GM's "Gen 3" camshaft
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GM's "Gen 3" camshaft
Anyone try this cam or have any opinions about it?
DESCRIPTION: "GEN 3" SHOWROOM STOCK CAMSHAFT
This hydraulic roller camshaft for RPO LS1 or LS6 was designed for showroom stock road racing. It requires the use of 2002 and later LS6 hollow stem intake valves P/N 12565311, hollow stem - sodium filled exhaust valves P/N 12565312, and valve springs P/N 125565313. It features .570" intake and exhaust lift, 251 degree exhaust duration at .050" and 239 degree intake duration at .050". Technical Notes: Center line of intake lobe means M.O.P. or maximum open point, determined across nose of lobe. Lobe flank is not symmetrical - for best torque set intake to TDC@105 degree and for best poer set intake to TDC@106.5 degree. Cam timing @ 0.050" tappet lift (timed @106 degrees intake to TDC) Exhaust opens @ 51 degrees and closes @ 20 degrees with duration at 251. Intake opens @ 12 degrees and closes @ 47 degrees with duration at 239.
DESCRIPTION: "GEN 3" SHOWROOM STOCK CAMSHAFT
This hydraulic roller camshaft for RPO LS1 or LS6 was designed for showroom stock road racing. It requires the use of 2002 and later LS6 hollow stem intake valves P/N 12565311, hollow stem - sodium filled exhaust valves P/N 12565312, and valve springs P/N 125565313. It features .570" intake and exhaust lift, 251 degree exhaust duration at .050" and 239 degree intake duration at .050". Technical Notes: Center line of intake lobe means M.O.P. or maximum open point, determined across nose of lobe. Lobe flank is not symmetrical - for best torque set intake to TDC@105 degree and for best poer set intake to TDC@106.5 degree. Cam timing @ 0.050" tappet lift (timed @106 degrees intake to TDC) Exhaust opens @ 51 degrees and closes @ 20 degrees with duration at 251. Intake opens @ 12 degrees and closes @ 47 degrees with duration at 239.
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#1 thing I would say is (what Josh said) do not use LS6 springs UNLESS you have LS6 valves and even then I would say just go on up to the Comp 918s. Floating and bending valves is not fun
With that said the cam will be a PITA for most people. Its going to probubly need to idle at ~1K RPM (though it will sound BAD!!!!!!!!!!! ) and in truth probubly won't make the kind of HP that other cams (that idle and drive better) do.
#1 thing I would say is (what Josh said) do not use LS6 springs UNLESS you have LS6 valves and even then I would say just go on up to the Comp 918s. Floating and bending valves is not fun
With that said the cam will be a PITA for most people. Its going to probubly need to idle at ~1K RPM (though it will sound BAD!!!!!!!!!!! ) and in truth probubly won't make the kind of HP that other cams (that idle and drive better) do.
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So this cam would be pretty nasty to drive around town?
I can't make out the LSA with those specs...anyone know?
I think I've decided to go with the G5X-3 on a 114 just because I'm hearing so much good stuff about it and maybe a set of the new AFR heads. I was just curious about the gen 3 cam because I never heard of it until today.
I can't make out the LSA with those specs...anyone know?
I think I've decided to go with the G5X-3 on a 114 just because I'm hearing so much good stuff about it and maybe a set of the new AFR heads. I was just curious about the gen 3 cam because I never heard of it until today.
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Originally Posted by jub jub
So this cam would be pretty nasty to drive around town?
I can't make out the LSA with those specs...anyone know?
I think I've decided to go with the G5X-3 on a 114 just because I'm hearing so much good stuff about it and maybe a set of the new AFR heads. I was just curious about the gen 3 cam because I never heard of it until today.
I can't make out the LSA with those specs...anyone know?
I think I've decided to go with the G5X-3 on a 114 just because I'm hearing so much good stuff about it and maybe a set of the new AFR heads. I was just curious about the gen 3 cam because I never heard of it until today.
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FWIW: I remember Lou from LG posted that they made 470+rwhp on vettes with a good set of ls6 heads. However, I also remember him saying it needed to be revved well past 7k.. You can do a search to find the exact numbers. Needless to say the g5x3, the cam i'm running, or several other cams would be better for a maximum effort street car. I plan on flycutting and using AFR heads too..
Good Luck,
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Originally Posted by 93Polo
Doesn't Bink have the white Z06 and went to Corvetteforum Cruise In? If it is the car sounds
Lamar, didn't I meet you at the Posse' picnic at High Falls? You had the black FRC and you let me listen to it. I believe that was you. I'm the guy from Warner Robins. Anyway, I'm still looking for a cam but I can't make up my mind. Since the addition of the headers and intake though the car seems to be running strong and I'm not setting any codes so all is well with the world. I do like the what I've been reading about the G5X-3 and the AFR 205 heads. I bet that combo will keep those pesky Cobras at bay...well some of them anyway!
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Doesn't Bink have the white Z06 and went to Corvetteforum Cruise In? If it is the car sounds
I learned alot with this setup and I have a ball driving/playing with it - no regrets.
BUT it is a "Vintage" roadracing cam in todays world. I would look towards the LGM or Futral cams ...if I was looking now (I'd sit tight until the new 3 valve heads are released).
Lou's cams have consistently produced. HumpinSS and 93Polo both have very nice Alan Futral cams.FWIW.
Here's the dyno of the Grand Am camhttp://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...-ipage_2_0.jpg
Oh....and it does sound sweet above 4000 RPM - BIG GRIN!!
joel