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Bob Cosby

12-14-2002, 05:24 PM

...gotta quick question for you guys. Excepting power adders, is ya'lls criteria pretty much "anything that doesn't touch oil is a bolt-on"?

Thanks for any insight...this "internet ET" thing can be quite entertaining. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

JurisAg02

12-14-2002, 07:17 PM

Bob Cosby

12-14-2002, 07:27 PM

Real intentions? Ok. I'd like for guys like 01-Z, Rageman, Wilwaxu, Larry01Z28, Y2k Blackbird, Black Sunshine, etc, to weigh in on my question. So, not knowing what I am denying (or not), did that answer your inquiry?

Fbody Man

12-14-2002, 07:37 PM

U must be a ford guy cause u own 2 fords. Why r u here. GET OUT!!! <img border="0" alt="[fight]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" />

No fords here <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> Bob cosby

Matt Sterbator

12-14-2002, 07:44 PM

Bob USED to own an LS1.

Lane2

12-14-2002, 07:45 PM

Man Bob, looking at your sig. You've got that Cobra flying.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

H82BBad

12-14-2002, 07:51 PM

Oh Bob's a good guy <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Dont jump on him like some have jumped on us at other boards.

Bob is a great guy. one of the moderaters on the corral,Puts on a great race (missed it this year)And a credit to our forum.

Mike Hoffpauir

12-14-2002, 08:01 PM

Yeah Bob, the closest thing to an engine modification that is allowed is updating to a 2001 or 2002 intake (LS6 intake).

Other than that, something as simple as a valve spring swap is no longer considered stock internals.

I hope that most stock internal guys could say: (as I could while I was one of them) "The valve covers have never been off the motor".

Bob Cosby

12-14-2002, 08:32 PM

Hi F-body man. Hope you're having a good day. I'm here because I like to drag race, I used to have a 99 T/A (http://members.cox.net/rdcosby1/ta/), I enjoy the Forum, and I have quite a few friends here. What's your next question?

Thanks for the compliment, Lane2...and right back at ya...plus a couple of tenths. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Mike...tks. One reason for asking is that I have a bit of a friendly rivaly with some of the guys I mentioned above. I intend to try out a different intake, and wanted an opinion from those that like to do the "stock internal" thing if that would cause problems, in their opinion. I never had internal work done on my LS1, so I don't know if the intake 'touches oil' or not. It does not on a DOHC, hence the attempt at clarification....from the internet ET perspective. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

BTW....I'm not using "internet ET" in a bad way. From my perspective, that term is used to describe the ET you flaunt in your internet sig, and was usually obtained under very good conditions. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

WILWAXU

12-14-2002, 09:01 PM

I thought I already answered this <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

You upgrading to a '01 intake isn't much different than a '99 Z28 upgrading to a '01 (ZO6)intake.

For those that haven't figured it out.. Bob is keeping his Cobra to our SI rules... He's not content being the fastest Bolt-on Cobra.. he wants to take out a few LS1's in the process <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

[ December 15, 2002, 05:50 AM: Message edited by: WILWAXU ]

RAGEman

12-14-2002, 10:07 PM

Hey, lay off Bob, you imbecile. He is a cool guy and he is not "your typical Ford owner." ANYONE is welcome on this board. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

At any rate, the valve covers have never been off my motor and I have an '01 car, so I don't need an intake swap. I remember back in the day when roller rockers were being debated over. But, I think we decided those were internal motor mods. I think a good rule of thumb would be if you have to take the valve covers off or not.

[EDIT]: Bob, your intake swap would be A-OK in my book.

[ December 14, 2002, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: RAGEman ]

promod1955

12-15-2002, 12:59 AM

So Bob, whats up your sleeve? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

JS12

12-15-2002, 02:44 AM

Damn...he left me, lane and v6 bird out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

[ December 15, 2002, 02:45 AM: Message edited by: JS12 ]

Bob Cosby

12-15-2002, 06:34 AM

You, Lane, V6bird and a few others aren't as noisy as Rageman, Wilwaxu, 01-Z, etc. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

I actually have had a valve cover off my car....at the 2001 NMRA race, tech wanted to verify legality, so we pulled the passenger-side valve cover, did a P&G, and checked the lift on the cams. Don't think that is a big deal though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

As for what is up my sleeve...I'm having an intake done up, getting full-length headers, a tubular front end, some good shocks and struts (likely QA1's), a T5 with scattershield (ya, I said T5), and perhaps one or two other very minor things. I'm going to rev the **** out of it and see what it'll run. Needs more gear, but 4.56's is my street limit. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

98TAauto

12-15-2002, 07:34 AM

hell i wont be on the top list soon if i still am now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> damn cars keep getting faster and faster <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

but anything goes as long as it doesnt require power adders, cam swapping, valve spring changes, and etc etc.. you get the idea. Bascially no motor work other than LS6 intake and headers <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
oh and Bob stop spying on us slow LS1's <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Camaroholic

12-15-2002, 08:58 AM

Hey FbodyMan, you're a freakin' moron. Bob has been hangin out with F-body guys (http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/downs/3188) longer than you've had your LS1. I don't think LS1's were even out back then.

(A photo from 5 1/2 years ago, remember that Bob? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> ).

-Andrew

[ December 15, 2002, 09:01 AM: Message edited by: Camaroholic ]

Bob Cosby

12-15-2002, 10:22 AM

Ah...no big deal guys. I hold no grudge against F-body Man. We all make mistakes and say not-so-smart things from time to time. You ought to see some of the fires I have my hands in over at the "other" site right now. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Andrew....how ya doin buddy? Hell ya I remember that! Still got that pic on my page (http://members.cox.net/bobcosby/stang/images/grp_ga~.jpg) too. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Has it been 5 1/2 years? Man...doesn't seem so long ago.

Bob Cosby

12-15-2002, 01:03 PM

LOL. So would I. Tell you what....I'll hook up a 100 shot and see what happens. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

The Juggernaut

12-15-2002, 03:23 PM

Hi Bob.
The way I look at is- You could use a factory intake(untouched)like an 01 if it's better.
But ideally,it would be a stock motor.
ie- no degreeing of the cam(s),no milling or porting of heads,ect.
Untouched from the factory.
But there is no sanctioning body to regulate this.
So,when you go quicker than us,we can say "he has an intake" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
and then we all feel better. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

The 'Black Cloud' will be Flyin' anyways. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

I will be lookin' for you May 31st in Bowling Green
(my car won't be idleing too good) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Sean

Bob Cosby

12-15-2002, 03:44 PM

LOL...I guess you could say that we are our own "sanctioning body". <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

The intake will be a stock 99, but it will not be "untouched". My line of reasoning (for whatever it may be worth) is that because no part of the intake touches oil, working it would be no different than cleaning up a throttle body, or the ports on a set of headers, or the mass-air meter, etc.

I wanted a 01, but few are available, and the 99 was a freebee. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Believe it or not, there is no easy way to change cam timing on these cars. That is one issue that is still being worked on by various builders.

Uh....May 31st in Bowling Green? What's going on then?

LARRY01Z28

12-15-2002, 04:09 PM

Hey Bob, whats up. I think as long as the intake isnt touched like ported or polished it would be considered a bolt on. i have the 01 so i didnt have to change to a LS6 intake. Looks like im going to need that 12 bolt to keep up with you now for sure. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> what is going on in BG? i may be in Kentucky for that time frame.

LARRY01Z28

12-15-2002, 04:12 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Fbody Man:
U must be a ford guy cause u own 2 fords. Why r u here. GET OUT!!! <img border="0" alt="[fight]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" />

No fords here <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> Bob cosby<hr /></blockquote>hey Fbody man, Bob Cosby is one of the coolest guys you will ever meet. he is good people, always willing to help someone out and share secrets and help you out if you need it. the last time i went to VMP he just came up to me out of the Blue and told me congrats on my runs. sometimes you should think about what you type before you type it you moron.

The Juggernaut

12-15-2002, 05:39 PM

North/south shootout.
May 31,2003(pending)
Bowling Green,Kentucky.

C'mon I want to meet/race you guys. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

LARRY01Z28

12-15-2002, 05:58 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 01-Z:
North/south shootout.
May 31,2003(pending)
Bowling Green,Kentucky.

C'mon I want to meet/race you guys. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>are you still going to be bolt on? if so maybe we could meet there and go heads up.

[ December 15, 2002, 06:00 PM: Message edited by: LARRY01Z28 ]

Bob Cosby

12-15-2002, 06:54 PM

Hmmmmm....not much to draw me to the North/South shootout dude.

Skelton

12-15-2002, 07:01 PM

Hey Bob, looks like the cobra is flying <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Very impressive for 281 cubes. An intake swap from another year model is fine. Just nothing that touches oil. I plan on giving the 10's a shot next spring. I'm adding a coan 3sp trans and losing at least another 100-150lbs along with alot of chassis work. I'll keep it internally stock untill my turbo/stroker motor comes together. Good luck !!

Colonel

12-15-2002, 07:36 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Fbody Man:
U must be a ford guy cause u own 2 fords. Why r u here. GET OUT!!! <img border="0" alt="[fight]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" />

No fords here <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> Bob cosby<hr /></blockquote>What do you see beneath my avatar? I believe it says "LS1TECH OWNER". When you start seeing that under YOUR name then you can start saying who should and shouldn't be here. Until then, Ford guys are more than welcome here. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Ok, now that I've gotten my <img border="0" alt="[fight]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" /> in I think we can lay off of Fbody Man. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

[ December 15, 2002, 07:36 PM: Message edited by: Colonel ]

JS12

12-15-2002, 08:45 PM

but i carry the list around in my backpocket <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

RAGEman

12-15-2002, 09:00 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bob Cosby:
You, Lane, V6bird and a few others aren't as noisy as Rageman, Wilwaxu, 01-Z, etc. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Hey, I'm not noisy!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />I actually have had a valve cover off my car....at the 2001 NMRA race, tech wanted to verify legality, so we pulled the passenger-side valve cover, did a P&G, and checked the lift on the cams. Don't think that is a big deal though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Nah, that's fine. As long as you don't modify anything or replace any parts under the valve covers with aftermarket parts. I don't see any problem with modifying your intake. But, then again, this isn't a dictatorship. We need some more opinions.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />As for what is up my sleeve...I'm having an intake done up, getting full-length headers, a tubular front end, some good shocks and struts (likely QA1's), a T5 with scattershield (ya, I said T5), and perhaps one or two other very minor things. I'm going to rev the **** out of it and see what it'll run. Needs more gear, but 4.56's is my street limit. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Darn you, Bob. You are just determined to make it hard on me, aren't you? Should be an interesting year for sure. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by LARRY01Z28:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 01-Z:
North/south shootout.
May 31,2003(pending)
Bowling Green,Kentucky.

C'mon I want to meet/race you guys. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>are you still going to be bolt on? if so maybe we could meet there and go heads up.<hr /></blockquote>I believe Sean is going with a heads/cam or cam/N2O setup. That said, I'll go heads up with ya! You're for sure getting a 12-bolt? What gear are you going to run?

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bob Cosby:
Hmmmmm....not much to draw me to the North/South shootout dude.<hr /></blockquote>Drat! Someone will surely make an exception and let you run with us since you're a regular here on the board. That would be great. The all LS1 and one 4.6L Cobra race.

The Juggernaut

12-15-2002, 10:10 PM

Alan's right, I won't be internally stock by the end of May.
I'll probably just have a cam(maybe N2O)maybe heads.
My plans as of now are-
cam(springs ,push rods,ect)
oil pump
timing chain
injectors
fuel pump(for juice later)
tuning
cage
redoing the exhaust

Probably in February.
But plans change.

I hope to see you guys there.(c'mon Bob. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> )

turbo'd stang

12-16-2002, 12:00 AM

Bob, are you taking a break from NMRA racing??

Scott

Bob Cosby

12-16-2002, 12:17 AM

Ya - http://stangcrazy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1253

turbo'd stang

12-16-2002, 12:51 AM

Good luck to you, I personally, would like to see your car in the 11.2 area:)

Scott

Bob Cosby

12-16-2002, 10:11 AM

Hehe...."Bolt-on King of the Hill" perhaps? <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />

Just keep them pesky 03 Cobra's out of it, and we'll be ok. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

I could run brackets I suppose, though that is the weekend after World Ford Challenge in St. Louis, and I'm not sure I'll be up to taking another trip. We'll see....would be fun for sure!

Bob Cosby

12-16-2002, 01:03 PM

Joe...I do agree it would be fun to meet up and race. This internet thing is a good distraction, but the track is where its at. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

As for the heads...you are correct, I was going to remove them in preparation for the 2003 NMRA F/S season. Valve jobs and milling are legal in that class, and to try and be competitive, I had made the decision to go that route (which, as you correctly point out, would have axed the "stock internal" moniker). However, my new assignment (I'm active USN) prevents me from making enough races to be competitive in the points chase, so I'm going to forgo that route, and do things that will require less time and a less stringent schedule.

RAGEman

12-16-2002, 06:48 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Joe Kizzire:
I've got a better deal... Why don't ya'll meet up and race... That would be fun to watch. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Yes, it would, but ole Bob keeps hiding in VA! I'm beginning to wonder if he really exists or not. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> What a testament it is to Bob and his car that even with his extra cam, he is actually contending with and beating some of the fastest similarly-modded LS1's, yeah, the ones with 65 more cubes. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

Bob, I agree that we should leave out the '03 Cobras. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> Which board are you having trouble on right now? Are you starting the fires or trying to put them out? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

LARRY01Z28

12-16-2002, 07:40 PM

Rageman, Bob does exist. i met him in person. lol and if Sean wont be bolt on anymore, ill run you heads upo. it will be fun. i will be getting a 12 bolt, hopefully real soon and im going with 4:11 gears.

JS12

12-16-2002, 11:23 PM

larry, RAGE, 01-z and i need to meet up and duke it out. i am going to have to get some taller gears to run with yall pretty soon <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

bob the 03's are n/a <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> even though they are still "stock from the factory" even though they have boltons

promod1955

12-16-2002, 11:46 PM

bob, sounds like you need to drop an ls1 in the cobra like we talked about. <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> it would save you less of a headache trying to play by ls1 stock internal rules. im not sure if you have seen it or not but saturdays at vmp there is a white early 90's style mustang with a 350 small block chevy and on the back glass it has a white chevy bowtie and in the center of the bowtie it says phony pony <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> .

Joe Kizzire

12-17-2002, 12:32 AM

Hey Bob.... In another thread you said you were removing the heads.... If it's stock internals what's that all about???? Five angle valve jobs and head milling is not stock internals... I've got a better deal... Why don't ya'll meet up and race... That would be fun to watch. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Bob Cosby

12-17-2002, 07:55 AM

JS...I know...just thought I'd put that out there. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

LS1 in my Cobra? Would be cool from the factory, but prolly not something I'd do after the fact - though it would be insteresting. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Instead, I rather do something a buddy of mine did...he has a modified 5.4 Navigator motor in his 97 Cobra. The thing idles like a stocker, runs on pump gas, and just made 436 RWHP on a MUSTANG dyno (typically read 20-40 HP lower than a Dynojet) through a stock catback. Neat. Not a cheap thing to do right now though. Perhaps one of these days.

turbo'd stang

12-17-2002, 08:52 AM

Damn, amazing what a few CI will do to a shitty mod motor:) Does this have stock cams/heads??

Bob Cosby

12-17-2002, 09:17 AM

Stock ported Navigator heads, reground navigator cams with a custom profile, and a very custom intake. It has a good set of pistons and good rods, stock crank. If you want to read about the details, here is a link. Be advised that it is probably the longest tech thread the Corral has ever had...

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10896

Al Papito is the guy's name. He raced Pro Stock bikes up till a couple of years ago, and knows his way around a 4V motor. Nobody has ever done anything like this before, and he has a LOT of work and money into the project.

If you want to skip all the middle stuff...click on the last page for his latest dyno info.

The Juggernaut

12-17-2002, 02:12 PM

Tell you what-
IF all you guys are going to show up,I WILL stay stock internal until May 31st.
Then there will be no doubt who the King is. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Bring some of that Texas weather to Kentucky. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

LARRY01Z28

12-17-2002, 02:21 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 01-Z:
Tell you what-
IF all you guys are going to show up,I WILL stay stock internal until May 31st.
Then there will be no doubt who the King is. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Bring some of that Texas weather to Kentucky. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>sounds good to me. your talking my home state. so maybe i can have a little bit of luck with me. lol I got to go out to sea, but im trying to get out of the DET. if i can ill be there.

Bob Cosby

12-17-2002, 03:58 PM

Damn...if you guys get together on May 31st in BG, and Mr 01-Z stays "bolt-on" just for the event, and Rageman can drag himself up from Texas, and Larry makes it out there, I just might have to take a day or two's leave and come on out myself.

Perhaps we could have a little shootout inside the race? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

RAGEman

12-17-2002, 06:26 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bob Cosby:
Damn...if you guys get together on May 31st in BG, and Mr 01-Z stays "bolt-on" just for the event, and Rageman can drag himself up from Texas, and Larry makes it out there, I just might have to take a day or two's leave and come on out myself.

Perhaps we could have a little shootout inside the race? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Man, now THIS sounds like fun. I'm signing up for vacation. I'll be there. <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />

The Juggernaut

12-17-2002, 08:07 PM

Now that's what I'M talkin' about! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Bolt on shoot-out,baby! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Bob Cosby

12-17-2002, 08:11 PM

hehe. I know 2 or 3 other 11 second bolt-on Cobra's that may or may not want to play. Would be fun. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

RAGEman

12-17-2002, 08:50 PM

If this actually materializes, it will be an awesome event! Bob, please tell me you are the fastest N/A bolt-on Cobra out there. I can't handle it if there's anyone faster than you. I'll cry. <img border="0" alt="[whiner]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" />

Bob Cosby

12-17-2002, 09:14 PM

LOL. I don't claim to be the fastest anything, However, the guys I'm thinking of are (or at least were) a tick or two behind me. 2 of em have 98's, and one has a 99 with very similar mods to mine.

RAGEman

12-18-2002, 07:15 AM

Oh, excuse me, Bob, what I meant to say was are you the fastest "internet ET" N/A bolt-on Cobra out there? If so, that's good enough for me.

Bob Cosby

12-18-2002, 10:48 AM

LOL. I think so, but one never really knows for sure. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

LARRY01Z28

12-18-2002, 02:13 PM

ok guys, i will try really really hard to be there. bob if i go you want to drive that way together?

Bob Cosby

12-18-2002, 06:12 PM

Possible Larry, though I would likely leave from work (Norfolk, CINCLANTFLT area), and can't pin down a time. Also, I will be trailering the car.