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Old 10-30-2004, 10:35 PM
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Default Dual 2.25" exhaust too small for 450hp?

Would a custom, mandrel bent dual 2.25" exhaust system with a low-restriction muffler be to too restrictive for a 450hp LS1? This would be combined with good LT headers. Would going to dual 2.5" make more power?
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I'd go with at least 2.5", 3" if you're plannin anything more then 450.
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What he said...2.25 just ain't going to cut it...
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Originally Posted by cyphur_traq
I'd go with at least 2.5", 3" if you're plannin anything more then 450.
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I agree, 2.5" minimum.

How about on a bolt on only car? I still wouldn't use 2.25" tubing/Y pipe but what about 2.5" versus 3" as far as ultimate flow/efficiency/power is concerned?
I'm thinking that 2.5" might be better on a lower powered, NA bolt on car.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I agree, 2.5" minimum.

How about on a bolt on only car? I still wouldn't use 2.25" tubing/Y pipe but what about 2.5" versus 3" as far as ultimate flow/efficiency/power is concerned?
I'm thinking that 2.5" might be better on a lower powered, NA bolt on car.
I agree with you. Sticking with just bolt ons, 3" may be too much. Hence why I suggested 2.5 unless he plans to surpass 450rwhp. At that point, a 3" exhaust is almost mandatory in my eyes.
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I would go 3" so when you decide to make more power you won't have to buy another set up. My 2.5" system cost me atleast 3 tenths in the quarter vs open headers. I probrably make a touch over 500hp at the wheels.
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i was told that 2.5" is fine for quite a bit of hp...but i guess i was wrong...
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i was told that 2.5" is fine for quite a bit of hp...but i guess i was wrong...
I would say 2.5" is good for lots of power but I am wondering about 2.25". Has anyone seen poor results in the 400+rwhp range by using 2.25" tubing? I know most people use 2.5" or larger but that doesn't necessarily mean it is required.
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Why bother going through the PITA of building/routing a 2.25 system now, and then have to do it all over again later on down the road with 2.5 if you decided to go for more pwr? It just wouldn't make any sense to do 2.25. Especially cost wise...There's no plus here...
I've built two different style 2.5" dual X-pipe systems (one with side exits before the tires, and one over the axle), and then went for 3" dual X, also over the axle (current). I've done a good bit of fab work in my days. Even with all the experience, if you wan't it done right, it is a pain in the *** job. Trust me, do it right the first time...
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Originally Posted by V8er
Would a custom, mandrel bent dual 2.25" exhaust system with a low-restriction muffler be to too restrictive for a 450hp LS1? This would be combined with good LT headers. Would going to dual 2.5" make more power?

Who stops at 450hp? I choose 3" cause I knew as soon as I got to 400, id want 500 then 600 then 700...you get the point...
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Scroll down to the table on the following link:

http://www.dynomax.com/techsupport.stm#TechTips
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That chart is way off.

A single 2 1/2" pipe will support upwards of 350 HP.

Of course, this is actual experience talking, not concrete marketing hype.
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
Who stops at 450hp? I choose 3" cause I knew as soon as I got to 400, id want 500 then 600 then 700...you get the point...
I'm fortunate enough to be able to exercise some restraint when it comes to modding a car...I can say with some certainty that I will stop at a given point (in this case, bolt ons only) and I think I can stick to it, maybe.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I'm fortunate enough to be able to exercise some restraint when it comes to modding a car...I can say with some certainty that I will stop at a given point (in this case, bolt ons only) and I think I can stick to it, maybe.
Well I'm glad someone can. I know I can't, at least not with the fact that turbos are gettin a little easier to put on an LS1. I'd love to have twins on a fully built motor.

And someday I will, barring any catastrophic events in my future. LOL.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I'm fortunate enough to be able to exercise some restraint when it comes to modding a car...I can say with some certainty that I will stop at a given point (in this case, bolt ons only) and I think I can stick to it, maybe.

Hahaha, so you claim now. Racing is addictive. When you first get your car your like AWW ITS FAST then later its not so fast anymore. Then you put some mods on again and its fast again but soon later is not fast anymore. Its a vicious cycle.
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Not only that, it's a great alternative to marriage...
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
Hahaha, so you claim now. Racing is addictive. When you first get your car your like AWW ITS FAST then later its not so fast anymore. Then you put some mods on again and its fast again but soon later is not fast anymore. Its a vicious cycle.
I will fight it then, I will resist the temptations of the horsepower, I must remain victorious over the modding bug!


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Not only that, it's a great alternative to marriage...
Now that is VERY true.
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Well Ill just say, when I first bought my car. I had no intentions of making it faster. Going from a old 4 banger to a LS1 was quite a setup up I must say. After a month later I had a lid and look at the car now. I just made my 6th payment on it.
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I must agree with 2Much.
I put headers and true duals on LAST week.
I am now looking at cams.
The mod bug WILL get you.


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