2001ws6ramair

about 3 months ago, I purchased "out2getu"'s 2000 SS. Stupid of me that the car was in TX and I was in pa and bought the car sight unseen with trust as my eyes. Anyway. to make a long story short, I drove the car less then 1500 miles. I took it out maybe once a week and didnt even get a chance to beat it yet. So im driving down the road, next thing i notice its tapping a lot. I pull it over and shut it down for a few. Start it back up... slowly the tapping stopped and I kept on driving. Happened again about 15minutes later even louder. Sounded like a bottomed out lifter to me. But I took the car to a very highly recomended speed shop and they told me #1. the engine had to be pulled out. #2 it doesnt sound good! After a month of the car sitting at the shop.. This is what the shop says....


Hey Kevin,

George just pulled apart the bottom end. Few things we found that were interesting. The oil pump o-ring was stuck in the bottom of the oil pickup tube (So it was in the main oil pan at one time). I believe that when someone went to install the oil pump the o-ring dropped in the pan and they never bothered to open the pan to get to it or didn't realize this. So you had no o-ring in the oil pump where it belongs. This is more than likely the cause of oil starvation and in turn spun the rod bearing.

George said that it may be possible to resize the rod and it would be fine, but he does notice a few marks on the rod that would not be repairable. His suggestion is to get a new rod. The rods are Oliver I-Beam rods. This piston attached to that rod struck the cylinder head. George scrapped the carbon off to make sure there was no major damage but it definitely got whacked.

Crank needs to be cut .010/.010 because of the bearing.

4 of your pistons are coming in contact with the crank. These 4 pistons need to be notched/clearanced so they don't whack the crank again.

Good news! The cam is fine and so are the lifters.

This is what you will need:

R&R Motor $1000
R&R Top End $500
R&R Bottom End $500
Rebalance Rotating Assembly $300
Clearance 4 Pistons $100
Cut .010/.010 Crank $100
Main Bearings $70
Rod Bearings $70
LS6 Oil Pump $90
Oil Pump O-Ring $3
Oliver I-Beam Rod *I will call for pricing* Probably be around $150-175
Gasket Kit $82

I would recommend also doing a set of cam bearings while we are in there they are $35 installed.
Dyno Tune $450

I will need to get your approval to order the new rod and then get this block over to our machine shop.

George said that whoever put this motor together is a 'shoemaker'. He turned high performance parts into high performance junk pretty quickly.


This is the message I got from one of the best perfomance shops around here. I trust there opinion very highly. I had a very bad feeling about this whole thing. I should of never trusted someone else. So basically....

Toecutter

Quit your bitching...you bought a USED vehicle. This is the chance we a all take.

INTENESS

iTrader: (4)

Well Im glad it's with a good shop now,As for the guy who sold it to you very low ball thing to do to someone if he knew about the problem.Best of luck to you I dont know if the lemon law applys in this case if so I would try and stick it to him.

777

iTrader: (21)

Good example of a reason not to buy a modded car...especially one you don't know the person or don't know who built the engine...sorry about your luck...i hope you g ot a good deal on it so you are out of a lot money...

777

iTrader: (21)

lemon law is for new cars...i doubt this applies

demonspeed

iTrader: (7)

I'd be upset too, but seriously, the seller might not have even known about the problem. It's just a chance you have to take, especially when buying a modified car.

ActionJack

Take this opportunity to invest a little more and make more HP. After all, the engine is gonna be apart.

Boostaholic

iTrader: (4)

I had this same thing happen, #5 connecting rod bearing was the first to go, I did not even mess with rebuilding the motor - just got a whole new 408CI short block.

Nine Ball

iTrader: (38)

That shop's rates seem very reasonable at least. Most places just want $1500 to pull an engine and install a new one, without breaking into them.

2001ws6ramair

the engine is pretty well pushed out. Its a 408 stroker Oliver Ibeam rods, callies crank, diamond pistons. stage 3 ls6 heads, ferrara valves, cams ect... made 505hp when it was last dyno'd I am making a few changes with it now but mostly same stuff. and It will be put back in the right way. Before there was shady **** done. Example..header touching the steering nuckle at idle! so I figure.. fix it once and fix it right..

as far as lemon law. only applies to new cars. but I have a signed buyers order saying that the orignal owner will warrenty the engine for 1 month/1,000 miles. I am thinking about contacting the Attorney General and see what I can do but we will have to see first...

2001ws6ramair

the shops rate is very good 1. because I am pretty good friends with the owner and the people that work there. I am pretty luck that I have good friends. Wish I didnt get so dicked over but life goes on and I will win in the end.

DD966

iTrader: (3)

Somebody remind me not to buy anything from this pr***.

lilstephsls1

iTrader: (5)

wow.. thats harsh. Sorry about your luck. Once all the work is taken care of, good luck with the car and maybe its a lesson to listen to your instincts. Sometimes if you have a bad feeling about something, there is a good reason for it.

heymoej

iTrader: (67)

hey toecutter,you are a DICK!!!!!! yes we all take that chance on buying a used car, but people like you are the ones that ruin it for everyone else.you sound like the same type of guy that would do the same thing to some one else.have a great day & i hope that your next used car purchase you get a piece of **** like this poor guy got!!! john

777

iTrader: (21)

good luck on getting money from the guy who warrented it...you shouldn't have problems as long as you have signed papers...

Desperado

Well that is the risk we take when buying used/modded cars, or anything for that matter.. I would take it as an excuse to really mod the engine now that your forced to take it out the car..

2001ws6ramair

lol the car is plenty fast enough for me and the papers are signed so I will be working on it when I get some free time.

luvmeZ28

iTrader: (3)

exactly

Mr. Bungle

iTrader: (13)

This really sux hope it never happens to me.

2001ws6ramair

hope it doesnt happen to others like it happned to me. Im just kinda lucky that Im getting a little extra insurance money cause my mustang got hit last month and Im fixing it myself to save some $$$ to try to fill the gap