Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for
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Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for Will 27" QTP's of any width hold some hard launches from a 430 or so RWHP 6-speed w/ a 4.30-geared 9"?
What size rear wheels (Draglites) would one need to mount 27" x 11.5" (or 10.5" if it'll hook) x 15" QTP's on? What backspacing, etc. Yes, I know grinding will be necessary.
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What size rear wheels (Draglites) would one need to mount 27" x 11.5" (or 10.5" if it'll hook) x 15" QTP's on? What backspacing, etc. Yes, I know grinding will be necessary.
TIA!
10-07-2002, 09:05 PM
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for first question is relative.
second question = 15x10. 7.5" BS (this is for Welds).
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second question = 15x10. 7.5" BS (this is for Welds).
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for and here is a picture of what that would look like. i have 27x11.50x15 hoosier qtp's on 15x10 rims and a 5/16 spacer.
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10-09-2002, 01:37 AM
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for In my opinion the car would not hook on those tires, it would hook alright, but not dead hook like your going to need to for the SI power adder record. I would recomend the hoosier slicks.
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for And a second thing for the record. Once you do break the Stock Internal M6 Power adder record, which is 10.95@122 held by Tosto Racings 01 SS, lets remember a few things:
1)Record is over a year old
2)Pass was his first night at the track with the juice
3)the cars only mods were Tnt lid, 4.10's, Bogarts w/ et streets, b&m ripper, TNT 100 SHOT.
Thats it, no headers, no catback,nothing special.
4)NO Weight reductions, Car weighed in at 3600+
There is no doubt in my mind that your 3000lb
car will break into the 10's. I just don't find it quite as impressive as the little 500 mile SS
that LAST OCTOBER proved that 10's could be had with gears, tires,TNT 100 shot, and one hell of a driver, IMO. Not flaming, just stating the facts. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
1)Record is over a year old
2)Pass was his first night at the track with the juice
3)the cars only mods were Tnt lid, 4.10's, Bogarts w/ et streets, b&m ripper, TNT 100 SHOT.
Thats it, no headers, no catback,nothing special.
4)NO Weight reductions, Car weighed in at 3600+
There is no doubt in my mind that your 3000lb
car will break into the 10's. I just don't find it quite as impressive as the little 500 mile SS
that LAST OCTOBER proved that 10's could be had with gears, tires,TNT 100 shot, and one hell of a driver, IMO. Not flaming, just stating the facts. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
10-09-2002, 09:43 AM
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Stu'sWS6:
<strong>In my opinion the car would not hook on those tires, it would hook alright, but not dead hook like your going to need to for the SI power adder record. I would recomend the hoosier slicks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Stu's WS6:
<strong>And a second thing for the record. Once you do break the Stock Internal M6 Power adder record, which is 10.95@122 held by Tosto Racings 01 SS, lets remember a few things:
1)Record is over a year old
2)Pass was his first night at the track with the juice
3)the cars only mods were Tnt lid, 4.10's, Bogarts w/ et streets, b&m ripper, TNT 100 SHOT.
Thats it, no headers, no catback,nothing special.
4)NO Weight reductions, Car weighed in at 3600+
There is no doubt in my mind that your 3000lb
car will break into the 10's. I just don't find it quite as impressive as the little 500 mile SS
that LAST OCTOBER proved that 10's could be had with gears, tires,TNT 100 shot, and one hell of a driver, IMO. Not flaming, just stating the facts. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whoa, whoa, whoa. For one thing, you've gotten the wrong idea from somewhere about my setup. I'm not going for the stock internal record. N/A or power adder. As a matter of fact, no power adder is touching my car for a long time. A 100-shot of N2O would put me WAY past your friend, and I'm not really worried about what impresses you. I don't race to impress you or anyone else for that matter. Not flaming, just stating some more facts.
<strong>In my opinion the car would not hook on those tires, it would hook alright, but not dead hook like your going to need to for the SI power adder record. I would recomend the hoosier slicks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Stu's WS6:
<strong>And a second thing for the record. Once you do break the Stock Internal M6 Power adder record, which is 10.95@122 held by Tosto Racings 01 SS, lets remember a few things:
1)Record is over a year old
2)Pass was his first night at the track with the juice
3)the cars only mods were Tnt lid, 4.10's, Bogarts w/ et streets, b&m ripper, TNT 100 SHOT.
Thats it, no headers, no catback,nothing special.
4)NO Weight reductions, Car weighed in at 3600+
There is no doubt in my mind that your 3000lb
car will break into the 10's. I just don't find it quite as impressive as the little 500 mile SS
that LAST OCTOBER proved that 10's could be had with gears, tires,TNT 100 shot, and one hell of a driver, IMO. Not flaming, just stating the facts. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whoa, whoa, whoa. For one thing, you've gotten the wrong idea from somewhere about my setup. I'm not going for the stock internal record. N/A or power adder. As a matter of fact, no power adder is touching my car for a long time. A 100-shot of N2O would put me WAY past your friend, and I'm not really worried about what impresses you. I don't race to impress you or anyone else for that matter. Not flaming, just stating some more facts.
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10-09-2002, 10:24 AM
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for i will say it now and say it again. i LOVE the way the 28x9 ET Drags hooked. i KNOW they will outhook the QTP (read-DOT approved grooved slick), not as good as a full slick.
i think for what you are going after a 4.56 and 28x9 is perfect. cross the traps at the right rpm too! and again the 28x9 is only 27.3" so it is the same size as you are thinking.
i think for what you are going after a 4.56 and 28x9 is perfect. cross the traps at the right rpm too! and again the 28x9 is only 27.3" so it is the same size as you are thinking.
10-09-2002, 11:02 AM
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for 9" wide is kinda narrow, isn't it? I just wonder if a 28"x10.5" would be better. Dude, do you have 4.56's?
10-09-2002, 01:08 PM
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for well if 9" is narrow, think about this. how wide can a 10.5" tire be on an 8" wide wheel? just food for thought. you are NOT puttin 10.5" on the ground. also, more sidewall flex is the limitor, not the contact patch.
yes i had 4.56 gears put in my car. tell'in ya. good stuff!
yes i had 4.56 gears put in my car. tell'in ya. good stuff!
10-09-2002, 01:21 PM
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for Dude, I was talking about running a 10.5" or 11.5" wide tire on a 10" wide rim, not 8". Dude, are your RPM's bearable on the highway?
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for Do some research on Hoosier's web page and see what they say what rim is suggested with what size tire.
Im running 28x11.5x15 Quick Time Pro DOT's on 15x8's.
Im running 28x11.5x15 Quick Time Pro DOT's on 15x8's.
10-09-2002, 01:45 PM
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for Alan-
I had QTP's (26x9.5) and they would not hold a launch above 4800 on a well-prepped
track.
I went to 28x9(27.3 actual) ET DRAGS with a 4.30 gear.They do hook alot better.
I trap at the same RPM as 26"with 4.10s(6100)
Coach had problems hooking with Hoosiers also.
BUT- I've also found that in my car,coming out at higher RPM's(5500+)
Doesn't give me anymore 60' than a hard slip at 5000.
M6's really need Full slicks to be consistant.
I hope this helps
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I had QTP's (26x9.5) and they would not hold a launch above 4800 on a well-prepped
track.
I went to 28x9(27.3 actual) ET DRAGS with a 4.30 gear.They do hook alot better.
I trap at the same RPM as 26"with 4.10s(6100)
Coach had problems hooking with Hoosiers also.
BUT- I've also found that in my car,coming out at higher RPM's(5500+)
Doesn't give me anymore 60' than a hard slip at 5000.
M6's really need Full slicks to be consistant.
I hope this helps
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for My bad RAGEman, I had you confused with '01Z, your sig confused me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
10-09-2002, 03:20 PM
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for If I decide to strap a bottle to it,I don't see a problem with 10.60's@130.
If that doesn't impress you than what will?
BTW-my race weight is 3090 not 3000.
I still can't decide If I want cam or juice.
Not that it matters,for some reason,some people think cause it's light
it somehow doesn't count.
Why is making more power more legitimate than lighter weight?
It's funny cause I beat H/C M6's at the track.
Logic would dictate that my way is better.
But you can't please everybody.Oh well.
To each his own. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
If that doesn't impress you than what will?
BTW-my race weight is 3090 not 3000.
I still can't decide If I want cam or juice.
Not that it matters,for some reason,some people think cause it's light
it somehow doesn't count.
Why is making more power more legitimate than lighter weight?
It's funny cause I beat H/C M6's at the track.
Logic would dictate that my way is better.
But you can't please everybody.Oh well.
To each his own. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
10-09-2002, 03:21 PM
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by bsharer:
<strong>Do some research on Hoosier's web page and see what they say what rim is suggested with what size tire.
Im running 28x11.5x15 Quick Time Pro DOT's on 15x8's.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I just might do that. Are you telling me to do that because you just want me to overcome my laziness even though you already know? If so, that ain't right!!! <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />
Sean, cool. Looks like I still got some deciding to do. Hmmmm....decisions, decisions.
gator's 99TA, I wanna say your name's Adam, am I right? Those RPM's are liveable, I'd say. Might take a little getting used to, but hey, I'm willing to make sacrifices.
Stu, it's cool, man. I saw that 3000-lb. car comment, and I figured you knew who you were talking to. My car weighed around 3040 W/O me...so, about 3200 with me. Some people just have different goals, and different motivations, I guess. To each his own. Take care.
<strong>Do some research on Hoosier's web page and see what they say what rim is suggested with what size tire.
Im running 28x11.5x15 Quick Time Pro DOT's on 15x8's.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I just might do that. Are you telling me to do that because you just want me to overcome my laziness even though you already know? If so, that ain't right!!! <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />
Sean, cool. Looks like I still got some deciding to do. Hmmmm....decisions, decisions.
gator's 99TA, I wanna say your name's Adam, am I right? Those RPM's are liveable, I'd say. Might take a little getting used to, but hey, I'm willing to make sacrifices.
Stu, it's cool, man. I saw that 3000-lb. car comment, and I figured you knew who you were talking to. My car weighed around 3040 W/O me...so, about 3200 with me. Some people just have different goals, and different motivations, I guess. To each his own. Take care.
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 01-Z:
<strong>If I decide to strap a bottle to it,I don't see a problem with 10.60's@130.
If that doesn't impress you than what will?
BTW-my race weight is 3090 not 3000.
I still can't decide If I want cam or juice.
Not that it matters,for some reason,some people think cause it's light
it somehow doesn't count.
Why is making more power more legitimate than lighter weight?
It's funny cause I beat H/C M6's at the track.
Logic would dictate that my way is better.
But you can't please everybody.Oh well.
To each his own. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's what I been sayin. Quit trying to copy me! Some people with heavier cars just want to have yet another excuse to fall back on for why they don't run as quick as their peers w/ similar setups do. Not all, but some.
<strong>If I decide to strap a bottle to it,I don't see a problem with 10.60's@130.
If that doesn't impress you than what will?
BTW-my race weight is 3090 not 3000.
I still can't decide If I want cam or juice.
Not that it matters,for some reason,some people think cause it's light
it somehow doesn't count.
Why is making more power more legitimate than lighter weight?
It's funny cause I beat H/C M6's at the track.
Logic would dictate that my way is better.
But you can't please everybody.Oh well.
To each his own. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's what I been sayin. Quit trying to copy me! Some people with heavier cars just want to have yet another excuse to fall back on for why they don't run as quick as their peers w/ similar setups do. Not all, but some.
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for Preach it,Brother!
I thought our way was better. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
I always thought there was NO downside to building everything else first.
(clutch,rearend,gears,suspension)and doing the motor last.
Almost everybody else does H/C first and is always sidelined(not racing)
because they are ALWAYS breaking parts.
But LOVE to quote RWHP numbers.
Like you said... SOME,not all. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I thought our way was better. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
I always thought there was NO downside to building everything else first.
(clutch,rearend,gears,suspension)and doing the motor last.
Almost everybody else does H/C first and is always sidelined(not racing)
because they are ALWAYS breaking parts.
But LOVE to quote RWHP numbers.
Like you said... SOME,not all. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: Another question (this one about drag wheels/tires) that I'm too lazy to search for I am not saying that your records aren't impressive, just that the current record holder had no intentions on going for the record-just kind of ended up that way. Guys, I realize that removing weight from a race car is the easiest way to go faster and to cut down on driveline failure. I myself have eliminated a few items from my TA to help in the ET department. I was just stating the facts about his car, I was not
knocking on your effort. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
knocking on your effort. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />