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Can a dying starter mimick the scenario of having a low to dead battery?

My charging system is fine, had it checked, battery is fine, as well as the alternator.

I get the symptom that the starter is having a very hard time trying to start the car after say;

I am driving for about 30 minutes, stop at a store, shut it down, go in for a few minutes and come back out and try to start it I'll get the slow lugging sound as if the battery were very low. My question is, will excess heat (from the engine being ran for so long and 80+*F temps outside) on a starter that's heading out reproduce the symptom like this?

Thanks.

Mike K.

When mine went it did start slowing down but I thought it was just having a hard time with the new motors compression etc. Turns out it went bad a couple weeks later.

Once it did go all I heard was a whirring sound when I turned the key. But mine was slow everytime not just some of the time like you are saying. Definatly heat can get to the starter which is why they come with the heat sheild though. You can probably find a new starter with a lifetime warranty for about 80 bucks though if you want to experiment.

Scalpel

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Thanks for the info, Mike.

I'll keep an eye on it. I'll check it out this weekend. BTW, what starter did you get?

Z28Venom

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You're describing exactly how my starter acted before it took a dump.

First thing in the morning it would start like a champ, but after short drives. It would turn over forever before it actually caught and started the car..

Time for a new starter.

Scalpel

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What starter did you replace it with?

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Do any of the high torque starters in Jeg's work? Also, do they have a long term life?

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Here's the one I'm going to get from Jegs: 713-9509

Powermaster XS Torque 200 Ft. Lb. Starter Chevy/ Pontiac LS1/LS6 4.85.36.0L Trucks- Natural HIGHEST TORQUE Most Efficient No Heat Soak Problems Clears All Headers Clears Oil Pans Where OE Starter Will Work Billet Aluminum Adapter Block 4.4:1 Gear Reduction Ratio Cranking Power For up to 18:1 Compression Mounting Bolts Included Dyno Test Results Included Weight: 8.0 lbs. Starters & Alternators > Chevy LS1& Truck 4.8L-5.3L-6.0L Starters

$206 + shipping

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I ordered it, came to $215.xx. Cheapest I could find anywhere and it'll be here very shortly. Should be a pimp *** unit. I'll snap some pics when it gets here.

JimMueller

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Ooh, I've been thinking about replacing mine but haven't seen much so far as high-torque starters. Make sure you follow up on the results!

Scalpel

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It should be here Thursday and installed then, too.

Squintz Palladoris

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Cool, I didnt know anyone was makin one of these yet.
Thanks for th part number Cannibal!

Brad

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Not a problem. This unit looks like it'll be impressive. Should have no problem cranking over 11.25:1

It's also not that much more expensive than a rebuilt OEM unit from AdvanceAutoParts so why not get a much more impressive and well built unit. The OEM one was not designed to crank against this much compression, at least not for long periods of time

Scalpel

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Here's a pic of the unit from their site:

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Well, ****. They're on backorder with Jegs. Same with SummitRacing. They don't have an expected ship date, either. Hmmm.

Scalpel

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I spoke with Powermaster directly and they told me the starters should be arriving at Jegs and SummitRacing in the next few weeks. I'll hold out till' then. These units are 100X better than stock.

theblur98ss

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Dammit I need one pronto. That's a badass looking starter. I wonder how many horses it will add hehe.

theblur98ss

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Have you heard anymore on when the starter will be available? My starter is almost dead and I'm afraid to drive anywhere. What's up with the dyno sheets coming with the starter?

Squintz Palladoris

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I wonder if these sound cool like the race starters for SBC n BBC. That would be cool. I would replace mine just for that.

Brad

SXS

I've got a Tilton Superstarter in mine, and they sound like hell on fire, just like a race car starting up, 'scratch - nano-screech and bang!'.... hehe
But being lightweight high geared - they werent designed for starting up more than a handfull of times a day.... they do fall apart when too vibration gets to them.... heat not really an issue...

Good luck - but trust me, these Power XS and Tiltons last even shorter than OEM!

Now what would be a nice thing, is a direct-crank-drive-starter... hehe

Scalpel

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Why would the Powermaster XS die quicker? They don't use plastic planetary gears like the OEM unit, the solenoid is mounted away from heat as opposed to being encased with the starter like the OEM, etc.

It should last much longer than an OEM unit. Powermaster told me their XS should far outlast any OEM unit.