Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Changing out Rod Bolts???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-18-2004, 11:50 AM
  #1  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Toonz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Changing out Rod Bolts???

Can anyone offer some advice?

My formula is getting a new cam, heads, springs so I thought now would be a good time to change the rod bolts too.

I am doing all the work myself as far as installation, removal, etc. How hard is this? I have access to a lift, or a cherry picker if the engine needs to come out. Right now the intake, vavle gaskets, heads, and headers are off the car. I still need to pull my cam as well. Will I be better off pulling the engine out to do the cam and rod bolts, or just leave it in and work around everything?

Anyone have a write up on how to change them? TIA!

Rob
Old 05-18-2004, 11:58 AM
  #2  
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
 
foff667's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Clermont, FL
Posts: 7,986
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

im not sure if theres any way to do it without pulling the motor.
Old 05-18-2004, 02:59 PM
  #3  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (9)
 
critter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Goshen, IN
Posts: 1,001
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Toonz
Can anyone offer some advice?

My formula is getting a new cam, heads, springs so I thought now would be a good time to change the rod bolts too.

I am doing all the work myself as far as installation, removal, etc. How hard is this? I have access to a lift, or a cherry picker if the engine needs to come out. Right now the intake, vavle gaskets, heads, and headers are off the car. I still need to pull my cam as well. Will I be better off pulling the engine out to do the cam and rod bolts, or just leave it in and work around everything?

Anyone have a write up on how to change them? TIA!

Rob
I've been there. The pan will not come off with the stock K-member in the car. You can't lift the engine high enough before the bellhousing/tranny hit the body. I simply hung the engine from the STB and dropped the K-member since I was changing to a BMR anyway. You can get the pan off and on with the BMR by lifting the engine off the mounts. Otherwise pull the engine.
Old 05-18-2004, 07:08 PM
  #4  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Toonz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

That's what I was needing to know... I guess it's coming out tomorrow or thursday. Thanks guys.
Old 05-18-2004, 07:42 PM
  #5  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
glen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Wrinkle City, USA
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Toonz
Can anyone offer some advice?

My formula is getting a new cam, heads, springs so I thought now would be a good time to change the rod bolts too.

I am doing all the work myself as far as installation, removal, etc. How hard is this? I have access to a lift, or a cherry picker if the engine needs to come out. Right now the intake, vavle gaskets, heads, and headers are off the car. I still need to pull my cam as well. Will I be better off pulling the engine out to do the cam and rod bolts, or just leave it in and work around everything?

Anyone have a write up on how to change them? TIA!

Rob

Changing rod bolts in an engine isn't the way to go nor have I heard anyone doing it that way. Generally, when changing rod bolts you resize the big end because the bolt doesn't just slide out, you have to knock it out.
Old 05-18-2004, 09:03 PM
  #6  
TECH Addict
 
Racehead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: LaConner WA
Posts: 2,662
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by glen
Changing rod bolts in an engine isn't the way to go nor have I heard anyone doing it that way. Generally, when changing rod bolts you resize the big end because the bolt doesn't just slide out, you have to knock it out.
You're confused just as I was before someone straightened me out. An LS1 rod bolt simply slides thru the cap and threads into the rod, thus changing them out for better quality bolts is very easy and quick
Old 05-18-2004, 09:03 PM
  #7  
TECH Addict
 
66ImpalaLT1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: St Louis, MO
Posts: 2,551
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by glen
Changing rod bolts in an engine isn't the way to go nor have I heard anyone doing it that way. Generally, when changing rod bolts you resize the big end because the bolt doesn't just slide out, you have to knock it out.
Ever seen an ls1 rod bolt?
Old 05-18-2004, 09:46 PM
  #8  
TECH Fanatic
 
slyws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: "Tr"Asheville
Posts: 1,937
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have a couple you can take a look at, gotta wait till this weekend until I pull the pieces of them out of the bottom of the oil pan

-Sly
Old 05-18-2004, 10:02 PM
  #9  
TECH Addict
 
felton316's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 2,593
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by glen
Changing rod bolts in an engine isn't the way to go nor have I heard anyone doing it that way. Generally, when changing rod bolts you resize the big end because the bolt doesn't just slide out, you have to knock it out.

This is not grandpa's 350.... The LS1's use regular style bolts that thread in, not the old school rod bolts that have been used for the past 50 years.


As to changing them, just remove one at a time. The ARP's will require you to retorque them 3 times to get proper bolt strech. If you do it with the engine in the car, wear saftey glasses. I learned the hard way that oil is not meant to go into your eye. One small drop burns like a bitch!!
Old 05-18-2004, 10:42 PM
  #10  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Toonz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

According to the 1998 Service Manual (Volume 3, p. 6-297) you can remove the oil pan (with a stock k member) without taking the engine out. Does anyone have any experience doing this?




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:49 PM.