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Old 07-26-2014, 10:56 AM
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Default Converter won't stay locked while cruising

I have a 4l80e behind an LQ4 in a Foxbody mustang. Trans and converter (FTI 3500 stall) are both new. When cruising around on the freeway the converter will only lock up about 25% of the time. It will lock for about 30 seconds to a minute and then unlock for a few minutes. No big changes to throttle or anything, just normal cruising down the road. It doesn't seem to be an issue in lower gears when driving around time. Unless I just don't notice as much. Is there something in the tune possibly or a mechanical issue somewhere? I have HPtuners if there is something I can change.
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speed, RPM, throttle position, all go into keeping it locked or unlocked
you may have to tune it-I have only used the Compushift Controllers, and was able to dial in whatever it needed to work
not likely a trans or converter issue, Greg builds a great converter
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a lot of the 4l60 with bigger stall torque convertors have this issue. Mine did as well. its a 4000k stall.

The lights stall throws off the rotational mass of the motor which causes "misfires" but not CEL. Its a tuning issue most likely, as stated above.
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I'm pretty sure I got it fixed. I desensitized the misfire monitors a little and so far so good. Thanks guys.
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Yep misfires. Weird cause some people have the issues, other never have it.
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Originally Posted by BOOSTAT4500
I'm pretty sure I got it fixed. I desensitized the misfire monitors a little and so far so good. Thanks guys.
I have the same issue with my ss3600. How do you desensitize the misfire monitors? I have hp tuners also.
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I have the same issue with my ss3600. How do you desensitize the misfire monitors? I have hp tuners also.

engine diagnostics > misfire tab > misfire detection
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Originally Posted by dreww
engine diagnostics > misfire tab > misfire detection
Thanks, I will give it a try. Mine will generally drive about 10-30 miles from cold start at roughly 50-70mph. It will stay locked until I give it like 10%-30% throttle and it unlocks and act like its slipping. I kick it down a gear and it will lock again then no slip at 10% or so throttle and pull strong in od actually lugging the motor if I give it enough to accelerate but not downshift. All will be fine then maybe a couple of miles more it might do it again. I ahd the car dyno tuned with stock converter. I installed the ss3600 and it drove fine for about 5000-6000 miles until I noticed it. I am getting a random misfire code now. When it unlocks I can clear it using hp tuners going down the road and it instantly locks again. Hopefully adjusting the misfire table will fix it.
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it will work. I never got a misfire code on mine, and never noticed these "misfires" it was detecting, but the PCM will pick them up regardless. Just desensitize the misfire settings (I believe I set it to allow for more misfires).

I only adjusted the low and maybe mid RPM tables, the high RPMS I didn't touch.
My theory is as the motor spins faster, it helps "center" everything like swinging a bag full of stuff fast enough that it doesn't fall out. Hence no issues at higher RPMs
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Originally Posted by dreww
it will work. I never got a misfire code on mine, and never noticed these "misfires" it was detecting, but the PCM will pick them up regardless. Just desensitize the misfire settings (I believe I set it to allow for more misfires).

I only adjusted the low and maybe mid RPM tables, the high RPMS I didn't touch.
My theory is as the motor spins faster, it helps "center" everything like swinging a bag full of stuff fast enough that it doesn't fall out. Hence no issues at higher RPMs
Are the adjustments self expalnatory as to waht way they need to be adjusted or??? What way should I adjust it? Up in values or down? As you can tell,I havent looked at the tables yet.
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I don't remember, I don't have my laptop with me.

but some cells only allow a couple hundred "misfires" before it affects driveability. Other cells have like over 1,000 counts before it causes issues.

I think I just upped the numbers of the "low" cells up to like 1,000 hits before it affect driveability.



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