Street Racing & Kill Stories - 05' Mustang goes down at the strip

Ran a brand new GT at South Georgia Motorsports Park (cecil) today. Sharp car, white, factory stock 5(6?)speed manual. I talked to him after, it was his best run of the night, and my worst of the night. He was a great driver.

He ran

60' - 1.877 (on STOCK tires!)
1/8 - 8.520
1/8 MPH - 81.11
1/4 - 13.35
1/4 MPH - 101.58

to my

60' - 1.751
1/8 - 7.968
1/8 MPH - 88.02
1/4 - 12.495
1/4 MPH - 108.27

My best run of the night is in sig. Had fun, Need to put in the 4.11s I have sitting in my bedroom, stock gears are absolutely murdering my times with the big cam. Looking for 11s after XMas :)

He had to of been a great driver to get a mid to low 13 stock.. I've seen VIDEOS of 05s running low 14s due to bad drivers. Good times for you also!

Wow...that guy must've had some serious skills. 101mph shows how little power the car makes. That 60' is pretty damned impressive on stock radials.

No joke, I was impressed. He was running 13.7-13.8 all night, this was a best pass.

Ran a brand new GT at South Georgia Motorsports Park (cecil) today. Sharp car, white, factory stock 5(6?)speed manual. I talked to him after, it was his best run of the night, and my worst of the night. He was a great driver.

He ran

60' - 1.877 (on STOCK tires!)
1/8 - 8.520
1/8 MPH - 81.11
1/4 - 13.35
1/4 MPH - 101.58

to my

60' - 1.751
1/8 - 7.968
1/8 MPH - 88.02
1/4 - 12.495
1/4 MPH - 108.27

My best run of the night is in sig. Had fun, Need to put in the 4.11s I have sitting in my bedroom, stock gears are absolutely murdering my times with the big cam. Looking for 11s after XMas :)

lol, everyone doubted those new gts being quick. It was a matter of time for someone to get down those launches. After seeing some reviews of those gts, I had no doubt they would be running 13s. That guy could possibly hit high 12s with a set of et's. I suspect more of these guys running 13s.

13.3 with a 101 trap is damn stout driving.

13.3 with a 101 trap is damn stout driving.
Definitely. The car is a pice of :turd: in terms of power from the factory though.

the new gt may not have power,but i love the new look. all the new gt needs is someone like me to buy one put lots of money in it and go 10's. but,i think i'll stick with the ls1 for a little while longer i will hit 9's in the ta. :)

The new GTs make ~260-270 RWHP in stock trim, and though somewhat heavy, should still be able to pull down better than 100-103 mph (highest I've heard of). There is speculation that the torque management system is playing a role in this somehow.

In good air, 13.3-13.5 from that kind of power to weight ratio doesn't surprise me at all - it should be expected. Apparently the new 3-link rear works pretty well.

A friend of mine just got one with an auto and he drove it straight from the dealership to the strip. It didn't even have 200 miles on it yet! He ran low 14's pretty consistent but he did pull off one 13.8 run.

Apparently the new 3-link rear works pretty well.
I've seen the 3 link rear ends. Very interesting.

LOL, so all this means, most of us here running LS1's can take on a GT pretty much stock :D I mean come on, they had 3 years since they stopped making the F-body's to come up with more power. I bet you even a slightly modded LT1 can keep up with that.

Shouldn't be a problem for us! But hey, ford finally got 300 horses out of it now! GM's had that many for how long now?

LOL, so all this means, most of us here running LS1's can take on a GT pretty much stock :D I mean come on, they had 3 years since they stopped making the F-body's to come up with more power. I bet you even a slightly modded LT1 can keep up with that.
Here's the deal...why would Ford increase power? They have no reason to. The sell no matter what. Mustangs outsold fbodies so much that GM killed them. Their goal isn't to manufacture the fastest stock car. They left that up to SVT...be on the look out for a twin screw 5.4L Cobra soon. ;)

Shouldn't be a problem for us! But hey, ford finally got 300 horses out of it now! GM's had that many for how long now?
Read more, post less. :lurk:

Brilliant post. :rolleyes:

I thought GM pulled the plug on the f-bodies b/c of the high price and the fact that rice was outselling them and going on to be the next big thing. I thought it was neck to neck on F-body to stang sells. Although you could get a dressed out GT stang for what? 25,000 and you would pay at least 30,000 for a Z28 fully dressed. I say you get what you pay for.

Towards the end of the F-body's existance, Mustang outsold it by almost 4 to 1.

A low-option Z28 or Formula was about the same price as a Mustang GT. Quite the performance bargain. A loaded Z or T/A was about the same price of a loaded GT, perhaps a bit more. An SS or WS6 was closer in price to the Cobra.

I didn't realize that. I guess I'll read more and post less, right unit 213 ? :eyes:

thew mustang did out sell teh z and t/a combined.......but i dont think that is the only reason for a stop of production...the origin of the camaro was to out perform the mustang back in the 60'z......maybe GM is back to its old tricks.no matter what.i still love my Z and im interested to see wat the new cobra/mach-1 might be like......

After reading the reviews of the new stang i was impressed but more on the suspension setup than the new motor.....the new intake looks familiar though.....

that guy must of been a good driver to cut 60'z like that..might be due to the quick shift ratio'z of the tranny. i think that with some practice and good DR'z/et'z, he could get 12'z...but with 101-103 mph it might need some extra thrust...... they do sound different though.dont know wat i think of that.............

overall, the new stang has poential but anybosy with cash can just about own anyone in anything...would like to see wat GM has in store for the ford guys though.......:devil:

Here's the deal...why would Ford increase power? They have no reason to. The sell no matter what. Mustangs outsold fbodies so much that GM killed them. Their goal isn't to manufacture the fastest stock car. They left that up to SVT...be on the look out for a twin screw 5.4L Cobra soon. ;)
I thought the whole SVT line from Ford was dead. Or i've heard a lot of people say it is. So the beloved SVT line from ford might get the axe just like our beloved F-body. Life's a bitch ain't it :judge:

ill have to take a look at these sleeper GTs. :)

With all the seriously badass cars GM is coming out with lately, I'm extremely anxious to see how they respond to Ford.

GM canned the Fbody line because it would not meet upcoming federal front crash safety standards, and GM would have to redo the design of the car to fix it. I do believe that ment modifications to the St. Therese plant that was a money sink for GM in the first place. Fbodies HAD to be made at the St. Therese plant until (I believe) 2005 or 2006 because of a fucked up deal that was made in the 80s. As far as I know, the sales of the Fbodies WERE enough to keep them alive, but were not enough to warrent a redesign of the car when GM was intent on moving to more cars based off of fewer designs (shared chassis). GM figured they'd just put the cars to sleep for a few years (like ford did with the thunderbird) until they had their new 21st century RWD platform up... which they do... I want to say it's the sigma platform, or a derivitive of it (the Zeta?). Look for the new Camaro as a 2007 model, almost certainly with a "detuned" (-5hp from vette I bet) LS2.

Edit: Getting back to the subject, that's the quickest time I've heard out of a 2005 mustang, that guy could really drive. I've liked the look of the car since I first saw the wacky concept version in 2003. Twin screw 5.4L cobra will be sweet if it happens, but somehow I doubt we're gonna see what is essentially the Ford GT engine show up in the cobra. It WILL probably have the Ford GT heads on it, which are also (I believe) based on the 2000 Cobra R heads. A 4.6L (or 5.0L) cobra with those heads and a twin screw supercharger will still probably be a hell of a beast.

I thought the whole SVT line from Ford was dead. Or i've heard a lot of people say it is. So the beloved SVT line from ford might get the axe just like our beloved F-body. Life's a bitch ain't it :judge:
It's not beloved to me. I could give two shits, BUT there will be a 5.4L blown Cobra. Basically a detuned Ford GT. :devil: :lol:

It's not beloved to me. I could give two shits, BUT there will be a 5.4L blown Cobra. Basically a detuned Ford GT. :devil: :lol:

Rumor mill has the the Cobra dead in the water after 2004.

Rumor mill has the the Cobra dead in the water after 2004.
That's what i've heard too, but Saleen might pick it up or something like that. So it looks like no twin screw cobras for you guys.

I saw a new 05 GT at my track and the best he could run was......15.0 :jest:

Here's the deal...why would Ford increase power? They have no reason to. The sell no matter what. Mustangs outsold fbodies so much that GM killed them. Their goal isn't to manufacture the fastest stock car. They left that up to SVT...be on the look out for a twin screw 5.4L Cobra soon. ;)
good point!

Rumor mill has the the Cobra dead in the water after 2004.
Then why are they crash testing them? ;) I have inside scoop.

Then why are they crash testing them? ;) I have inside scoop.
Maybe they figure it's a fun way to put them to real use:jest:

Then why are they crash testing them? ;) I have inside scoop.


I have an even more inside scoop ;)


currently the entire SVT plant is being made over. New machines being fitted for the new bodies and lines for the cars and *cough* trucks *cough* Ford is doing a few more things and yes the new COBRA will make more power.

Dan is on the right track. SVT is not going to be knocked off. they made a killing with the 03/04 cobra anyways :D

I have an even more inside scoop ;)


currently the entire SVT plant is being made over. New machines being fitted for the new bodies and lines for the cars and *cough* trucks *cough* Ford is doing a few more things and yes the new COBRA will make more power.

Dan is on the right track. SVT is not going to be knocked off. they made a killing with the 03/04 cobra anyways :D
Wow this is all new news to me, i heard that the entire SVT line was probably gonna be knocked off and that Saleen and Roush were gonna be taking pars of them over.

Wow this is all new news to me, i heard that the entire SVT line was probably gonna be knocked off and that Saleen and Roush were gonna be taking pars of them over.


i actually want to give some people a call tomorrow. Dan, what has millen and livernois said about the situation. I KNOW they KNOW the same info i get

i actually want to give some people a call tomorrow. Dan, what has millen and livernois said about the situation. I KNOW they KNOW the same info i get
I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you Gray. ;)
Honestly, I can't say.

I live in Dearborn (Ford World HQ). I work for a major Ford supplier who makes goodies for the S197 'stangs. My friends work for Ford (and SVT ;) ) as engineers. I have a couple of sources.

I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you Gray. ;)
Honestly, I can't say.

I live in Dearborn (Ford World HQ). I work for a major Ford supplier who makes goodies for the S197 'stangs. My friends work for Ford (and SVT ;) ) as engineers. I have a couple of sources.
And because of these sources, you're going to get us all 04 Cobra's for free? :jest: :)

And because of these sources, you're going to get us all 04 Cobra's for free? :jest: :)
I can't even get a discount on mine. :cry:

i actually want to give some people a call tomorrow. Dan, what has millen and livernois said about the situation. I KNOW they KNOW the same info i get
Actually, they get much more info that you'd imagine or that you probably can get your hands on. They are a direct supplier to Ford and do tons of pre-production hush hush work for them. It's nice being 2 miles from Ford WHQ.

They had this guy on the dyno last time I was there. Ford GT90. Old, but still pretty cool.

http://www.geocities.com/hockey_sucks/gt90-3.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/hockey_sucks/gt90int.gif

http://www.geocities.com/hockey_sucks/gt90rear.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/hockey_sucks/gt95.jpg

Actually, they get much more info that you'd imagine or that you probably can get your hands on. They are a direct supplier to Ford and do tons of pre-production hush hush work for them. It's nice being 2 miles from Ford WHQ.

They had this guy on the dyno last time I was there. Ford GT90. Old, but still pretty cool.


my grandfather works for the world headquarters. he was the Head National ford Fleet accountant, but now was head runner for dealership orientation. only 3 people in all of ford hold this position. They want him to start doing overseas work and open dealerships in europe, but he is instead retiring this year. They fill him in on everything SVT is thinking and doing. up there once a month in dearborn to meet with the big guns on what is new. I got some good info ;)