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Old 08-02-2004, 11:29 AM
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have a vig3200 and with et streets it wines out in rpm from 1000 to red line.how do you make these things hit like they should.at the track it did not seem to stall but only ramp up as if stock verter.car did a 12.9 1/4 with a 2 for a 60 ft. , never had a tc before so do not know what is normal????
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It will still ramp up, but should start @ 3600 or so RPMS.

Are you saying you started moving @ 1000 rpms?
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this car moves from 0 rpm to wot , is it suppose to slam at 32-3600 rpm???? i can not get this car to flash . if i sit at the lights with 1000 rpm and floor it it simply grabs gear right away and rolls off.is it suppose to go to 32-3600 and then hit?????
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No, all converters do not just jump up to there rated stall (you need a trans brake for that), they flash up around their rated stall, depending on traction, gearing and track prep. How was your burnout? short or long, was the track prepped? Most converters will creep up at any rpm, my Vig3200 would do it, heck even my TCI4400 creeps forward.
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mine does the exact same thing!! u described it perfectly it rolls up....i thought that it would stall up to 3600 then hit the tires.

so how do we get these cars to stall up?
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Are you sure it is not stalling to 3600? As soon as I floor my car, it moves. There is no delay.

EFI shows my TC stalls around 3200.

Don't forget, our tachs are slow.
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i don't think i fully understand how a verter works. the car tachs are slow but on the brakes at 1000 rpm i floor it and ya can watch the tach go up as fast as the engine ramps up.i thought the car would freewheel to stall speed and engage the tires at 32-3600 rpm?????
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I used to have a Yank stl 3200, And it would spin up to 3200 & hit really hard. (hard to get a good hook with nitto's) Swap out to a Vig 3200 & you cann't tell when it hits, but you can control it alot more. With the summer weather here in Florida im always cutting 1.80
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ok,vig tc's come on soft,is 12.9 @ 105 good for a cam only car ????
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I think you have some misconceptions. Your motor does not need to spin to 3200rpm before it moves an inch. Thats not the way stalls work. A stall is "looser" than a factory TC. Part throttle driving you should see 500-800 rpm increase in rpm's during accleration. When you flash a t/c from idle to WOT the rpms should jump to 3200 or so AS you start moving, not before.
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i was driving around 14mph and nailed it...the car took off, but didnt jump to 3200+. from an idle roll i nailed it and blew up my rear end. hooking up isnt always a good thing

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ok,vig tc's come on soft,is 12.9 @ 105 good for a cam only car ????
Not really. I had a 13.0 at 106 with only a lid and cutout. You should be deep 12's if not 11's with your mods.
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this car comes does not jump off the line,it simply works its way up the rpm ,zero hit.i'm just wonderin' if this is the way it should be.people watchin the car say it's comin out slow?????
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this car comes does not jump off the line,it simply works its way up the rpm ,zero hit.i'm just wonderin' if this is the way it should be.people watchin the car say it's comin out slow?????
What kind of tires are you using? its definately way off. You might have a bunk converter, any possibility the tranny shop ripped you off? Vig converters are pink. Might want to check that out.
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this is the second vig i have bought,i am doin that time on et streets.
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my vig 3200 stalls to about 3800 rpm. if i hit it off the line, it will IMMEDIATELY jump up past 3500 or so RPM and blow the tires clean off....also flashing the converter from a very slow roll produces a VERY VIOLENT hit...you might have a defective converter.
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Put the car in gear and hold the brakes. Apply the throttle slowly and note waht rpm the tires break loose and start to spin. Should be around 2800 to 3200. If they break loose before that it is not workin properly.

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Originally Posted by DeepBlueZ
my vig 3200 stalls to about 3800 rpm. if i hit it off the line, it will IMMEDIATELY jump up past 3500 or so RPM and blow the tires clean off....also flashing the converter from a very slow roll produces a VERY VIOLENT hit...you might have a defective converter.
sooo my verter might not be flashin' at all,car does not come close to doin this,works like the stock verter and is very mushy down low.what could cause a verter to not hit????? thks for the info ?????
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With my Vig3200 as soon as I go WOT it's over 3000rpm & shift extension around 4500rpm. I notice that you have a 410 rear, That will make feel alot tighter. You should be putting down better times. Im running stock internal's with a consitant 8.01 1/8 time, (12.5 - 12.6 1/4 mile). You need to shift as high as possible. My shift is set 6300. Also becareful of Taylor wires, I had 2 set's with 3 wires with very high ohms..
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Originally Posted by SquintzPallatore
Put the car in gear and hold the brakes. Apply the throttle slowly and note waht rpm the tires break loose and start to spin. Should be around 2800 to 3200. If they break loose before that it is not workin properly.

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I would not go by this test, if it was true then I have a TCI2000 converter because my tires (even ET Streets) can and will break loose at around 2000 rpms (without a proper burnout), yet it cuts low 1.6 60' by stalling upto 3000 rpms (with a proper burnout). I don't know about 1998-2000, but on 2001-2002 models if you place the selector in 2nd and push down on the throttle, where it flashes to (RPMs) that is your stall speed (relatively speaking without a transbrake). The method SquintzPallatore is describing is limited to the amount of traction available, condition of your rear brakes, etc ... alot of factors. SmokingWS6 explained it correctly! Your TC will not jump to 3200 before it moves, only to when your tires can hold the torque ... which is much lower than the stall speed. Only with a transbrake will you see the actual stall speed of your converter!




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