Street Racing & Kill Stories - mach vs. slp camero...

hey, i think you should check this out... there is a vid to it as well... i think this is going to be another heated battle..
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112796

this is going to get realllllll good...bc this makes for very cocky mach 1 drivers

tyler

p.s. i posted this in here... bc i figured yall would get a kick out of this

v6 camaro

this is what the guy wrote in one of his reply's....

just for your information it is a SLP slomaro and it is alot slower than my car if you listen closley that car does not loose any traction unlike my car i basically have no 2nd gear, our runs went up to 110 mph and that boat of a thing still couldnt catch me, the sad thing is hes got a 350 for a motor and he cant even catch my tiny 281, the reason why i was being ****y is because i knew that was another win in my books, and just to let you know i ran and 12.4@111 at the tracks and thats nothing close to what that slomaro will do

and for the rest of the guys thanks for all the props and i will keep posting more vids


i mean seriously

:cry: :cry:
my mach is WAY better than a slowmaro. i can spend $3000 modding it... and it is faster than a stock camaro

:cry: :cry:
my mach is WAY better than a slowmaro. i can spend $3000 modding it... and it is faster than a stock camaro
I couldn't see the vid. cause im at work but what all mods does that Mach1 have done to it... I doubt that it is 3K worth...

I couldn't see the vid. cause im at work but what all mods does that Mach1 have done to it... I doubt that it is 3K worth...

vortech s/c, 410's, full exhaust, stripped interior, 150 shot

vortech s/c, 410's, full exhaust, stripped interior, 150 shot
He needed that to take down a stock SLP camaro :jest: Calling an SS an "SLP camaro" is like calling a cobra a "SVT mustang" :gay:

ill smoke you in my svt f150

I'm building a SVT crown vic senator series to take down yer truck.

vortech s/c, 410's, full exhaust, stripped interior, 150 shot

So he had more mods than he let on in the video? :confused: He had a supercharger when he raced the Camaro or not?

and I've got a four banger that will smoke all of you. How about not bringing up what your building, or what you have that will smoke someone else...

hey, i think you should check this out... there is a vid to it as well... i think this is going to be another heated battle..
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112796

this is going to get realllllll good...bc this makes for very cocky mach 1 drivers

tyler

p.s. i posted this in here... bc i figured yall would get a kick out of this

Can you say CAMARO*... not camero... :bang:

vortech s/c, 410's, full exhaust, stripped interior, 150 shot

If he was running FI and N2O and thats all he did to that camaro I feel really sorry for him. He should have put em down alot faster considering they are pretty equal stock for stock.

and I've got a four banger that will smoke all of you. How about not bringing up what your building, or what you have that will smoke someone else...
Make me kissasskid :shakinass

Make me kissasskid :shakinass

wow... just wow... i was making the point that no one gives a crap what you've got if its not pertinent to the thread topic. I've got to give you props though, I mean come on, how many brain cells does it take to twist someones name into a joke like that? :eyes:

vortech s/c, 410's, full exhaust, stripped interior, 150 shot
I think someone is full of sh!t... What did it say in the Video of what modds he has... If he had a charger and 150 he would be in the 10's.... not a 12.4 Mine almost did that stock with Sticky tires.... I was in the 12.7's

I think someone is full of sh!t... What did it say in the Video of what modds he has... If he had a charger and 150 he would be in the 10's.... not a 12.4 Mine almost did that stock with Sticky tires.... I was in the 12.7's

I gotta agree. The only notable mod on the camaro I remember were slp headers. The mach had a few things none of which were nitrous or blower. The mach was just slightly more heavily modded and did put quite an ass beating on that camaro. Just not an ass beating that would justify saying it is blown or spraying.

vortech s/c, 410's, full exhaust, stripped interior, 150 shot

Are you serious ? :eyes:

I gotta agree. The only notable mod on the camaro I remember were slp headers. The mach had a few things none of which were nitrous or blower. The mach was just slightly more heavily modded and did put quite an ass beating on that camaro. Just not an ass beating that would justify saying it is blown or spraying.

:metoo:

:metoo:

There is no way for us to know just how poorly the SS was driven either. The mach driver was talking some crap though. Too bad he's not in Austin we have plenty of slow fbodies. :jest:

Why brag that ur modded Mach beat a STOCK camaro. 12.4---Vs---13.4
I thought it was Stock vs stock until he said his car ran 12.4@111. A stock LS1 car isnt to far from that. Cutout, slicks, lid, headers, gears,decent driver.

Then he brought up "my car is a little 281 and his car is a 350" argument. Even the other board member told him to shut up about that. :guns:

Why brag that ur modded Mach beat a STOCK camaro. 12.4---Vs---13.4
I thought it was Stock vs stock until he said his car ran 12.4@111. A stock LS1 car isnt to far from that. Cutout, slicks, lid, headers, gears,decent driver.

Then he brought up "my car is a little 281 and his car is a 350" argument. Even the other board member told him to shut up about that. :guns:

The camaro had SLP heads and gears.

There is no way for us to know just how poorly the SS was driven either. The mach driver was talking some crap though. Too bad he's not in Austin we have plenty of slow fbodies. :jest:

DAMN where are you guys in the other post about this stuff? About time you showed up. Yeah too bad... but he'd beat me! lol, I am stock right now.

The guy in the Mach was a much better driver. To me, the mods on the cars were pretty even so it should have been a better race.
The Mach was not spraying and was not s/c'd.
The races where the Z falls immediately to the back is similar to a race I had with a '99 Z28 with 4.10s and exhaust....with a bad driver.
Not to say that the Z28 in the vid should have won but he could have been a better driver. I would have hated to see this one from a dig...

Now that I'm home I can watch the Vid.. That Mach1 doesn't have that many mods done to it... All he has is an o/r X catback 4.10s and Diablo chip... I have about the same modes as he does minuse the chip which I have seen from other peoples dynos doesn't help very much at all.. One fo my friends has one and it gave him 4hp up top but gave him about 10 on the lower end of the hp curve.. They mainly use it to calibrate the gears.. The SS had Headers, 3.73's, Ypipe, catback.. and LS1Edit if you ask me I'll say they were moded about the same mod for mod.. Just the better car, or driver won the race.. I'm sure the SS put down more rwhp then the Mach1, but it still lost.. Who ever said it had a blower and nos on it is FULL OF SH!T!!!!!! That is just about the same way my mach pulls and SS's with simular mods..

Now that I'm home I can watch the Vid.. That Mach1 doesn't have that many mods done to it... All he has is an o/r X catback 4.10s and Diablo chip... I have about the same modes as he does minuse the chip which I have seen from other peoples dynos doesn't help very much at all.. One fo my friends has one and it gave him 4hp up top but gave him about 10 on the lower end of the hp curve.. They mainly use it to calibrate the gears.. The SS had Headers, 3.73's, Ypipe, catback.. and LS1Edit if you ask me I'll say they were moded about the same mod for mod.. Just the better car, or driver won the race.. I'm sure the SS put down my rwhp then the Mach1, but it still lost.. Who ever said it had a blower and nos on it is FULL OF SH!T!!!!!! That is just about the same way my mach pulls and SS's with simular mods..

I didn't think it had the SC, i didn't hear a whine and he would have put those mods on there, unless he won with those mods and didn't put them on the vid because he was embarrassed about it, heck i dunno. SS's are heavy, I wouldn't have one, and they sit funny too, but maybe it just takes some getting used to :chug:

The camaro had SLP heads and gears.

ur right :bomb:

ur right :bomb:

no biggy :drive: its ALL good :chug:

Its nice though that some of those guys on thier boards tell him to be quiet and stop calling them "slowmaros" or whatever he calls them. He did win, but seems way to cocky for someone running a 12.4.

Also I'm not sure exactly what your running, but I ran into a Mach 1 at Bandimere speedway here in Colorado. It was stock, and so am I, I beat it by half a second. I'll look and see if I can find the time slips to prove it. I don't think SS's sit funny, nor are "heavy," especially in the world of the muscle car. Not trying to flame any one though.

Headers, catback, programming and programming are not stock on the SS. Both were similarly modded.

The Mach 1 owner needs to get his head out of his ass though and learn to win with dignity. Stop acting like a cocklick. That video was poorly done, with the :gay:est music I have heard on a streetracing video.

LMAO...someone says the SS was top of the line (IE the fastest) bwahahaha

He fails to mention that the SS is probably an A4 since it has 3.73s. Judging from the vid the Mach was in a nice RPM range for a take off, which is probably not optimum for an auto Camaro. Its the SS drivers fault for not seeing this. From experience, A4 cars don't usually do very well from a roll until they get a better converter.

Slap a nice converter on the SS and see what it'll do. Makes an auto car a whole new animal.


It is nice to see that the other Ford guys are trying to give him a wakeup call.
I did to a Mach what that Mach did on the vid w/nothing but a lid and crappy Ravin muffler on stock pipes as my only mods. I definately don't expect things to be that easy next time I get to run a Mach.

My neighbor has a supercharged Acura RSX, went to the track last week and ran a 14.3. The car in the other lane was a 98+ SS and lost to a 14.3 sec Acura.The vid is on the acura website.

Never underestimate the skill of a bad driver :jest: With bad driving all things are possible.

I thought the Mach guy was slinging around alot of trash talk but then again some of his own forum members agree that he was too.

SS's are heavy, I wouldn't have one, and they sit funny too, but maybe it just takes some getting used to :chug:

yeah, because the difference between your WS6 and an SS that make the SS so much heavier are... um... and.. er... and perhaps a whole buch of... uhhh help me out here?

yeah, because the difference between your WS6 and an SS that make the SS so much heavier are... um... and.. er... and perhaps a whole buch of... uhhh help me out here?

Last I checked the SS actually weighed less than the ws6. The Z28 is often times the lightest of all of the fbods. I really doubt they sit funny being that they are build on the same frame as all f-bods...

Its nice though that some of those guys on thier boards tell him to be quiet and stop calling them "slowmaros" or whatever he calls them. He did win, but seems way to cocky for someone running a 12.4.


haha, yeah, that was me and another guy on the board... but yeah, he was way to cocky to be only running a 12.4. I dont know where in the hell some ppl thought he had nitrous or even a blower.... but oh well, i just thought it was appropriate to post up in here, bc now you have another cocky furd driver


sorry ab the typo in the thread title, but after i posted, i discovered you can not edit the title

:judge: stop all the fucken crying it's illegal street racing not a legal event so what if the mach1 was modded you are not going to get a fair run in street racing like it or not. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Also I'm not sure exactly what your running, but I ran into a Mach 1 at Bandimere speedway here in Colorado. It was stock, and so am I, I beat it by half a second. I'll look and see if I can find the time slips to prove it. I don't think SS's sit funny, nor are "heavy," especially in the world of the muscle car. Not trying to flame any one though.

Well what I mean by sit funny is when you sit in the passenger seat it just feels like you are sitting on a lawn chair. I just wasn't comfortable. I know you aren't trying to flame, its just your preference vs mine. :drive:

Iv'e never really been given the actual facts about our weights, but I thought the SS and the WS6 were about the same in weight. I could be wrong though, maybe that was me and a Z28... cant remember.

haha, yeah, that was me and another guy on the board... but yeah, he was way to cocky to be only running a 12.4. I dont know where in the hell some ppl thought he had nitrous or even a blower.... but oh well, i just thought it was appropriate to post up in here, bc now you have another cocky furd driver


sorry ab the typo in the thread title, but after i posted, i discovered you can not edit the title


Its all good, I thought you spelled it like that on purpous. Sorry if I was bein kinda bitchy. Wow you can't edit the title? Dang they should change that. On other boards you can but oh well.

I think I'm going to have to dig up the vid my buddy has of a 4dr civic SOHC d-series engine with an edelbrock turbo bolt on kit 10lbs...beating a intake, exhaust, xpipe, chip, 4.10's mach 1 by like a fender

:jest:

civic went like 13.6 @ 104 -- mach 1 went like 13.x(cant drive) @ 107ish

if that guy was running a 12.4 quarter he would have to be cutting 1.7 60ft times, and i doubt he could do that on anything but full slicks. i say get a good driver with an m6 car with similar modds and the story would have been different.
that guy in the mach sounded like he was a shifting fool though...........

I enjoyed the videos. The mach sounds sweet. A bolton ls1 fbody vs a bolton mach make a good race. Especially if theyre both have manual trans. Its a drivers race. I still think the ls1 has the edge.

To really fuck the mach start from a roll at 30mph. That speed is the dead spot of his trans. Too high for 1st gear and to low for 2nd. For an m6 ls1 with stock gears itd be the perfect speed. Seriously, thats what the mach driver was doing. Starting from a roll at 10mph is perfect for his gearing. 3.37 first gear and 4.1 axle ratio.

I really wish more of these people were in the Colorado area, I would take my SS out to race a good Mach 1, or a Cobra, Supra something. I'm stock, which finally is going to change here in a bit, still wouldn't mind the race.

I have yet to find a Mach 1 cruising, a 03 and a 97 Cobra, a Shinoda Boss Mustang [What do those run any one know?] and a local shop owner owns a beautiful Supra which blew its motor and sold its T-88 for a T-76 [70 something :eek2: ] and is fully building his motor. There is a video of him taking a lightly modded 03 Cobra when he had the T-88 from a roll, really high rolls, 100+.

I enjoyed the videos. The mach sounds sweet. A bolton ls1 fbody vs a bolton mach make a good race. Especially if theyre both have manual trans. Its a drivers race. I still think the ls1 has the edge.

To really fuck the mach start from a roll at 30mph. That speed is the dead spot of his trans. Too high for 1st gear and to low for 2nd. For an m6 ls1 with stock gears itd be the perfect speed. Seriously, thats what the mach driver was doing. Starting from a roll at 10mph is perfect for his gearing. 3.37 first gear and 4.1 axle ratio.


Except the Camaro was pulled at the higher speeds and at the beginning seemed to stay even. But it was too dark for the most part.

Either way it was a kill on the Camaro even if the Mach1 was a hater and an ass.


I still give him props for the kill. :cheers:

BTW the Camaro should have had better high end IMHO. :cool:

Except the Camaro was pulled at the higher speeds and at the beginning seemed to stay even. But it was too dark for the most part.

Either way it was a kill on the Camaro even if the Mach1 was a hater and an ass.


I still give him props for the kill. :cheers:

BTW the Camaro should have had better high end IMHO. :cool:


Youre right it was an honest kill. I have to give props for the mach driver leaving after the 3 honks. Ive seen it where the driver leaves right on the 3rd honk for a lil bit of a jump. It was definitly a fair race.

I was just giving advice as to the best way to beat the mach. I think a m6 ls1 fbody with a lid, cutout and a catless ypipe would be a perfect match to the machs mods and would be a fair race.

Sounded like the Camaro was leaving it in 2nd when he should have been in 1st also. No wheel spin from a 1st gear roll? Either that or his car was completely stock and had problems. Crappy driver for sure. The guy in the Mach could shift though.

if that guy was running a 12.4 quarter he would have to be cutting 1.7 60ft times, and i doubt he could do that on anything but full slicks. .........

I pulled a 1.765 on 17" bald BFG drag radials. :)

Mach driver was a good driver, but a complete idiot/asshat/cocky fucker. The camaro was an auto with a stock verter. Seems about right to me.

I enjoyed the videos. The mach sounds sweet. A bolton ls1 fbody vs a bolton mach make a good race. Especially if theyre both have manual trans. Its a drivers race. I still think the ls1 has the edge.

To really fuck the mach start from a roll at 30mph. That speed is the dead spot of his trans. Too high for 1st gear and to low for 2nd. For an m6 ls1 with stock gears itd be the perfect speed. Seriously, thats what the mach driver was doing. Starting from a roll at 10mph is perfect for his gearing. 3.37 first gear and 4.1 axle ratio.
If you want an even race "which is always the best way" go from a dig.. That way you will have no excuses about the other car being in there power band and I wasn't, crap... The hole point in racing is to see which car/driver is better.... It's not really accorate from a role now is it... If it was from a dig that Mach1 would have walked off and left that SS sitting there... They just get out of the hole better with the stock suspention than the F-body...

Why brag that ur modded Mach beat a STOCK camaro. 12.4---Vs---13.4

I thought all 99+ LS1 F-Bodies ran 12.9 or better straight from the factory???

That's what most of the owners that I run into say... ;)

I thought all 99+ LS1 F-Bodies ran 12.9 or better straight from the factory???

That's what most of the owners that I run into say... ;)

:thumb: :nod:

Of course it depends on the argument...if they are trying to talk about how well it performs stock, it dips into the 12s. If they are talking about a stock car getting beat, mid to high 13s. I think I've even heard low 14s before.

I thought all 99+ LS1 F-Bodies ran 12.9 or better straight from the factory???

That's what most of the owners that I run into say... ;)

its like the 03 cobra...some of them can run 12.9 stock...but usually they dont. certain fbody and mustang owners have the ability to run sub 13's stock, most don't, end of story move on.

i don't agree with the mach 1 owner talking sh***t about the win, he was a moron saying what he said, but still, i would give him props for his driving style, an the way he killed the camaro. also good for them, they went from a roll, going from a dig would've been a complete disaster for the camaro.

The Mach won without a doubt and I do not doubt that the mods listed are accurate. The Mach's biggest advantage was his gearing. Rolling at 10 mph in an f-body with 3.73 gears it's no suprise he didn't even break the tires loose. That is one huge gear to overcome compared to the Mach rolling from 10 mph, which as you could plainly see in the video was through 1st gear in a second. He was in his powerband very quickly with the shorter gearing of his tranny and 4.10s. I would expect that same result to happen to anybody no matter how good the driver given those two cars and their mods.

Its all good, I thought you spelled it like that on purpous. Sorry if I was bein kinda bitchy. Wow you can't edit the title? Dang they should change that. On other boards you can but oh well.

Tyler is just a dumb butt redneck that can't spell... :P Your WS6 should weigh more than an SS, though it is pretty close. The camaro has SLP headers, not heads, big difference ;)

About the mach1 having a supercharger, and nitrous, myfault was just KIDDING!!! I understand sarcasm can be hard to pick up on the internet, but come on, NO ONE picked up on that!?

Damn arrogant/cocky mach1 owner...

its like the 03 cobra...some of them can run 12.9 stock...but usually they dont. certain fbody and mustang owners have the ability to run sub 13's stock, most don't, end of story...

Actually, some run 12.4's stock...

...but I do see your point. :D

I just asked about the Mach's mods- he forgot to list his trunk mounted Pratt and Whitney Turbine in his sig.