Drag Racing Tech - Lets see your Towing Setups!

Anyone else here buy a truck and trailer before their race vehicle? Okay, so I'm a little backwards and bought the cart before the horse. :)

The truck is a 2004.5 Ram, Cummins 600 diesel. I've had it almost three months now. I just picked up the 18' steel deck car hauler yesterday. I went with a more fancy looking one since this will be the last open car hauler I purchase so it will have to last a while. I'd like an enclosed hauler, but I couldn't store it at my house.

http://www.ls1tech.com/04Ram/trailer1.JPG

more photos:

http://www.ls1tech.com/04Ram/04Ram01.JPG
http://www.ls1tech.com/04Ram/04Ram02.JPG
http://www.ls1tech.com/04Ram/04Ram03.JPG
http://www.ls1tech.com/04Ram/04Ram06.JPG
http://www.ls1tech.com/04Ram/04Ram07.JPG
http://www.ls1tech.com/04Ram/trailer2.JPG
http://www.ls1tech.com/04Ram/trailer3.JPG

I'll be using this setup for the first time to haul the '69 to Atlanta for the Year One Commerce Challenge event, where it will be it's official debut. Can't wait!

shopping for an LS1 drag car next....

Tony

That truck is a beauty.

Wow, that is a nice setup! I'd like to pickup a pickup and trailer a few years down the road to tow. I have a couple questions tho:

- What's a ballpark figure for the cost of an open air trailer similar to that?
- How much does it weigh?
- And I've always wondered, how the heck do you get a car that broke back on the trailer???

:)

you push it back on, had to do it a few times with some cars in the past:)

we just bought a 26' enclosed. we did the open trailor deal for some time and it just was so annoying. but then again it took me a bit to save up for one, but wow am i glad i got one. we have a 2003 duramax 2500HD to pull it. i gots to get some pics for it. trailor is sitting at FMS right now lol. also it is a pain to store it (pay for storage) but when you hit that winch to pull the car up on the trailor, oh yea. it was worth it!

tony, i think you got some overkill with your rig for that setup. but nothing beats tq to pull that sucker at fast highway speeds, esp if you want ot get home.

we should be hitting up atlanta so it would be cool if we could park by each other and share a few brews!

to answer the questions, yea if it breaks, you better find some buddies! that is where a winch really is nice or required. esp a remote controled one. an open trailor like that one can weigh from 1500-1800 lbs. an enclosed totally depends on what is inside it (cabnets, fridge for the beer, tools, etc. but our 26' weighs only 3800 lbs empty. it is an empty box. you can have car trailors that weigh 4500 lbs the same size. costs - well like a lot of things, it depends on what you want to spend and how much truck you have to pull it. 1500 bucks - 10K - unlimited

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040917/040917_cxt_hmed_5a.hmedium.jpg

This might be my new rig. I have to see if the 0.0% financing available first. :devil:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6026041/

Tony, PM me some sponsorship info. I'm a salesman up here in Milwaukee at a chevy store and would love to hook some LS1tech members up if they were looking for some new haulers and willing to travel a bit. Could even pick up at airport that's right down the road :)

PS- also have a Ford store that's part of the 3 store chain (Chevy, Chrysler/Jeep, and Ford)

Damn sweet. Dodge towing is the best. ;) gobs of torque.

Dodge ram 1500 5.7L hemi, 20ft hydraulic tilt trailer,4000 pound marine winch and 10,000 weight distribution package. And found a place to put all my stickers.

http://photos.imageevent.com/lastws6/10pointcage/websize/parts%20003.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/lastws6/newtowrig/websize/trailer1%20002.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/lastws6/newtowrig/websize/newtire%20016.jpg

http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/pics/idd/rv1.jpg
http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/pics/idd/rv8.jpg

Wow, that is a nice setup! I'd like to pickup a pickup and trailer a few years down the road to tow. I have a couple questions tho:

- What's a ballpark figure for the cost of an open air trailer similar to that?
- How much does it weigh?
- And I've always wondered, how the heck do you get a car that broke back on the trailer???

:)

Trailer prices vary. You can get their basic 18' (2' dovetail) steel deck open hauler for $1895 plus ttl. The rock guard up front was a $250 option. I went with their more deluxe trailer though, it just looks more fancy with its walkaround polished diamond plate step and recessed tow hooks. It was $2250 plus the rock guard. After taxes, $2750 out the door.

I ordered a Superwinch (2300 lb pulling rated) today to bolt to the front of the trailer deck. I also ordered the optional trailer wiring harness kit which is pretty cool. Comes with 19' of heavy gauge wiring and a quick disconnect that you pre-wire onto your truck with the quick disconnect mounted to the underside of the rear bumper. If your car is broken, you just plug it in and pull the sucker up onto the trailer. Total price on the winch/harness was around $300. If you don't have a winch, it takes about 3 normal sized guys to push a car up onto the trailer easily.

well I think I win for the sexyest truck! Cadillac Escalade EXT, 22" b/c of towing no 24" and 3 tvs, nav, speakers you name it I got it! The only thing it doesn't have is good gas mileage. Looking for a 28' inclosed trailer in white but will take 3 months to build custom so will buy in December after taxes. :chug:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/130204704/165530825PuIIJz

Trailer prices vary. You can get their basic 18' (2' dovetail) steel deck open hauler for $1895 plus ttl. The rock guard up front was a $250 option.

Tony that rock guard was a good idea with the dually. I have a hyd. tilt open trailer (no ramps) and was thinking of fabbing it up for mine. The thing I hate about my open trailer is when you run through rain the car gets nasty as hell.
I really want an enclosed trailer though. Gold Rush builds some very nice aluminum enclosed trailers but they are real pricey. They run about a $1000 a foot but are very light and they hold their value well.

wow, you guys make us look bad. Our tow vehicle is a 95 Chvey Pickup with over 150k miles and the trailer is a used trailer we picked up from Tony a while back for under $1k. We recently got new wheels and tires for it and replaced the floor boards too since one fianlly broke when my step-dad was loading up his nice 80's Malibu. :thumbsdow

Hey Linda, aren't those wheels in the pic the old ones? What did you put on it?

New & Old setup...in order.

Have no place to put anything so I had to go small and light. Trailer only weighs 1300lbs has 4 wheel brakes and a 4' dovetail with 6' ramps and the car goes right on without even jacking up the tongue. Plus the fenders come off in 20 seconds but C5 and F-body doors clear with them on. Nice trailer..

Been towing with an '03 Durango with factory tow package and 3.90 axles and so far so good. Little more light duty then I'd like but it fits in the garage, gets 11mpg towing (17 not towing) and handles fine - the trailer has great brakes and that really helps. For occasional use it works out well, I have put 30K on the truck in less then a year, 15K towing, and it isnt falling apart yet :D

well I think I win for the sexyest truck! Cadillac Escalade EXT, 22" b/c of towing no 24" and 3 tvs, nav, speakers you name it I got it! The only thing it doesn't have is good gas mileage. Looking for a 28' inclosed trailer in white but will take 3 months to build custom so will buy in December after taxes. :chug:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/130204704/165530825PuIIJz

wow tell me you arent gonna pull a 28' enclosed and car loaded with that Caddy pickup?!? talk about being overloaded!

Yeah, better check that weight towing capacity on the 'Sclade compared to the trailer, vehicle weight.

Gator, what is overkill? :jest: This truck will still be suitable for my next trailer ;)

After having 2 street/strips cars (neither with overdrive) I finally got a pick-up this April, an '04 GMC Sierra 1500 ext cab 5.3L 3.73 geared. Bought an open trailer from a bud (GeorgeC) and the Nova has now been towed to the track once after years of driving and swapping tires. I'm getting some experience for my tow to Atlanta next month for the et finals. And to think I drove the Nova there in 2001 (6-1/2 hours each way, about 400 miles and 3500 rpm's) :eek2: I'll have pictures soon on the complete set-up, meanwhile, here's a link to the truck pics: http://community.webshots.com/album/142012841GVSTCJ

Derek

I ran the numbers with those wheels on it I will work. And if not I will build a bigger motor, I was looking for a reason to upgrade say turbo or all motor 427ci! :devil:

my rides. don't have great pic of the whole rig.

http://mofbody.com/john/DSC02676s.JPG
http://mofbody.com/john/DSC02647.JPG

I tow with a 03 2500HD 4x4 crewcab Dmax/Ally.Trailer is a 2004 44 ft Eagle tri axle gooseneck.I weigh 16,500 empty with the truck and trailer combined.I can put two cars in it and run 70 mph and get 11 mpg doing it.The 44 foot goose tows WAY better than my old 28 foot tag.The only negative I see is it takes a lot of space to turn around and filling the truck up with the trailer attached limits you to truck stops only.I'm 60 ft long overall with the truck & trailer.I know why people put auxiliary tanks in the beds of their trucks now.

I ran the numbers with those wheels on it I will work. And if not I will build a bigger motor, I was looking for a reason to upgrade say turbo or all motor 427ci! :devil:

towing safely has virtually nothing to do with cubes, horsepower, and tq really. it is the suspension mostly and brakes. you will experience the death wobble/ trailor sway. :bang:

Well, I have a duramax do to the haulin' but I've got no trailer, so the car gets driven to the track instead :)

Hey Linda, aren't those wheels in the pic the old ones? What did you put on it?
Yeah, those are the old ones. We now have the basic wheels that most trailers have, the wite wheels with the holes/triangles in them. Only problem is the new setup is taller so we had to modify the fender :( so I will have to practice getting out of the window or the hatch :P

Well, I have a duramax do to the haulin' but I've got no trailer, so the car gets driven to the track instead :)
Yeah, I always drive my car out to the local track, we got the trailer mainly for traveling to the events.

my rides. don't have great pic of the whole rig.

http://mofbody.com/john/DSC02676s.JPG
http://mofbody.com/john/DSC02647.JPG
That is one nice setup you have there :cool:

thanks Cain! just got a cam, e-fans, tranny cooler installed in the truck this weekend. need/want to tow at 80 comfortably and run 13's :cool:

don't have pics of the assembled rig...but have pics of the pieces ;)

18' full diamond plate floor trailer
2004 2500LD truck (6.0L)

http://home.comcast.net/~bkrzewinski/trailer/front.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~bkrzewinski/truck/front.jpg

Here is our setup with a custom 16' trailer

http://www.jenibellaracing.com/Pictures/tow-trailer.JPG

http://www.jenibellaracing.com/Pictures/lacr-01.JPG

http://www.jenibellaracing.com/Pictures/lacr-02.JPG

What kind of electric brake controllers are you guys using :secret: I may be able to help everybody out in that department.

What kind of electric brake controllers are you guys using :secret: I may be able to help everybody out in that department.

My trailer has E-brakes, but I do not currently have one. What do you have?

My trailer has E-brakes, but I do not currently have one. What do you have?

I work as a project engineer for a company that builds electric brake controllers. I'm currently developing a controller that uses an accelerometer to proportionally apply your trailer brakes in sequence with your tow vehicle. I need some people to run "mule" units. PM me if your interested.

What kind of electric brake controllers are you guys using :secret: I may be able to help everybody out in that department.

Gomer, I need a new controller BAD. Mine is a circa-'76 model that either hits HARD or practically not at all. :( PM me with some details!

I work as a project engineer for a company that builds electric brake controllers. I'm currently developing a controller that uses an accelerometer to proportionally apply your trailer brakes in sequence with your tow vehicle. I need some people to run "mule" units. PM me if your interested.

Sent you a PM. :judge:

Here are some pics of the trailer.

http://j.cz28.com/trailer1.jpg
http://j.cz28.com/trailer2.jpg
http://j.cz28.com/trailer3.jpg

Custom made by myself. I am very happy with how it turned out, but spent more $ and time on it than expected. Tow with a 99 Yukon 3.73's and 112k miles....

'J
http://j.cz28.com
jman812@hotmail.com

J98 that's a slick setup man, impressive for home built

J98, nice rig man! really well thought out. esp the box with teh winch built in. i cant believe guys dont buy them.

that really is nice J.....i'd buy one if you'd trust your work with your own car.

Dave

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040917/040917_cxt_hmed_5a.hmedium.jpg

This might be my new rig. I have to see if the 0.0% financing available first. :devil:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6026041/


:lol: Thats halarious, I can just see you pulling up in the BIG RIG.

As soon as I finally get the new motor in my car, its tow vehicle time.

05 GMC 2500HD Extended Cab 4X4 w/Duramax and an H&H 20' x 8.5' EX Speedloader deck trailer. Black truck, black trailer, black Camaro. :cool:

Here are some pics of the trailer.

http://j.cz28.com/trailer1.jpg
http://j.cz28.com/trailer2.jpg
http://j.cz28.com/trailer3.jpg

Custom made by myself. I am very happy with how it turned out, but spent more $ and time on it than expected. Tow with a 99 Yukon 3.73's and 112k miles....

'J
http://j.cz28.com
jman812@hotmail.com


That thing is very purty :cheers:

Thanks for the compliments Guys !

As for selling them, I do not believe there would be many people willing to dish out that kind of money to make it worthwhile for me. I have more $ in materials than most half-decent trailers cost complete.....But it does have a winch, batt, etc. I think I went overboard, but it really works well for what I use it for. I have approx 2500mi on it this year with my car on it, and no problems so far. Even had an Impala SS on it for a trip. I made long ramps ~75in that slide out the back on nylon, that helps for my low car loading. It is pretty quick and easy. No tilt, but it does rock with the weight when I drive the car on. Removeable fenders for opening door on trailer (again my car sits pretty low).

I plan to be at Cedar falls, IA. this sat, and Tri-state on Sun. Be sure to say hello if anybody is there.

'J 98ta
jman812@hotmail.com

BTW: I am looking for some cheap aluminum rims for it. 15 x 6-7" 5 on 4 1/2". E-mail if anybody has anything.

As soon as I finally get the new motor in my car, its tow vehicle time.

05 GMC 2500HD Extended Cab 4X4 w/Duramax and an H&H 20' x 8.5' EX Speedloader deck trailer. Black truck, black trailer, black Camaro. :cool:


I've got the 18' H&H Speedloader tilt bed too and love it. My car won't go on a regular trailer with ramps unless it has like 10' ramps. With the tilt bed I can drive right on it.

http://www.hhtrailer.com/default.asp?page=emily

Here's my tow vehicle:

http://www.akmcables.com/AKMburb.jpe

(umm, not really :barf: )

http://www.akmcables.com/athome.jpg

Bought the 2500 Suburban 'cuz of the 4L80E, bigger brakes, and beefier suspension. It tows well. No way was I going to tow with a 4L60E tranny...

Here's what will be my tow rig when the Camaro is finished. It will only be used to haul to really long events, or when I'm going to be running slicks at the strip.

http://chevytruckworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/Ralph96TahoeSport/95142.jpg

If that doesn't work, here's the link to the image: http://chevytruckworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/Ralph96TahoeSport/95142.jpg

Mods in sig.

I'll post mine up. The trailer is an 18' Anderson, full diamond plate, brakes on all 4's, hide-a-way ramps, recessed tie-downs, blah, blah blah - $2100.

Used to have a Chevy Dually, but my Dodge drives so much nicer.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/464000-464999/464562_25_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/464000-464999/464562_24_full.jpg

I dont have pics, but my tow rig is a WHITE 03 2500 HD ex cab, 4x4 2" lift and some apperance mods, My tralior is a WHITE 22' enclosed US Cargo with some nice letering on it and striping, then my car Is a WHITE Z28 with all the good stuff. Then my Harley, oh yhea, thats WHITE to, and yes, my boat is aaaaaaaa, oh yhea WHITE!!!!!
my Next street toy will not be White, it will be the electron Blue Z06, so not white hehe

Quick question for you guys with low boy open trailers. Is their enough room for you to open the door and get out over a door bar. I went and looked at a couple tonight and my doors will deffinatly hit the fenders and I'm not sure if there's enough room to get out over a ddor bar. I'm not sure on the width but it was the widest open one they had, maybe 8-8.5' (just a guess).

well I think I win for the sexyest truck! Cadillac Escalade EXT, 22" b/c of towing no 24" and 3 tvs, nav, speakers you name it I got it! The only thing it doesn't have is good gas mileage. Looking for a 28' inclosed trailer in white but will take 3 months to build custom so will buy in December after taxes. :chug:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/130204704/165530825PuIIJz
You get a close 2nd. A Black Ext. is so much more sexier :) :jest: . Bought the black Ext. with the chrome rims to match my, Black and chrome car and black and chrome Imperial trailer. Pics soon. Nothing like the ass end of the truck to adjust too the weight by itself when you put the trailer on :hail: . Boy from ur sign it looks like we share the same taste in automobiles, and mods :devil: .

Quick question for you guys with low boy open trailers. Is their enough room for you to open the door and get out over a door bar. I went and looked at a couple tonight and my doors will deffinatly hit the fenders and I'm not sure if there's enough room to get out over a ddor bar. I'm not sure on the width but it was the widest open one they had, maybe 8-8.5' (just a guess).

I can. :drive: I do not have a door bar, but my car door can open completely. I made removeable fenders just for that purpose. I figured once on the trailer, I did not want to "Dukes of Hazzard" it all the time. If I winched it up, I would have no way of closing the window if I needed to steer at all pulling it up. 102" overall is the legal widest I believe, maybe different in some states. I am 81" for platform. I designed it with just enough room to get the door open with fender(s) off. I looked for the shortest tire with the load rating I needed, and made the trailer as low as I could. My car sits pretty low, especially with the y-pipe.

I would look for something you can get the doors open on. Much nicer. :)

'J

Quick question for you guys with low boy open trailers. Is their enough room for you to open the door and get out over a door bar. I went and looked at a couple tonight and my doors will deffinatly hit the fenders and I'm not sure if there's enough room to get out over a ddor bar. I'm not sure on the width but it was the widest open one they had, maybe 8-8.5' (just a guess).


I have the hyd. tilt 83" deck open trailer. With the 26" tires I would have to remove the fender to open the door. With 28" and taller it will clear without removing the fender.

TJ

I can clear the fender on mine, but I bought one with a real nice pinned/removable fender.

Different trailers have different fender heights. Measure the bottom of your door to the ground and then take your tape measure with you when you go trailer shopping. Just measure from the deck to the top of the fender on the trailer and compare it with your door height.

Removable fenders are usually an option for most trailers, if you custom order it.

That's a great idea, I never even thought of making a removable fender. I found a slightly used trailer that I like so I would have to rig up the fender myself. I'm not sure of the deck hieght but it's about the lowest open car trailer I have ever seen, which is the main reason that I like it. With the skinnies on the car my front airdam is about 2-3" off the ground.

Here's a video of my set up

http://sio.midco.net/davidb/camarosep1.wmv

David

I had access to this but my uncle sold it :(

its a freightliner limo cab with an allison tranny and put on full air ride... http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/453000-453999/453723_14_full.jpg

uses it to tow the 38' fountain boat usually but sold it for a dodge ram diesel

talk about being overloaded!

Hey you wanna talk overloaded? Here ya go. :)


http://www.thunderracing.com/users/matthew/trt.jpg

Thunder's trailer is awesome. How many cars can you put in there?

Geez, do you need a CDL to legally drive that thing? :jest:

Good god that trailer's f'n huge

now thats a tow rig :D

Thunder's trailer is awesome. How many cars can you put in there?


Thanks John. We can put 2 cars in it. Then pull them out at the track, kick on the A/Cs, and party down. :D


Paul

Geez, do you need a CDL to legally drive that thing? :jest:


Probably so. I weighted it on the Cat Scales on the way back from the Spring Break Shootout. Truck, trailer, 2 cars, 4 people, and all of the other crap that goes along with that came in at a little over 31,000 lbs. :eek2:

If and when I ever get pulled over I'm just going to play very stupid. :huh:


Paul

Thunder has the SICK set up!!!!!!
just need to rid the Ford and get a chevy!!!

Thunder has the SICK set up!!!!!!
just need to rid the Ford and get a chevy!!!


Thanks, and I will always race my Chevy's but for now I'll keep towing with my Ford. I've driven and towed with them all and I love my 6.0 Powerstroke the best. Well that is until '07 when Ford comes out with the 6.6 Twin Turbo. :)


Paul

my buddy has the 7.4 power stroke(i believe its 7.4, its the big one i know that for sure)
That thing is a TANK!!!!!!!!!! it dont plow for shit tho, my 2500 hd plows much beter, but towing his truck is sick, and being where you are, plowing dont matter much. hehe

my buddy has the 7.4 power stroke(i believe its 7.4, its the big one i know that for sure)
That thing is a TANK!!!!!!!!!! it dont plow for shit tho, my 2500 hd plows much beter, but towing his truck is sick, and being where you are, plowing dont matter much. hehe


No I don't do a lot of plowing down here. With 31K I can set my cruise on 75-78 mph and get about 8.5-9 mpg. That thing pulls like a mofo. :)


Paul

same as his, he has a 36' tag along, and cruz is set, it dont even down shift!!!

No pics yet but since this is the Drag Racing Forum I'll brign it back to the basics... ETs. :D

04 GMC Sierra 2500HD SLT, Onyx Black, Crew Cab SB, 4WD, Dmax LLY/Alli tranny and running the Edge/Attitude at Level 4.

The PB run in the approx. 7,200lbs truck is 1.91 60', 14.76sec at 89.26mph in Tow/Haul x4-drive.

Rick

Paul, if you ever think the DOT will give you a problem just make sure that the trailer is registered under somebodys personal name and then put "not for hire" somewhere on the sides & back to declare it for personal/pleasure use. I know several guys that do this to avoid having to get a CDL and other DOT issues. It's basicly the same reason that all these 85 year olds can drive around in there huge motorhomes without any special license. :)

My tow vehicle is in my sig 2003 escalade and the towing limit is 8900 lbs. I pull my car and steel trailor like it isnt even back there. Ill try to get a pic for you guys. well here is the pic and I tow with big pimp wheels on it also... :hump:

well I think I win for the sexyest truck! Cadillac Escalade EXT, 22" b/c of towing no 24" and 3 tvs, nav, speakers you name it I got it! The only thing it doesn't have is good gas mileage. Looking for a 28' inclosed trailer in white but will take 3 months to build custom so will buy in December after taxes. :chug:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/130204704/165530825PuIIJz

I think my escalade is sexier

Thats just the way thunder does things, they dont play around. In racing, making cams, or customer service.

okay I have a few shots now. If someone wants to host b/c webshots I can't direct link it for some reason :bang:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/142012841/202930495UOmcRa

http://community.webshots.com/photo/142012841/202932366GUYNYK

Derek

Shoulda got a ford f350... I used to work at a dodge dealer. Soon as the 100k warranty was up on the cummins, they were in for work. Like they have a button they push when they hit 100k and everything breaks. Dad had a ram diesal. traded it for the F350. And the F350 puts the poor dodge to shame. Cant comment on the duramax. Just that it was too exepensive at almost 40k picked up a used f350 for 22 with 20k miles on it :D

wow, you guys make us look bad. Our tow vehicle is a 95 Chvey Pickup with over 150k miles and the trailer is a used trailer we picked up from Tony a while back for under $1k. We recently got new wheels and tires for it and replaced the floor boards too since one fianlly broke when my step-dad was loading up his nice 80's Malibu. :thumbsdow

Nothing wrong with that set-up....that's the "grassroots" racer set-up. I grew up around that kind of set-up in the late seventies/early eighties when my father bracket raced at a couple of tracks around Indiana & Kentucky. All his buddies had similar towing/hauling stuff too. When that's all you can afford, then that's all you can go with....

I think my escalade is sexier
But I Added tv's,Navagation,PS2,DVD,5.1Digital suround sound,ect....

And a new motor in the planing stages! :smokin2:

About it's towing ability works fine I towed my camaro on this 20"aluminum trailer! It was easy. I even tryed flooring it truck hauled ass! The only thing I would change is some bigger brakes, those big wheels don't help!

I just have a Tahoe.
ON 24s
lowered 2/3
Kenwood 911
PS2
15" flip down in the back for the kids
Alpine door speakers per door
and a JL W7 13.5


But its just a tahoe.
new wheels in two weeks.
For pics go to the link below :devil:

But I Added tv's,Navagation,PS2,DVD,5.1Digital suround sound,ect....

And a new motor in the planing stages! :smokin2:

About it's towing ability works fine I towed my camaro on this 20"aluminum trailer! It was easy. I even tryed flooring it truck hauled ass! The only thing I would change is some bigger brakes, those big wheels don't help!

I got the NAV, and TV's just no ps2 because its hard enough driving with hand controls..lol

http://gallery.thevboard.com/showpic.php?dispsize=Original&album=nxtremev&pic=DSC00099.JPG
can't find any exterior pics. on the computer. it's a 24' 2003 haulmark elite II and i pull it with my 94 suburban. right now trying to decide between buying a 2500hd or a new 555bbc?