Texas Speed "Magic Stick" Camshaft R3 Specs & Results ---->
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Texas Speed "Magic Stick" Camshaft R3 Specs & Results ---->
We just finished dynoing our latest revision of our Magic Stick camshaft. This revision will clear stock cylinder heads! No longer will you have to worry with cutting valve reliefs if you want to run the Magic Stickv.3 ("MS3") camshaft. The test car is a 2001 Z28 with an unlocked TCI Competition 4400 stall torque converter, PaceSetter coated LT headers, TSP Rumbler X true duals, factory LS6 intake, factory water pump, both belts in place, and ASP crank pulley. The car was running our 225/225, .589"/.589", 112 LSA camshaft and was consistently making 362 RWHP through the unlocked TCI torque converter. After the swap to the TSP MS3, it put down 402.4 RWHP! This is with 100% stock cylinder heads. The heads have never been off of the engine. That's a 40 RWHP gain over the 225/225 camshaft! If you're wondering what it will do in a six-speed-equipped car with stock cylinder heads, you'll have to wait another week. We'll have dyno results next weekend from a customer that's out-of-state.
The specs on the TSP MS3 are 237/242, .603"/.609", 113 LSA. With the right setup, (i.e. stall speed and/or gearing), the car can make some IMPRESSIVE passes at the track. Ten-second timeslips in the 1/4-mile with stock cylinder heads are certainly doable with the proper setup. Just wait and we'll show you. One of the best things about this camshaft is that you can have the best horsepower numbers with better piston-to-valve clearance than other large cams currently offered. We have two more test cars to try the cam in to check consistency, and then they will be ready to ship!
Feel free to call or e-mail us if you have any questions. We'll be glad to help you out.
Trevor
Texas Speed & Performance
The specs on the TSP MS3 are 237/242, .603"/.609", 113 LSA. With the right setup, (i.e. stall speed and/or gearing), the car can make some IMPRESSIVE passes at the track. Ten-second timeslips in the 1/4-mile with stock cylinder heads are certainly doable with the proper setup. Just wait and we'll show you. One of the best things about this camshaft is that you can have the best horsepower numbers with better piston-to-valve clearance than other large cams currently offered. We have two more test cars to try the cam in to check consistency, and then they will be ready to ship!
Feel free to call or e-mail us if you have any questions. We'll be glad to help you out.
Trevor
Texas Speed & Performance
Last edited by Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.; 07-24-2004 at 12:16 AM.
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Originally Posted by BigTex
Nice numbers.
Looks like that baby needs to rev like a supra. 7300 and still going strong.
Looks like that baby needs to rev like a supra. 7300 and still going strong.
Dynojets get skewed numbers with big converters in automatic cars, it was nowhere near 7300 since the rev limiter was 6800.
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Thats good news. I was getting worried there. Torque and HP cross at 5250, so the scale is right. I need to do some dynojet research.
I was pretty impressed with the power and curve at 7300 though.
I was pretty impressed with the power and curve at 7300 though.
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Your mod list is confusing. You say "PaceSetter coated LT headers, PaceSetter 3" off-road y-pipe, TSP Rumbler X true duals," but which one is it?
Just playing. Either way, very impressive numbers!
Just playing. Either way, very impressive numbers!
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Originally Posted by JS
I wish u guys would lock the verter once in a while..
Dynoing unlocked skews thing to much,At the track I agree this is no big deal but a locked graph would be nice.
Would this cam work with LS6 heads ported shaved .030 2.02/1.57 and notched pistons?
Dynoing unlocked skews thing to much,At the track I agree this is no big deal but a locked graph would be nice.
Would this cam work with LS6 heads ported shaved .030 2.02/1.57 and notched pistons?
We were told not to lock the TCI converters too much, usually they seem to slip anyways. If the pistons are flycut around .050" it would probably have plenty of clearance for .030" cut heads with bigger valves.
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Originally Posted by JS
I wish u guys would lock the verter once in a while..
Dynoing unlocked skews thing to much,At the track I agree this is no big deal but a locked graph would be nice.
Would this cam work with LS6 heads ported shaved .030 2.02/1.57 and notched pistons?
Dynoing unlocked skews thing to much,At the track I agree this is no big deal but a locked graph would be nice.
Would this cam work with LS6 heads ported shaved .030 2.02/1.57 and notched pistons?
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Black,I totally agree with u,we all race in unlocked mode but I think most guys would like to see the dyno graph locked up.However I wouldnt lock up the TCI if thats what they recommended to TSP.
Its all good people,that cam looks badass,I'd love to try one.
Way to go TSP for another killer product
Its all good people,that cam looks badass,I'd love to try one.
Way to go TSP for another killer product
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I'd like to see one of your test cars with a set of S2 heads under 11.1 CR in an M6. Very impressive numbers for unlocked no matter how you look at it, but I think you get a more realistic torque reading with it locked. I like the way you compared the two cams as apples to apples though..Good job!
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We're working on the m6 tests We don't have real good luck locking the TCI verters when cars start making this much hp, so we stopped trying.
This camshaft was a result of about 3 months of tweaking to get the results we wanted while keeping good p/v
This camshaft was a result of about 3 months of tweaking to get the results we wanted while keeping good p/v
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I think Trevor ment it was off-road (no cats) True duals.. We do have some cat True dual systems in testing
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Gotta agree with JS on this. It is really hard to make sound dyno judgements when using an unlocked converter. I would like to know how you get a reading at 4000 rpm with an unlocked 4400 converter. An unlocked converter totally skews a dynojet. I'll bet the rpm/mph factor is way off if you look at the detailed printout and not just the graph. Tell me who has a 4000 stall NA converter that does not jump to at least 5000 rpm when you go to WOT? No one does and that skews everything .
I'm sure the car will fly at the track with that combo. However, for R&D dyno results I perfer to see a M6 or at least a locked converter dyno report.
BTW, 400 HP unlocked cam only is insane.
I'm sure the car will fly at the track with that combo. However, for R&D dyno results I perfer to see a M6 or at least a locked converter dyno report.
BTW, 400 HP unlocked cam only is insane.
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The TCI 4400 just won't let us lock it up at this power level... No worries though, we'll have it in a few m6 cars very soon
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Originally Posted by 11SECSS
Maybe you guys should let me try one in my stock conv to see how much HP a bone stock car will pick up with it since mine puts down 318.Mods coming soon just picked up a 6 pt cage for the vert.
Not sure if this applies to verts but you may want to look at this new rule
http://www.nhra.com/2004/news/june/062202.html