russel pro flex hoses or not
04-26-2014, 07:43 PM
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All rubber lines are porous to some extent and fuel is a pretty small vapor so it gets through easily.
Oil will even eventually weep a bit.
The teflon lines acts more like a hardline and seals up the porosity.
Oil will even eventually weep a bit.
The teflon lines acts more like a hardline and seals up the porosity.
04-27-2014, 05:34 PM
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I used to work for a major aftermarket company. One time I went back to the engineering department and saw that they had dozens of little glass jars sitting there with small sections of hose inside liquid. I asked what that was all about and was told that they were testing the effects of various fuels on different hose (their own and their competitors). After seeing those jars and what gasoline eventually does to that hose, I will never run it on anything besides maybe a race car that gets regular inspections. The short of it is that in not much time all hose was starting to deteriorate pretty badly. Race gas was actually not as toxic as different street blends, mostly because of the ethanol content. That's why I prefer the teflon hose. The odor is another area where the teflon hose is superior.
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04-28-2014, 07:11 AM
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I used to work for a major aftermarket company. One time I went back to the engineering department and saw that they had dozens of little glass jars sitting there with small sections of hose inside liquid. I asked what that was all about and was told that they were testing the effects of various fuels on different hose (their own and their competitors). After seeing those jars and what gasoline eventually does to that hose, I will never run it on anything besides maybe a race car that gets regular inspections. The short of it is that in not much time all hose was starting to deteriorate pretty badly. Race gas was actually not as toxic as different street blends, mostly because of the ethanol content. That's why I prefer the teflon hose. The odor is another area where the teflon hose is superior.
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Again, all boils down to correct and appropriate use of any hoses.
04-28-2014, 09:26 AM
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^Stevie hit it right on the head. Many hoses are compatible for contact with fuel and not compatible for submerging the hose for prolonged periods of time in fuel. Teflon is great as are other PTFE blended polymers (Teflon-synthetic blend) but typically much more expensive. For E85, the higher the PTFE blend content, the greater "compatibility" with E85 due to the ethanol content just in case it was a question. Not to say that other synthetic blends which do not note PTFE as a material has not worked for some.
04-28-2014, 06:03 PM
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Ive already answered.
Unless the lines go inside the cabin, there is no specific requirement to use PTFE unless the type of fuel you are using demands it.
But in short, use as per manufacturers guidelines.
But as you dont mention overall routing, and dont mention the type of fuel, etc etc etc...I cant give any other answer
Unless the lines go inside the cabin, there is no specific requirement to use PTFE unless the type of fuel you are using demands it.
But in short, use as per manufacturers guidelines.
But as you dont mention overall routing, and dont mention the type of fuel, etc etc etc...I cant give any other answer
04-28-2014, 11:08 PM
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Ive already answered.
Unless the lines go inside the cabin, there is no specific requirement to use PTFE unless the type of fuel you are using demands it.
But in short, use as per manufacturers guidelines.
But as you dont mention overall routing, and dont mention the type of fuel, etc etc etc...I cant give any other answer
Unless the lines go inside the cabin, there is no specific requirement to use PTFE unless the type of fuel you are using demands it.
But in short, use as per manufacturers guidelines.
But as you dont mention overall routing, and dont mention the type of fuel, etc etc etc...I cant give any other answer
04-29-2014, 01:43 PM
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If you want a trouble free system then PTFE it is for E85. My buddy worked on this research you can find in the link below.
http://iqlearningsystems.com/ethanol...patibility.pdf
If I may also suggest, use a Stainless Steel filter for E85. Most of the guys up in the NE with E85 coming out of a particular shop used 100 micron and a secondary <40 micron filter. E85 is not as strictly regulated regarding contaminants and such so the E85 blends we have seen in NJ, NY, and CT can be filthy at times. Not to say some locals we know havent gotten away with using other types of filters but some have shown deterioration of non-SS filters. The combo has not resulted in any issues to date. Some of the guys have been running E85 for 3-4 years without a hiccup. Again, this is what I have personally seen regarding many imports and E85.
http://iqlearningsystems.com/ethanol...patibility.pdf
If I may also suggest, use a Stainless Steel filter for E85. Most of the guys up in the NE with E85 coming out of a particular shop used 100 micron and a secondary <40 micron filter. E85 is not as strictly regulated regarding contaminants and such so the E85 blends we have seen in NJ, NY, and CT can be filthy at times. Not to say some locals we know havent gotten away with using other types of filters but some have shown deterioration of non-SS filters. The combo has not resulted in any issues to date. Some of the guys have been running E85 for 3-4 years without a hiccup. Again, this is what I have personally seen regarding many imports and E85.