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Old 10-30-2004, 03:05 PM
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I was on an open highway on my way dropping a friend to school and I saw 3 bikes behind each other. 1st bike I saw was a 2004 600rr (the one with the awesome tail pipe).

Immediately I started drooling because I always wanted a bike. But, I decided to say "no its too dangerous" and spent the money modding my car.

Anyway, I keep following all 3 bikes and had a chat with the passenger and he was asking me if I could beat a 600rr. I said well dynoing 482rwhp and 588rwtq should prove something (nitrous torque curve is deadly ).

So we keep talking and the next thing I noticed was the bike in front was a 954 rr. Immediately I turned the bottle opener on (thanks to nitro dave for all the nitrous goodies ) looked at the pressure 900psi. Awesome .

I down shifted to 3rd (yes we were going from like a 65mph roll). I know I should of downshifted to 2nd but by the time I downshifted to 3rd the 954 owner noticed my revs went up so he downshifted as well and I said well f-ck it Im out of time cant miss this opportunity for the world. My rpms were like at under 4500rpms ( NOT GOOD!) .

His bike sounded louder (knew he was in the right gear) so I look at him indicating im ready to go and right before i honk it off he gets on it - no 3 honks! (damn cheater - cut me a break here its just a trans am ). He thought he would eat me alive. haha but boy was he wrong!

When I first got on (right after he did - not even a sec headstart) I saw him jumping like a foot ahead of me the most and immediately I reeled him in. He was side by side with me until I finished 3rd gear and I could see him shifting his *** off beside me but he was not going anywhere but backwards slowly. Shifted to forth and the passenger guy started waving bye bye to his *** . Continued in forth gear and he started going behind - he knew the race was over. So I slowed down and he came beside me giving me major thumbs up . I would say I put a car length on him from a roll 65-120mph. I think if I kept going I would of pulled him even more to be honest (distance between us grew as mph got higher).

Boy was he suprised. Then I looked at him and purged on his *** and for a good 5 seconds he was just staring like WTF ... I couldnt tell if he was in shock or if he was cussing me out in his thoughts hahaha...

Note: when you are driving that fast it is extremely hard to measure the distance you pull someone. A car length in between is just an estimate could of been more definetly not less (unless he slowed down sooner - i doubt it).

I must say the best 3 kills I have are:

1) 954rr kill
2) Z06 w/ heads and cam (haha this guy could not believe a damn WS6 beat his modded Z06!)
3) 480rwhp 03 cobra

Mods in sig. Let me summarize it for you:

TR224 114 cam , 3:73s, true 100 shot. basic bolt ons. Good tune. Nothing ported. Daily driver 380rwhp 360rwtq and 480rwhp 588rwtq on nitrous.

I still cant believe how much faster my WS6 is now from stock. I cant believe I beat a damn bike after he got on it first. Not trying to show off here but the adrenaline rush got me REALLY hyper (20 minutes after and still breathing heavily).

Boy do I love my daily driver and my ONLY vehicle!

Cant wait until I get to race a 2002 R1... I think If im lucky i might have a chance.

I love nitrous

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A 100 shot of N20 gave you 228 Ft/Lbs of TQ?
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that 588rwtq was produced in 3000rpms. Nothing useable in the race unfortunately since the torque curve drops quickly to 450ish.

Attached below is my very blurry ghetto dynosheet.

Sorry this is the best I could do

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"An SS looks like it could kick your *** if it wanted to, but a WS6 looks like it's coming over to do it!" - Anonymous
I am sorry but this is what I like best about your post......

Great Kill though....CDR954RR's is not a Slouch by any means.....Ihave heard nothing but good things from rider who have them or had them.
What was your MPH when ya let off? I usually dont look unitl after I let off....LOL

Good Kill Man
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bikes are not untouchable, the thing about them is that their is a point that they don't pull as hard as thay should, My R1 pulls hard from 0-140mph but then feels like it runs out of breath for about 4-5 sec. then pulls on up to 180mph without a problem. This is just my bike though. Accell from about 60 at high revs and it flies. Many people gear the bike to do stunts, and hurts they're overall performance. Bikes are tough and you do have a good combo so beating one would be easier for you than lets say...an 02 WS6 thats all stock. I had a guy in a Nova talk some **** to me, and he definalty put my bike in its place. Good kill and keep the mods coming.
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So what do you run ans trap in the 1/4?? I have a race in the not too far future with a GSXR 1000 with the car in sig. Only difference will be either a 200 or 250 shot instead of the 100 shot.
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Thats why I built my 97 CBR900RR motor from the ground up, 190 RWHP I have a mustang that runs 10.23 and I can pass it from a roll on the highway like its standing still. My car is stock and I have beat a few bikes from a 50-130 blast but most hand me my ***, killing a bike is a huge acomplishment...good job!!
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thanks for the awesome replies fellas

00TAProject, in all honesty I dont know what my mph was when I let off but I know i was in 4th gear and did not go all the way. I hit the rev limiter in 4th gear at about 133-135mph but I slowed down sooner. I would say I went up to 125mph then slowed down.

RedReaper, I never intended to mod my car for the track and im not such a great driver either. But if this helps on nitto DRs I ran 11.81 @ 122mph on a 1.9 60 ft (yep terrible launch). Also on that run my nitrous window switches were at 6200 instead of 6500rpm (which is what I have now). That 11 sec run was also my ONLY 11 second run. I would say the car should have 11.5 sec potential @ 124mph maybe low 11s on slicks if I learn to launch it on spray... but again i do not really visit the drag strip that often.

I just looked at your sig. WHOAH... 250 shot is A LOT especially on a 408! Are you planning on beating the GSXR 1000 out of the whole? If so, then I see a point for that big of a shot. I would say from a 50mph roll you should kill a gsxr 1000 on a 200 shot - no problem.

Let me know if your racing from a roll or at the 1/4 mile strip. One thing for sure is you better get that race on tape! I wish I had a chance to tape the race .. most awesome kill i had but with no proof

anyone know of a STOCK 02 R1 that wants to play?
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My 2000 R1 has gone 9.60 on a freak pass and usually hovers around 9.90-10.00 at over 137mph on every pass. On the R1 forum the newer R1's are about a tenth quicker, my bike, as far as I know, is stock except the slip-on that I put on it. If oyu ever get to Indy it would be fun to race you,I got beat by a Nova but thats it so far.
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greatwhite, man I wish I could race your R1.

I absolutely love racing bikes. Did you ever happen to race a 954rr? How close would you say the race would be? I know the R1 would be way faster from a stop but what about from a roll? ... say 65mph roll? (wanna know how I would hang with those R1s)

I wish I knew someone in san antonio that would not mind racing me. I just dont like walking about to people calling them out because thats just not me - hate to be seen like an *** if you know what i mean.

gotta find an R1 gotta gotta gotta
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Hey the race is going to be from a roll, probably about 60 mph or so. I just wanted to know what your car trapped so I could compare it to mine and see where I might stand. I figure to be somwhere in the 650 rwhp range if I spray a 200 and 700 rwhp if I spray a 250 shot. Torque in the mid 700 to low 800s depending on shot as well. If everything works out I will also have Stage 3 heads on there and have those shitty *** stage 2s off of there. That should put me around 500 rwhp pn motor and 700 rwhp on the 200. He thinks that he will rape me for some reason, its stock as stock can get. It will be on tape also!!
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I personally have not raced a 954RR, my bike on the other hand has. The guy I bought it from raced one (afriend of a friends) from 80 to 160 and had about 5 bike lengths on him, from a dig it was all R1, about 1/2 sec in the 1/4mile. I have raced my friends 'busa on the street and he only got me by about a bike - but he is a new rider also. The only way he beat me was by shear power, not ability! I know some people in texas from my other forum and I will see if I can set something up for you if you would like.
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RedReaper, I think your more than ready to put a whip on him and I was thinking you wanted to race him from a stop or something .. Do you have 3:73s or the stock 3:42s? please you make sure you get the taping done with a good camera man taping the bike ONLY and never the speedo (if you could get that done ofcourse). I assume your 250 shot is a two stage shot? I think if you could get to spray a 250 shot and hook immediately then you might be able to take on a hayabusa if you get really lucky. If I recall correctly, I think those Z06s with the Lingenfelter 650hp (600rwhp) twin turbos packages are beating hayabusas from a 70mph roll. At least John at 21st century told me they accomplished that using their forged 346 .. so i guess what im trying to say is your 408 should have the ***** to beat a hayabusa.. maybe you should find out and let us know

GREATWHITE, REALLY? man thats awesome for you to offer. I would really appreciate it if you could do such a favor. I really dont want to race modded bikes as I still think im not that fast. Just a completely stock 600RR, GXR 750, 929, 954, R1 would do. Depending on the bike we could do different mph rolls.. you wouldnt know anyone that would have a camera setup on his bike now would you? I really want to get it taped if I can next time it happens (wish I had a digital camera already).. Also I have the 150 jets that I never used before so I could always try them out if they could help me beat a fast bike... (okay im getting a little too excited now )
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"An SS looks like it could kick your *** if it wanted to, but a WS6 looks like it's coming over to do it!" - Anonymous
I am sorry but this is what I like best about your post......
I agree, that's probably one of the funniest things I have read in a while .... so true as well.

Nice kill btw.
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red reaper your in an ss with a 408 and only running two tenths of a second faster with a 100 shot and going 11.6??? stupid fast running a 408 in a truck rcsb ran a 408 built block motor with a 230/230 cam (quite a bit smaller) and a 150 shot and ran a 7.3 1/8 mile which translates to about an 11.3-11.5 so something doesnt sound quite right no it didnt help still cant think of a reason why BTW awesome kill on a bike especially one that big man that must have been freakin exhilerating as hell i would have had a rush for that long at least
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Originally Posted by sfj
red reaper your in an ss with a 408 and only running two tenths of a second faster with a 100 shot and going 11.6??? stupid fast running a 408 in a truck rcsb ran a 408 built block motor with a 230/230 cam (quite a bit smaller) and a 150 shot and ran a 7.3 1/8 mile which translates to about an 11.3-11.5 so something doesnt sound quite right no it didnt help still cant think of a reason why BTW awesome kill on a bike especially one that big man that must have been freakin exhilerating as hell i would have had a rush for that long at least


I only ran once with the 100 shot. I have a couple of issues with it. First my heads really suck for this motor, only flowed like 297 @ .600. Second is I am still on the stock 10 bolt so I am launching it easy a hell, no more than 3000 rpms. Also my Stage 5 was slipping when I ran that time. My car is actually sitting at the shop right now because we had to pull the damn clutch pressure plate and flywheel and send them back to Spec so they can fix whatever is going on. I am also on the sotck fuel system so I might be leaning out alot. I have no doubts in my mind that with a non slipping clutch and my stand alone fuel system I am going to put on that it will run low 11s high 10s as it sits. My short times were only high 1.8s I am going to be buying heads around christmas time for it.
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redreaper what gears do you have in the stock rear end?
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Hey Ahmed, this is Matt...
Awesome kill man.
Off topic, I think Chris wants to run you on spray with him on race gas are you up for it???
He is getting a little too confident since he has taken out a couple of pretty fast LS1s.
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Originally Posted by 2002_TAWS6
redreaper what gears do you have in the stock rear end?

3.42s. Nothing on the car has been touched except the motor and clutch.


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