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Old 04-20-2003, 09:46 PM
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For 11.99 and faster? If not, which I don't really think it is, how about a 5 point? I'm trying to decide which cage to get, and was just wondering. I can't seem to find a factual answer on this issue.
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4pt is not legal for nhra or ihra.
You need at least a 5pt bar.
I went with a 8pt,and have both door bars,if i have to climb over a bar,so does the passenger.
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The go carts I was riding in Friday night didnt have a cage, but you wouldnt know that CAUSE YOU DIDNT SHOW UP <img border="0" alt="[punch]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" />
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5 point bar will keep you legal to 10 flat in nhra provided two things:
1-not a convertible
2-floorpan in front of the rear seat and firewall are not altered.

Granted a 6 point bar is better for tying the frame together, but my Nova will get a 5-point as I already have frame connectors.

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Thanks Derek, that's what I needed to know <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Are swingouts on a 6 point NHRA legal

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Are swingouts on a 6 point NHRA legal

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if done correctly see pge 210 in 03 rulebook [nhra]
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Wow, haven't seen this one in a while
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I bring the old posts back up to show I tried searching

LOnSLO I guess the answer to your initial post was no, it has to be a 5 point? Is that correct?

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lemme ask this question

is a wolf bolt in 6 pt legal
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Originally Posted by Tally TransAm
lemme ask this question

is a wolf bolt in 6 pt legal

yes if its the one with the side bars between your shoulder and elbow and if its bolted on with plates on top of and under floor pan [and its not a bolt together bar-the bar must be a weld together] or if plates are welded to FLOORS, bob

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what does a 4 poiny look like?
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For 11.99 and faster? If not, which I don't really think it is, how about a 5 point? I'm trying to decide which cage to get, and was just wondering. I can't seem to find a factual answer on this issue.
heres a paragraph i made for the fast ls1 site [it is also post in ls1 tech a few times as people asked ] alot of people are useing the wrong terminoligy] ,a cage is a cage and a roll bar is a roll bar[a roll bar can have 5pts being the min, 6pts 7pts and8 pts,a cage can have 6 pt ,8,10 12pts] a lot of people call up for cages and their trying to ask for roll bars its a common mistake
,most cages are actualy are 6pt unless 2 diagnal bars go to tunnel or frame connectors[before everyone jumps on me the 2 side bars usually go to the front uprights so unless you have the 2 diags like i said and they are mandatory when a cage is put on plates[pge 209 of rule book see diag. read D] if its a chassis car[ ie chevelle,malibu,corvetteanything with a full frame under it]the cage then has to be mounted to the chassis and dosnt require the 2 diags to tunnel. what else is needed are ,a window net,padding anywhere drivers helmet can contact[pge 203], and the instaler should put tabs for required shoulder harness [so its bolted to spine bar and cannot slip off you in case of accident]and if you go faster than 9.99 a chassis cert that should cover the basics hope this helps. bob


the right way[ie legal] for the install is not on tubs,the back bars belong on floor preferably over rails .esp if you ever want to add to it ,the bare min is 5 pts ,for your application.
do it right the first time ,and you wont have to replace it later ie spend more money , if you ever have to add to it. bob
below some picts of rollbar and cage instals
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O.K., here's another question, the cage pic's that you have, the 2nd one shows what looks like the control ***** for teh windows hanging from the doors, does anyone make a cage that allows you to keep youe stock door interior, or does that have to come out? And if it does have to come out, what's everyone using for a replacement interior, or does teh stock one just get hacked up? Also, how do all the stock interior roof liners etc. end up back into the car...that's gotta be a trick.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
O.K., here's another question, the cage pic's that you have, the 2nd one shows what looks like the control ***** for teh windows hanging from the doors, does anyone make a cage that allows you to keep youe stock door interior, or does that have to come out? And if it does have to come out, what's everyone using for a replacement interior, or does teh stock one just get hacked up? Also, how do all the stock interior roof liners etc. end up back into the car...that's gotta be a trick.

no the interior does not have to come out except to do the work,
that car had the door panels out ,before it got here he had to put them back so we could get around panels,[he just didnt hook things up]heres some picts of a formula .the interior does not get hacked up
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
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ther question, the cage pic's that you have, the 2nd one shows what looks like the control ***** for teh windows hanging from the doors, does anyone make a cage that allows you to keep youe stock door interior, or does that have to come out? And if it does have to come out, what's everyone using for a replacement interior, or does teh stock one just get hacked up? Also, how do all the stock interior roof liners etc. end up back into the car...that's gotta be a trick.

heres a few more
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