Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Eagle 383 Stroker Kit

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-18-2004, 10:44 PM
  #1  
TECH Junkie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
TAQuickness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 3,250
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Eagle 383 Stroker Kit

I have an opportunity to pick up the following parts for just under $2700.

Eagle 4340 4.000" Stroke - 434640006100
Eagle 3-D H Beam Rods 6.200" - CRS6200B3D
JE Flat top Pistons # 194881 - 3.905" Bore Only
11.0:1 with 66cc Heads)
JE file fit Rings set - 1.5 1.5 3mm Rings
Clevite 77 Rod Bearings CB663H
Clevite 77 Main Bearings MS2199H

Should I jump on it?
Old 05-18-2004, 10:59 PM
  #2  
TECH Regular
 
99WS6LS1T/A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Somewhere in Cajun Country
Posts: 482
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Pimp_Nas_T
I have an opportunity to pick up the following parts for just under $2700.

Eagle 4340 4.000" Stroke - 434640006100
Eagle 3-D H Beam Rods 6.200" - CRS6200B3D
JE Flat top Pistons # 194881 - 3.905" Bore Only
11.0:1 with 66cc Heads)
JE file fit Rings set - 1.5 1.5 3mm Rings
Clevite 77 Rod Bearings CB663H
Clevite 77 Main Bearings MS2199H

Should I jump on it?
I've been told the Eagle kit is junk. I was advised by a sponser of this board of this.
Old 05-18-2004, 11:18 PM
  #3  
FormerVendor
 
racer7088's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Houston, Tx.
Posts: 3,065
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts

Thumbs up

Originally Posted by 99WS6LS1T/A
I've been told the Eagle kit is junk. I was advised by a sponser of this board of this.
We are selling the same stuff for 2499.00 right now with any JE piston and 2399.00 with Diamonds.

The Eagle stuff is fine, The first cranks were not able to balance under the bobweight they shipped with but that has been corrected now. If you're in Houston come on by.

Whoever told you that the Eagle stuff is junk is trying to sell you more expensive stuff like Lunati. The Lunati stuff is very nice but probably a little overkill for most people. I haven't seen many stock cranks even break even with some really crazy abuse.

http://www.horsepowerengineering.com/houston.html
Old 05-18-2004, 11:22 PM
  #4  
TECH Fanatic
 
kumar75150's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Dallas
Posts: 1,112
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

for comparison, my stroker kit with Lunati crank and Lunati rods was about $3500.

Eagle should be fine but after spending thousands for the new motor, I would personally spend a lil more for the Lunati.
Old 05-19-2004, 12:16 AM
  #5  
jrp
SN95 Director
iTrader: (16)
 
jrp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Valencia, Ca
Posts: 10,755
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Pimp_Nas_T
I have an opportunity to pick up the following parts for just under $2700.

Eagle 4340 4.000" Stroke - 434640006100
Eagle 3-D H Beam Rods 6.200" - CRS6200B3D
JE Flat top Pistons # 194881 - 3.905" Bore Only
11.0:1 with 66cc Heads)
JE file fit Rings set - 1.5 1.5 3mm Rings
Clevite 77 Rod Bearings CB663H
Clevite 77 Main Bearings MS2199H

Should I jump on it?
is that the kit thats listed on ebay?
Old 05-19-2004, 02:07 AM
  #6  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
strokedls1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Venice, Ca
Posts: 1,829
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

You could pick up the same parts from summit for less dough. JE pistons + rings 800, crank 1k, rods 500, bearings 125.
Old 05-19-2004, 05:45 AM
  #7  
Suspended Sponsor Account
 
ForceFed HP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pewee Valley, KY
Posts: 430
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Eagle has worked out the early issues on the 383 kits. we can do them for a lot less than $2700.00
Old 05-19-2004, 06:37 AM
  #8  
TECH Junkie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
TAQuickness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 3,250
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

jrp - yes

I'll be in touch with a few of you this afternoon.
Old 05-19-2004, 09:32 AM
  #9  
TECH Enthusiast
 
FASTONE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Foley, Alabama-southern Alabama
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The machineshop that did my motor said that the previous Eagle products were high quality,I know they had some problems with the first LS1 cranks but I believe they took care of the problems.Also the local speedshop guy told me they had sold serveral Eagle LS1 cranks to another machine shop that builds LS1s and he said they worked fine!He also said that the Eagle cranks were hard to drill to balance meaning made of good metal.I haven't seen anyone mention it but Crower is building cranks for the LS1 now,I'm sure that would be a good crank!I'm building a 408 ironblock and may use the Eagle crank like Hp said theres been some killer engines built with the stock crank, even heavy NO use,that put tons of stress on internals.As a side note theres a guy a local dragstrip that runs 5.4's in 1/8 mile at122mph in a M ustang and he's running a cast crank!!
Old 05-19-2004, 01:25 PM
  #10  
Teching In
iTrader: (7)
 
jhd68cam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Deer Park,Tx
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Check out the new price on HPE's 408 short block.
John
Old 05-19-2004, 01:48 PM
  #11  
TECH Senior Member
 
CHRISPY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Eagle stuff is great for most NA apps we are looking at. Even some moderate spray motors will live a long time with Eagle parts.

Now 9000rpm and 1100HP? I would consider that iffy

I would buy from a sponsor here.
Old 05-19-2004, 02:40 PM
  #12  
TECH Junkie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
TAQuickness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 3,250
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Thanks for all the resonses. Something is ate up bad in my motor right now... It uses a quart of oil every 100 miles, smokes like a chimney, and is just embarassing to drive. I hadn't planned on rebuilding the motor this soon, but the smoke is getting to me. I've been in touch with a few shops and I'm still debating on whether or not I want to rebuild the motor myself or pay someone to do it. Since I have to do the rebuild anyway, I'd like to go ***** out, but, the more I research, the more my wallet begs for death. That being said, my original plans of making a +500rwhp daily driver are fading away with the sunset. Looks like I'm going to be settling for 400-450
Old 05-19-2004, 02:51 PM
  #13  
TECH Regular
 
greekss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Bay Area/ UCI-VDC norte
Posts: 488
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

im intertested in a kit like this but am a newbie at this stroker stuff......... if i wer to buy this kit what would i be looking at for install so lets say 2600 for the stroker kit..... another 1000 for install ? Would i need heads ? I already have a B1 cam ? Thanks guys in interested, o btw its an 2002 SS
Old 05-19-2004, 03:02 PM
  #14  
TECH Junkie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
TAQuickness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 3,250
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

This leads to my next question... If I proceed with rebuilding the bottom end as a 383, I won't be able to do the heads/cam for another 6 months or so. Has anyone else been through this situation? How is the car with a 383 bottom end with a stock top end? I would imagine it's like ****, but I'd like to know what to expect.
Old 05-19-2004, 04:48 PM
  #15  
TECH Fanatic
 
kumar75150's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Dallas
Posts: 1,112
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Do a forged 346 instead IMO. And get some decent heads and a cam.
Old 05-19-2004, 04:48 PM
  #16  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
badls1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Cali
Posts: 334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

just change the rings on this set-up with heads and cam you will need for the 383. they just buy a bare used block and install the rotaing assembly. diffrence is the block cost but then again you could always re sell your short block as new rebuilt.
Old 05-19-2004, 04:57 PM
  #17  
TECH Junkie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
TAQuickness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 3,250
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by badls1
just change the rings on this set-up with heads and cam you will need for the 383. they just buy a bare used block and install the rotaing assembly. diffrence is the block cost but then again you could always re sell your short block as new rebuilt.

That's a good point. I was thinking since I have to tear down the motor anyway to replace the rings, might as well beef it up too. Time (not enough of it) is the biggest obstacle I have with this project. I'm only home a few months a year

Old 05-19-2004, 04:59 PM
  #18  
Banned
iTrader: (23)
 
JZ'sTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Ft. Myers Fl
Posts: 3,126
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I thing if your "new goals" are to achieve 400-450 RWHP that you are spending way more money then you need to.
Tear down the motor, you probally just have a ring problem, then change the rings. Buy a stage 2.5 Heads and cam package and with the right bolton's (Not mac headers, which aren't bad but aren't as good as LT's) you should be 430+ easily in a M6. Total cost of a sweet H/C package will be around 3 G's and should include gaskets, pushrods, valves, springs, retainers, etc.
Rings are like 125-150. You say you can do the work yourself, so there you go.
You will then need a tune, some new headers, good exhaust amd all the other bolt on's. I believe your goals can be done and still be very streetable.
Old 05-20-2004, 12:03 AM
  #19  
TECH Regular
 
greekss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Bay Area/ UCI-VDC norte
Posts: 488
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

so can i just slap in the 383 kit into my short block as it stands now ?
Old 05-20-2004, 08:16 AM
  #20  
TECH Senior Member
 
CHRISPY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

At least do the cam now it is 400 bucks

Then you can pull and swap the heads later. Also go with ARP headstuds so you dont need to screw around replacing those either later. I think depending on cam size 460RWHP/440RWTQ is possible on stock heads with a 383



Quick Reply: Eagle 383 Stroker Kit



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:25 AM.