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chriscorv5
10-11-2004, 05:35 PM
This is my first post and I have been reading around for months. I was wondering if some one could give me some advice on mods. Its going to be an automatic. I am having trouble on what to do I am really looking in to getting an ati Procharger d1-sc kit. It makes it hard on what parts i should by from the time i get the car to when i will get the cash for the kit, so im not waisting money on a cam, and different heads. I figure i could at least get a great exhaust full exhaust system headers back for the time being, and look in to a valve body and a torque converter.


-Christopher-


Zach@Texas-Speed
10-11-2004, 05:42 PM
go with a nice converter....i'd say 3500 or bigger, then long tubes, cutout (just for when you wanna be rowdy), and full exhaust.....blower cam and supercharger at the same time should make some great power

if the 98 has too many miles on it, i'd look into getting forged internals just so they dont take a crap on you once you get everything working

chriscorv5
10-11-2004, 09:20 PM
3,500 wow, whats this going to be like driving on the street?


'Trust'
10-11-2004, 09:21 PM
go with a nice converter....i'd say 3500 or bigger, then long tubes, cutout (just for when you wanna be rowdy), and full exhaust.....blower cam and supercharger at the same time should make some great power

if the 98 has too many miles on it, i'd look into getting forged internals just so they dont take a crap on you once you get everything working

:werd:

Zach@Texas-Speed
10-11-2004, 09:29 PM
its not too bad on the street...if you get some 3.73's it'l tighten it up....plus you'll see over half sec drop in the quarter with et streets

maximumrebel1
10-11-2004, 10:45 PM
I'd upgrade the intake and exhaust and like they said make sure your internals can handle the blower if you have high miles.

BlueSix
10-12-2004, 12:15 AM
If you are going to go the SC route i would stick with a 3500 stall. It wont drive much different than stock. Why don't you want to "waste" money on heads and cam? They will just agument the blower that much better. For now just go with a lid (buy used since you won't need it when you install the blower) and a decent full exhaust (QTP). You should also save up for a forged short block.

riddler
10-12-2004, 12:38 AM
go with a nice converter....i'd say 3500 or bigger, then long tubes, cutout (just for when you wanna be rowdy), and full exhaust.....blower cam and supercharger at the same time should make some great power

if the 98 has too many miles on it, i'd look into getting forged internals just so they dont take a crap on you once you get everything working


He said it best, good luck :007:

chriscorv5
10-12-2004, 06:14 AM
What heads and cam would you get to go with the blower?

z98
10-12-2004, 08:24 AM
Stage 2/3, and a blower cam.

But really, the stock heads and stock cam will go a long way on FI setups.

Someone with stock heads and cam is making about 900 hp IIRC.

If you really wanted to keep to a budget, a set of stock 6.0 heads would be great, get a local porter to clean them up, because they flow almost as well as a set of LS6 heads and will give you half a point drop in compression.

If it was me, I'd get a set of ported 6.0 heads and a custom ground cam from whichever company you like (sponsor list ----->)

With just that h/c setup and a D1-sc you could make pretty decent power, then get forged pistons for a further drop in compression to really turn up the boost.

chriscorv5
10-12-2004, 02:15 PM
Im not talking monster horsepower, around 500 at the wheels is what i am looking for with around 8-10k to spend.

Strahley
10-13-2004, 03:09 PM
Im not talking monster horsepower, around 500 at the wheels is what i am looking for with around 8-10k to spend.

500 RWHP is a lot of power for a car on the street

Zach@Texas-Speed
10-13-2004, 04:06 PM
with blower and heads and blower cam....you'll blow away 500 rwhp

if all you want is 500 rwhp out of a FI setup...then just buy a d1-sc on stock heads/cam and you'll be pretty close

chriscorv5
10-13-2004, 04:26 PM
yeah 475-500 rwhp is all i really want and yes i know its a good amount of power for the street. I have been in some fast cars 780 RWHP t-78h supra. That car was an animal i do not want any thing close to that power wise.

chriscorv5
10-15-2004, 06:47 PM
bump..

jaberwaki
10-15-2004, 07:11 PM
first the supra and fbody are 2 totally differant beasts a 500 rwhp fbody will demolish a 700 hp supra in the 1/4...once the supra spools up then they are rockets no dought.i am not taking away from them at all...
but a 500rwhp fbody rides a tidal wave of tq from the time you hit the gas... and make mental note i told you this... 500rwhp breaks stuff... if you dont spend the money up front on it you will pay it after it breaks.
tq arm
drag sway bar
lca's
sfc's
12 bolt
good steel driveshaft

these are some of the things i would look into while your setting up for boost...

Compstall
10-15-2004, 10:03 PM
Um, I think I would just BUY the car FIRST then go from there.....

You can get pretty close to 500 rwhp on the motor alone without the need for forced induction.

chriscorv5
10-16-2004, 09:35 AM
Hmm i am not planning on only draggin this car it will be more for a street set up. That being said if im doing some roll on more than launches all the time will i still be breaking stuff left and right? I know this is a change of the topic but as far as handling for the street what are some good items to buy to improve over all handling?

DarkSideSS
10-16-2004, 12:10 PM
Hmm i am not planning on only draggin this car it will be more for a street set up. That being said if im doing some roll on more than launches all the time will i still be breaking stuff left and right? I know this is a change of the topic but as far as handling for the street what are some good items to buy to improve over all handling?


i noticed that you're from MA. I think your best bet honestly is to get in touch with Don Kinder(Slowhawk is his username on these boards) from Dez Racing. Tell him what you're looking for out of your car and tell him what you've got to spend and he will build you one hell of a car. Building an everyday street monster is something he has really got down to a science. And he stands behind his work like no one else i've ever dealt with. So my suggestion is head over to the easten section and look around at some of the people that post over there since he has built or worked on most of their cars.

-Jeff

Strahley
10-16-2004, 12:20 PM
Hmm i am not planning on only draggin this car it will be more for a street set up. That being said if im doing some roll on more than launches all the time will i still be breaking stuff left and right? I know this is a change of the topic but as far as handling for the street what are some good items to buy to improve over all handling?

Even from a roll, 500 torque going to the ground will break shit. That's a lot of nuts!

As for handling....

Subframe connectors
Panhard rod
Springs/shocks
Lower control arms
Bigger tires on bigger rims (for handling) or bigger tires on smaller rims (for traction out the hole)

And of course, the driver mod :)

chriscorv5
10-17-2004, 06:15 PM
just got home from a day of driving an 04 cobra, CAI, Pully kit, and exhaust with a tune around 435-445 to the rear tires (for got exact number) the car pulled great. I was wondering driving that car and driving the camaro with the ati procharer will it be a similar feeling?, also the blower on the cobra made so much noise it was like a whisle/whine sound i loved it will the ati procharger make that sound too?

jaberwaki
10-17-2004, 07:46 PM
most blowers have that signature whistle,of cource thats what lets most people know they dont want none...
as for pull likenesses, haveing riden in both a blown fbody and a cobra. the fbody seems to have more tq under the curve, it plants you to the seat like a steam catapult. the cobra seams to pull harder at the top of its rpm band. the fbody felt faster , but the 2 cars never raced eachother.
from other boosted fbody runs i would say the fbody hade the upper hand(by about a full second in the 1/4)

chriscorv5
10-17-2004, 09:02 PM
so if i liked the cobra ill like the procharged fbody?, your saying the cobra has its power up top which is true and the camaros under the curve but i thought i was reading that the ati procharges are known for their top end power, i could be wrong..

jaberwaki
10-17-2004, 09:26 PM
i'm not saying there is not alot of power up top in the fbody, it has gobs of it. just that it has more power under the curve then the cobra does.

chriscorv5
10-17-2004, 09:50 PM
yeah im pumped!