Drag Racing Tech - I'm building ma a bolt on motor with a little help from my friends.




fastlif
12-20-2002, 01:00 PM
its only for bragging rights. I think the honor system works pretty well amoung friends. Bob set this up with a few invites in mind. If you want to "build" your bolt-on motor..go ahead. its your money you are wasting for a pat on the back.

I just wich I still had a stock motor so I could get in on it.

Shawn


Bob Cosby
12-20-2002, 01:23 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bob if I've left any thing out, other than a stock DOHC 4.6 will turn 7500 rpm effortlessly, Let me know </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup...you left out the nitrous lines plumbed through the vacuum system, the lifter oil restricters, the trick crankcase evacuation system, and C44. Other than, I think you hit most of the bases.

I appreciate all your help with what I'm trying to do.

RAGEman
12-20-2002, 01:51 PM
Bob, the good-faith, invite-only system you established should eliminate most, if not all, attempts to cheat. Don't worry about old man Joe. We'll have a lot of fun!


Joe Kizzire
12-20-2002, 02:38 PM
Bob I support what your trying to do.... It's just that you are one of the sharper knives in the drawer and if you thought you could get away with some of these things you would do them. I do think that the Mustang crowd would get a big kick out of embarrasing the LS1 crowd especially after the dismal beginnings of the 4.6 DOHC Cobras and the spirited comments made towards the owners of said Mustangs by the LS1 crowd <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> ... I think it would be a lot of fun.

Rageman ya'll watch him!!!!! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

RAGEman
12-20-2002, 02:49 PM
Ha ha ha...yeah, I trust Bob...about as far as I can throw him, at least. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

I'll keep an eye on him for sure. Sneaky Ford guys. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Bob Cosby
12-20-2002, 02:57 PM
All BS aside...honestly Joe, I simply wouldn't do it. This little race is for pride and bragging rights. I could cheat and get the bragging rights, but it wouldn't mean much to me. And that's what I'm racing for...me.

Class racing (NMRA) is different. As far as the top guys go, if you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough. Those guys went off and left me for dead in 2002, and the latter half of 2001 even. Through the whole time, I only had one quasi-legal part on the car...and it was external to the motor (don't wish to say what), and most certainly is a bolt-on that fits into the scope of our little race. Had I of raced F/S in 2003...well...some things would have been different.

I'd prefer to "embarrass" my LS1 brethren in honest, open competition - and intend to do so. So Rageman and 01-Z, when I whoop your 360 RWHP ass, you'll know I've done it in good faith.

<img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />

<small>[ December 20, 2002, 02:58 PM: Message edited by: Bob Cosby ]</small>

RAGEman
12-20-2002, 03:20 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bob Cosby:
<strong>I'd prefer to "embarrass" my LS1 brethren in honest, open competition - and intend to do so. So Rageman and 01-Z, when I whoop your 360 RWHP ass, you'll know I've done it in good faith.

<img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don't count your chickens, pal.

Bob Cosby
12-20-2002, 03:35 PM
Sung to your favorite kiddie song...

One little two little three little Rageman's.... four little five little six little 01-Z's....seven little eight little.........

<img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" />

Guido
12-20-2002, 04:02 PM
lol!

Someone pass the popcorn! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Joe Kizzire
12-20-2002, 07:33 PM
I'll get the beer!!!

Bob I'll come watch if you promuse to leave that ugly ass straw hat at the house!!! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

Skelton
12-20-2002, 07:56 PM
Good point Joe but I believe thier are still some honest people out there. If I came with a motor like that I would expect 10.90's no sweat. Hell I would just like some stiffer valve springs and hardened push rods <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Hopefully we all will be legit <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Joe Kizzire
12-21-2002, 12:38 AM
Where do I start. I take the stock long block I got from my local Chevy dealer and compleatly disassemble it. Next I square the deck and align hone the block.... Then I order me a set of superlight piston with titanium pins, hone the cylinder walls to a mirrow finish for a set of super low tension .043 rings... Maybe do a little cutting on the crank to lighten it...
Next I get me some stock heads and angle mill the hell out of them to get me about 12 to 1 compression... do a nice neat three angle valve job which by the way is how many angles a stock valve job has... it's amazing what a good head my can do for flow with seat widths. Cams... it wide open depending on how the checking is going to be done... the old vacume gauge thing leaves a lot of room for inovation.

Bob if I've left any thing out, other than a stock DOHC 4.6 will turn 7500 rpm effortlessly, Let me know <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Yall watch Bob and remember... The more rules you have the easier it is to cheat!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

Guido
12-21-2002, 12:42 AM
lol @ joe! Always stirring the pot keeping it exciting!

Terry Burger
12-21-2002, 12:54 AM
That's why all winners are subject to teardown. If something illegal is found the owner is SOL, if everything is legal the guy who requested the teardown pays!

WILWAXU
12-21-2002, 08:58 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Joe Kizzire:
<strong>I'll get the beer!!!

Bob I'll come watch if you promuse to leave that ugly ass straw hat at the house!!! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ROTFLMAO!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

I'm with you on that <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

<small>[ December 21, 2002, 08:58 AM: Message edited by: WILWAXU ]</small>

Guido
12-21-2002, 09:24 AM
Woulb bob be bob without the straw hat though? LOL

VipZ28
12-21-2002, 10:38 AM
Joe,
After some serious talking with in the know sources, we have decided that despite your quote from Thunder, "These batteries are kinda like my balls boys, They's dead!", you need to get laid and mellow out a little <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Have a nice Day.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Joe Kizzire
12-21-2002, 04:31 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VipZ28:
<strong>Joe,
After some serious talking with in the know sources, we have decided that despite your quote from Thunder, "These batteries are kinda like my balls boys, They's dead!", you need to get laid and mellow out a little <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Have a nice Day.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Me mellow out.... never!!!! Somebody's got to be around to throw the bullshit flag and if I say so myself I do it with impunity. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

<small>[ December 21, 2002, 04:32 PM: Message edited by: Joe Kizzire ]</small>

sited12
12-21-2002, 11:13 PM
People keep saying its only for bragging rights. Well why are you building an engine. Ok you can say its for money but you will spend more money on the engine than you will ever win with it. Only person that can ever come ahead with building a race car is coach and thats cause i saw the video of his car with about 100000 contingency stickers on it. I think it was Coach's car. I would really like to see what the finished product is and see it run and learn all the specs.