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Old 09-14-2004, 05:32 PM
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Default "Real Time" LS1 tuning for the US Market.

We have decided to open this up for the US market.


Some info here.

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=28438

We welcome any inquires.

Edit: ok link back in, concensus was that since this is a product that is not yet available, it'll be useful info for the community as a whole...

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HOt damn this could revolutionize the market. I suspect this link wont last to long though
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Must....receive...link in a PM. LOL. I would like to see it.
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I wonder if it is the software/piggy pcm back a friend of mine has. He is an accel distributor and has the only one I know of. It modifies some signals/tables from the stock pcm as well as has it's own tables on some things. I know it is boost/nos accepting as well... and the big one was it could be tuned in real time like DFI. This was supposed to be big in Australia... so I guess this is it. For some reason I can remember the freaken name of it though.
Either way I want a PM about it
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i'd like a link too if possible
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Originally Posted by TripleBlackRamAirT/A
i'd like a link too if possible
If you need to know I found some info on it. By the looks of it from the pics and specs it is similar to a standalone but it fits between the PCM and firewall. It does allow realtime editting datalogging etc... The price I could not find.

Here are the specs that I found so far.

Interface: Ethernet RJ45 (10 Mbps)

Features
- Changing Data Parameters IMMEDIATELY in Real Time without nasty ECM hiccups (ie. restarts)
- Upload/Download ENTIRE Data/Parameter in just under 2 seconds
- High Speed Data Logging - 700 PIDs at 40 frames per second
- Download ENTIRE PCM (Program/Data) in just 10 seconds (Yes, all those 4194304 bits)
- Upload ENTIRE PCM (Program/Data) in 20 seconds (Verifies Program by re-downloading, so PCMs doesn't die on you)
- No more time consuming re-replacing of the PCM to reprogram

Capabilities
- Uses the highly popular TCP/IP protocol. Yes, your car even gets its own IP!
- Wireless connection possible using Wireless Access Points/Bridge (Feel like datalogging from the grandstand?)
- Even tune a car over the Internet!
- View your car's status via a webpage. (RPM, Coolant, Temp etc.)

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I commented on that wireless part in another forum. Could be bad. You could end up with:
1) Fried PCM? (depending on how that thing works)
2) Being hacked. Right before a race would particularly suck.
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Originally Posted by Another_User
I commented on that wireless part in another forum. Could be bad. You could end up with:
1) Fried PCM? (depending on how that thing works)
2) Being hacked. Right before a race would particularly suck.

Would be funny to need a Firewall at a dragstrip lol
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Could someone PM me with the link to this product.
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TTT , put the link back in, consensus was that since this product is not out yet, education about it is good for the community...
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Originally Posted by horist
TTT , put the link back in, consensus was that since this product is not out yet, education about it is good for the community...
Thank you!

The Aussies are amazing!!!
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Just some quick answers before I have a bite to eat.

Wireless Link is optional. Its based on TCP/IP, so anything goes. As far as anybody hacking into your PCM, that's about as secure as your Wireless Network. Currently there is WEP (Wireless Encryption Protocol), as well as using different channels, hiding your SSID etc.

The specialised computer is only used for tuning/develpment. Once the computer program has been finalised, it is reflashed back into the customer's PCM.

The computer system isn't a piggy bank system. Its a modified version of the standard LS1 Computer.

The method of changing the computer has its own error protection so errors are highly unlikely.
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interesting.

I challenge it to be offered for the 1998 as well

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Looks very much like the direct link that it used on the Turbo buicks and Grand Nationals as far as the scanning. Taps directly in instead of into the diagnostic port so faster scan rates. To bad pretty much a tuner option, although you can do everything with current setups just takes a little longer.

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What would be really nice about it would be to hook your pcm through the internet and have someone in another state tuning your car while on the dyno.
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Old 09-16-2004, 07:03 PM
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Default Internet "Real Time" tuning is reality

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What would be really nice about it would be to hook your pcm through the internet and have someone in another state tuning your car while on the dyno.
Our package is capable of doing this although the specialised modified PCM would have to be installed in the target car. Although the technology is capable of doing this, I imagine most people would want to be present while a car is being tuned.
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If you are going to that much trouble it ought to have a "self-tune" mode that monitors trims and dynamically adjusts the static tables. Then you could turn off "self-tune" once everything stabilizes.

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When? How much?
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Old 09-24-2004, 02:38 AM
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Default "Real Time" LS1 (RTLS1) Has WB AFR input at PCM

Originally Posted by Another_User
If you are going to that much trouble it ought to have a "self-tune" mode that monitors trims and dynamically adjusts the static tables. Then you could turn off "self-tune" once everything stabilizes.
We can easily incorporate "self-tune" as the PCM has its own WB A/R input socket which is processed by the PCM and is logged along with all the other Pids at 40 fps. WB A/F input to PCM is a 0 - 5 Volt signal so we can cater for many different brands of WB A/F Lamba meters.
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Originally Posted by TPY2KWS6
When? How much?
Good questions.

Hardware is ready. Software steadily coming along.

Price for single users will be a little more than LS1edit.

Gains in performance cannot be compared with any other LS1 tuning tool.

Its ease of operation is similar to Motec or DFI.
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