.

If I don't use the seal that was included in the set between the brakes and bearings then all of the gear oil will leak out.

The spacer has the same ID as the bearing so I'm guessing it would be the press ring? But it looks like it would keep the bearing from getting lubricated.

Catmaigne

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This is what it looks like when the bearing is pressed on and the seal is pushed up against it. I'm guessing when the axles go into the housing the backing plate will push the seal in a little bit and ensure it doesn't leak. The plate only contacts the outer edge of the seal.



My best guess would be that the spacers are actually the "press rings" in the diagram that was posted. So I just press these on after the bearings? I thought they were going to interfere with the lubrication of the bearings but it looks fine actually.



Looks like the giant press rings won't interfere with the housing. They have a good bit of clearance.



Does all of this look right?

LS1-IROC

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You got it. The only thing you did wrong was to not use the press ring to press on the bearing..lol Also, be very careful when installing the axle..it's really easy to pinch that lip seal if you catch it on the edge of the retainer plate. It will leak like a **** if it pinches and rips.

Catmaigne

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Lolololol, I should have known that the press ring is for pressing. A lapse in judgment I guess and the diagram had me a little confused. I went ahead and pressed everything together. Damn, those rings go on tight!

Rob WS6

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The press ring is what holds your axles in place, its not just a ring you use to press on the bearing. Generally, you aren't supposed to install the bearings and the press rings at the same time. You can use the old press ring you cut off the axle as a "spacer" to go between your press dies and the new bearing to press on the new bearing, and again to press on the press ring. It is near impossible to press them both on at the same time and is usually not recommended. Just make sure everything is in the correct order before pressing.

Catmaigne

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I ended up pressing the bearing and ring on separately on one axle and both together on the other. I guess if I bent something I'll find out soon. It's only a 12 ton press... I don't feel like I could have damaged anything. It was tough but I wasn't using a cheater bar or anything.

Stringfellow

should sticky this!

Uneverknow

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I just pressed mine last week you have it correct! But I used some non Harding perma gasket on the edge of my gasket.