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Old 03-29-2003, 12:09 AM
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Default 1.4 60' possible with this????

I'm awaiting an FLP level IV and a VIG 3600(unless I can figure out which Yank converter would work better) and a NX 150 shot out the gate. I want to spray the car on the stall and then flash the converter... if I can. I have never driven a converter car before(besides my little street car I'm trying to work on which has a TCI 3500 and it was behind a big block and it spun way to bad to try to flash it). I know I will be risking a rear end doing this but I'll take a chance.

Right now I have the stock suspension under the car and I plan on adding some subframe connectors, control arms, relocation brackets, maybe a panhard rod, and possibly a torque arm later on.

I was thinking I could do it on nitrous b/c I have seen some people run 1.5's with nittos and I'll probably through some slicks on.

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Default Re: 1.4 60' possible with this????

with a set of slicks and botting it right outta the hole yeah its possible

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im aiming for a 1.49 without n20 or heads <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

but the question is.. will my rear let me. Your's isnt gonna like a dead hook on a 150 shot off the line and that vig3600 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Default Re: 1.4 60' possible with this????

Josh, I think you should seriously consider the yank SS3600 or SS3800. Neither will need to be locked up, and both will work well on the gas and N/A. I had a vig 3600 and its a good convertor, but I think you will be able to go quicker with the ss3800 (especially on the gas). I just saw one in the FS section for 500 bucks.


You are making a great choice with the flp tranny. Make sure you run a big tranny cooler.


You shouldnt need an aftermarket panhard bar unless your rearend is not centered. Otherwise there is no performance to be had. I also think your setup will work fine on the stock torque arm. Plenty of people with A4's at the power levels ranging from bolt-on to H/C-nitrous setups have no problems with the stock torque arm.

I think you can get a 1.4x out of this setup as long as you have the tire.
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Default Re: 1.4 60' possible with this????

If you can hook it you might get a 1.4 but I don't think you can hook that combo out of the hole consistently that PI3600 will go almost to 5 grand on the can...
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Default Re: 1.4 60' possible with this????

Mike... What could be the possible difference of the SS3600 and the Vig 3600.... time wise. If I'm looking at a tenth or two quicker on motor I would definatly like that better. I can go without the nitrous part. I really looking for a n/a converter that will in turn work good on nitrous also.

I'm gunna look for that thread, I saw it the other day but I kinda overlooked it.

PSJ... I don't expect to be making any 1.4's with that set up untill they have a BIG race at the track and its prepped really good. I wish I knew of some good great tracks around. My local track is about the best hooking track in the state and its not very good sometimes.

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Default Re: 1.4 60' possible with this????

Just a heads up, i wanted to mention that if u plan on doing this with a head/cam/nitrous setup think again. a vig3600 and a bottle are ok on a bolt-on car..once you do H/C forget about it..it flashes way too high.

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Bad..... I hate to go contradict your word but I have a freind, also a member of this board...fastlif, who runs the same converter with a MTI h/c set up and nitrous and his car runs GOOD with it. He even changed to a Yank converter, I can't remember which one it was but it was a 4200 and the car slowed down on motor but picked up on nitrous. Thats why I am scared to pick a Yank Converter b/c it might limit my N/A and help my nitrous runs but I WANT more performance N/A than on nitrous.( I would like one that is about equal both ways not hendering either and the Vig seems to be like that)

I have been a BIG Yank for a while though.

Mike... I checked the classifieds and that converter was a ST3800 instead of an SS series. I was praying it was an SS series though.

Anyone else wanna tip in?

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by badass 2002 z28:
<strong> Just a heads up, i wanted to mention that if u plan on doing this with a head/cam/nitrous setup think again. a vig3600 and a bottle are ok on a bolt-on car..once you do H/C forget about it..it flashes way too high.

good luck </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i thought it was bassackwards from that??? Mine hated N20 with my vig3600 because it stalled to high with the stock revlimit to make any power on spray. Thats why i sold my TNT kit.
Now with heads cam, you can rev the motor higher and spray. Thats where you a decent stall

i dont see where the yanks are much more efficent anymore. I see more 4000-4400 yank verters trapping 116 cam only. Hell i trapped 117 with my vig3600, 3.23's, and a unlock converter so i know they arent any worse than the yanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

just looks to me that most people skipped from a 2800vig to a yank 4000 or so instead of trying the vig3600. Thats why you see more yank cars running quicker ET's <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />

if you want awesome NA times stick with the vig.. the yanks are good though for spray cause they can be made for juice <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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Default Re: 1.4 60' possible with this????

a vig3600 is a good NA converter..i never said it worked great with nitrous i just said it would be "ok"

If i were to spray i'd use a vig3200 or something like a yank SS3600 or a PYE3600

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MTI put my set-up together. They like the Vig 3200 for street use and track with spray. When I spray it flashes like a 3800 or so stall. I`m still learning how to stall her at the track. I`m a newbie!! My pills are 3200-6000 I don`t spray through shifts! On nitto`s I could only cut 1.7 N/A and 1.9 on spray. I have way to much power for the nitto`s! Boy what a problem <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I just got me some E/T`s and rims. So this should help. By the way my race weight was 3855lbs. Way to heavy!!
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Default Re: 1.4 60' possible with this????

You guys have me leaning toward the Vig now. DAMNIT I can't make up my mind!!!!!

I hope it doesn't come down to a financial decision( I am gunna have to order the transmission and pay the core charge on it and I'll be damned the money I was gunna use for the converter will be used to the core for now).


Either way I prefer not to pay over 600 bucks for a converter(which a vig is 650 new) but that would be a new converter where a yank would be almost a 1K.

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Default Re: 1.4 60' possible with this????

Well FWIW he is my set up. I am running the FLP tranny (love it) Yank SS3800 (love it too), H/C and a 100 shot. In Arizona heat (at least mid 80's on the passes) bad DA and not the best track in the world, I cut multiple 1.54-1.55s on 10.5x26 et drags 3800lbs race wieght. So yes I think 1.4s are possible, That is my goal next week at the spring break shoot out. If it helps you make up your mind I think the SS3800 is a great converter, Spray and NA. BTW this is my ONLY car so it is daily driven, and will be driven to Texas next week, 1000+ miles from Phoenix. I'll still get 21+ MPG with the Yank, I have nothing bad to say about it, Just wish I would of bought this one in the first time around.
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TTT. I might have found a SS3800... waiting on mail to see if he is gettin rid of it.

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Default Re: 1.4 60' possible with this????

Look in the sig, you can cut some good times with the FLP, Vig 3600, HC. I didn't even spray a 150 shot, more like a 125. The convertor did not flash too high, up to about 4500.

I've only got about 8 runs on the setup, but has worked great so far.

I'm selling the FLP and the Vig when the motor gets back. I'm going with a 400T.

I dont think your rear end will hold up to a shot like that, out of the hole. You are not going to cut a 1.4 60' unless you spray out of the hole. You better have an upgraded rear end for that.




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