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Old 10-23-2004, 04:01 PM
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Default 225 shot was fun! Dyno numbers on a 225 shot and new all motor best....

New dyno graphs to follow......


On motor made 450rwhp/404rwtq, and on a 225 shot made 621rwhp/707rwtq. 20 degrees timing on bottle, 28 degrees on motor, full belts, heavy *** 60lb wheels on back, 4.10s, 12 bolt, etc..... 98 octane in the car (roughly).

This is all on stock fuel system (except a Walbro 255lph in the tank), 10.8:1 compression ratio, and the A/F is in the mid 11's on bottle, mid 12's on motor. The spike in the graph is from a 225 shot coming all at once w/o a front mount regulator. I won't ever spray this much at once on the street or track so I shouldn't have a lean spike nearly that size ever again.

I think I've maxed out my -4 nitrous line, because I only gained 10rwhp going from a 200 to a 225, but picked up 90rwtq and was running richer than I was with th 200 shot.



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why do you only run 28* of timing on motor?

it likes 31* best.

With the X-3/114 run 31* on motor and 24* on spray.
I would also add 4% fuel when spraying.
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BTW- what does "this is all on stock fuel" mean?
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Originally Posted by 01-Z
why do you only run 28* of timing on motor?

it likes 31* best.

With the X-3/114 run 31* on motor and 24* on spray.
I would also add 4% fuel when spraying.
Because we only have 91 octane at the pump and it's hot as hell out here, so 28* is a safe number for us in AZ


Originally Posted by 01-Z
BTW- what does "this is all on stock fuel" mean?
I need to rephrase that, stock fuel lines/injectors/rails/regulator, but a Walbro 255lph pump in back.
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Those are awesome #'s for your timing for sure. Its good you play it safe instead of falling into the dyno wars..
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Nice numbers, and I will agree your gas in Az. sucks!
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Originally Posted by 01-Z
why do you only run 28* of timing on motor?
two words, arizona gas
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i dont understand why you worry about AZ gas if you were running a mix that resulted in 98 octane. if you were doing that on 91 octane sure i understand ya.

also you did that on stock injectors? that is insane!
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damn sweet *** setup man, gonna kick some *** on the street for sure.
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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
i dont understand why you worry about AZ gas if you were running a mix that resulted in 98 octane. if you were doing that on 91 octane sure i understand ya.

also you did that on stock injectors? that is insane!
He was running a mix specifically for the nitrous. He drives it around daily on 91 octane, thus the 28 degrees of timing for motor only runs. This isn't a car that runs on race gas all the time. Yes we could have pulled less timing out with the retard box for nitrous because it was running higher octane gas, but this isn't pushing the limits right now. Nice and safe.
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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
i dont understand why you worry about AZ gas if you were running a mix that resulted in 98 octane. if you were doing that on 91 octane sure i understand ya.

also you did that on stock injectors? that is insane!
Yep, stock injectors.


I'm not going to bother changing my N/A timing for the track since I had no intent on running N/A at the track, and I'd rather have it where I need it for daily driving.......and I'm sure I could have retarded a little less timing on bottle, but I'd rather be safe than sorry with such a big shot. I'm not a big fan of spraying such a big shot via a standard wet kit to begin with. I'm already concerned about leaning out the rear cylinders. I'm also running on TR-6 plugs which probably should be a step colder to be on the safe side.

Again, this is my daily driver, so better safe than sorry IMO
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225 shot =

Nice #'s man. I bet 700 ft lbs of TQ feels ******* insane!
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Originally Posted by Damian
225 shot =

Nice #'s man. I bet 700 ft lbs of TQ feels ******* insane!
Thanks Damian! Once I get bigger nitrous lines I'll probably jump up to a dual stage 250 shot . I'd like to see 700rwhp/750rwtq if that's doable, but we'll see.

The feeling of all that torque is friggin awesome; I had to pick up some Depends on the way home . Makes me wish I had a single turbo on the car so I could feel it all the time!
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Awesome numbers...

Now go and update your sig...

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Sweet #s man! Congrats. Glad you got the nitrous problem fixed. Now go make some more supra racing vids so I can live vicariously
BTW You still spin that thing to 7400rpm? If so.. Why the G5x3?
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SIIIIICCCKKKK
When i get my project on the road,,, i plan to have similar #'s (crosses fingers) After all,,,, i do have your old heads
New numbers are sweet man, simply badass!
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Originally Posted by SDC
Sweet #s man! Congrats. Glad you got the nitrous problem fixed. Now go make some more supra racing vids so I can live vicariously
BTW You still spin that thing to 7400rpm? If so.. Why the G5x3?
thx! Supra videos, bike videos, they'll all come shortly

I only spin it to 7400rpms in 4th gear if I'm getting close to needing to shift into 5th gear during a race. Otherwise I shift closer to 6800rpms.

I had the G5X3 cam when I had a stock bottom end and only spun the car to 7000rpms.
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Yikes!! That A/F is scary. Damn you are crazy.... Good numbers
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very nice. i hope to get similar results with a 200 shot on my motor. enjoy the power




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