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Band clamps-not really. They are meant for butting two pipes together, they dont work well with a slipfit. Try searching for band clamps on here, there is ton about how they dont seal, they stretch, etc. Best thing to do is flange your exhaust or I am going to try t-bolt clamps when my QTP's go on. Oh, there is a company called python, that sells the ultimate clamp, but they a $100 a piece Just try searching for clamps, there is a LOT of info.
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I've found that as long as you tighten the band clamps down real good (and put some anti-seize on the bolts so they won't be hell taking them off) seal pretty good. Yes they do stretch a little, but as long as you don't move them around everytime you take off the exhaust, you don't have to worry about leaks.
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A good quality v-band clamp will seal excellent. Almost every turbo system has v-band clamps in it, but they are expensive.
A good quality stainless steel band clamp is also great and a lot cheaper. They are meant for slip fit connection, NOT for butting two pipes together. Every band clamp I have ever used has big warnings on it to not use them to butt pipes together.
A quality band clamp will also form aka 'stretch' to the pipes. I always line mine in copper rtv and never had a problem with a band clamp leaking. I just put them on with a impact until it stops and it's good to go.
A good quality stainless steel band clamp is also great and a lot cheaper. They are meant for slip fit connection, NOT for butting two pipes together. Every band clamp I have ever used has big warnings on it to not use them to butt pipes together.
A quality band clamp will also form aka 'stretch' to the pipes. I always line mine in copper rtv and never had a problem with a band clamp leaking. I just put them on with a impact until it stops and it's good to go.
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There are a few different types of band clamps, are you guys referring to the type that comes stock on the Y to I-pipe connection on LS1 cars?
In my experiance, the only time a band clamp will seal well is when the slip-fit connection is an extremly tight fit to begin with. If the slip-fit end isn't at least very snug, that joint will likely leak. For semi-loose fits, crimping with a U-clamp or welding is really the only option, IMO.
In my experiance, the only time a band clamp will seal well is when the slip-fit connection is an extremly tight fit to begin with. If the slip-fit end isn't at least very snug, that joint will likely leak. For semi-loose fits, crimping with a U-clamp or welding is really the only option, IMO.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
There are a few different types of band clamps, are you guys referring to the type that comes stock on the Y to I-pipe connection on LS1 cars?
In my experiance, the only time a band clamp will seal well is when the slip-fit connection is an extremly tight fit to begin with. If the slip-fit end isn't at least very snug, that joint will likely leak. For semi-loose fits, crimping with a U-clamp or welding is really the only option, IMO.
In my experiance, the only time a band clamp will seal well is when the slip-fit connection is an extremly tight fit to begin with. If the slip-fit end isn't at least very snug, that joint will likely leak. For semi-loose fits, crimping with a U-clamp or welding is really the only option, IMO.
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Originally Posted by Tim @ EADPerformance
I'm referring to the band clamps that are about 3" wide so it seals about 1.5" on each side of the connection.
I was concerned that since the metal on the band portion is rather thin that it might not be strong enough to actually seal the connection, since the pipe slipping over will be slightly rasied from the pipe it's slipping into (if that makes sense). But would you say that in your experiance this is not an issue?
Thanks.
PS. You mentioned using RTV, what application meathod do you use, putting the clamp on first and running a bead over the edges or running a bead on the underside of the band before clamping it on? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Ah, I'm glad you mentioned that because I'm considering using exactly that type of clamp on my new I-pipe. It's just as you described, 3" wide, stainless steel, and two bolt design. Are these the ones you recommend then?
I was concerned that since the metal on the band portion is rather thin that it might not be strong enough to actually seal the connection, since the pipe slipping over will be slightly rasied from the pipe it's slipping into (if that makes sense). But would you say that in your experiance this is not an issue?
Thanks.
PS. You mentioned using RTV, what application meathod do you use, putting the clamp on first and running a bead over the edges or running a bead on the underside of the band before clamping it on? Thanks.
I was concerned that since the metal on the band portion is rather thin that it might not be strong enough to actually seal the connection, since the pipe slipping over will be slightly rasied from the pipe it's slipping into (if that makes sense). But would you say that in your experiance this is not an issue?
Thanks.
PS. You mentioned using RTV, what application meathod do you use, putting the clamp on first and running a bead over the edges or running a bead on the underside of the band before clamping it on? Thanks.
When I put RTV on them, I usually gob it all over the clamp, then put the clamp on the pipes. After you do one or two, you will get an idea of how much to use.
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Those 3" stainless steel 2 bolt band clamps are the ****. They don't let a DAMN THING get past them once tightened, even w/o RTV. Don't worry about them, you don't even need expensive ones. I got mine @ NAPA and they worked GREAT, lol.
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Originally Posted by cyphur_traq
Those 3" stainless steel 2 bolt band clamps are the ****. They don't let a DAMN THING get past them once tightened, even w/o RTV. Don't worry about them, you don't even need expensive ones. I got mine @ NAPA and they worked GREAT, lol.
I'm going to have to disagree. If the pipes aren't a super snug fit together they will leak...I know mine leak.
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I put my TSP ypipe on with the 3" stainless band clamps and they aren't leaking. I did like Tim said and put some rtv on. I just put mine were the pipe slipped on all around that kinda thick and then put the clamp over it, no probelms so far.
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Originally Posted by JamRWS6
I'm going to have to disagree. If the pipes aren't a super snug fit together they will leak...I know mine leak.
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Originally Posted by JamRWS6
I'm going to have to disagree. If the pipes aren't a super snug fit together they will leak...I know mine leak.
But I like the idea of these band clamps for tight fits. I think I might try one this time, I'll probably use the RTV copper stuff too just for added protection....
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Originally Posted by JamRWS6
I'm going to have to disagree. If the pipes aren't a super snug fit together they will leak...I know mine leak.
Mine leak too. These clamps need for the slip fit too be very snug to work because the flared end of the pipe will hold the clamp off of the pipe.
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Mine leak too. These clamps need for the slip fit too be very snug to work because the flared end of the pipe will hold the clamp off of the pipe.
I've never had a problem using a big impact. You can actually see it pull tight to the smaller pipe and clearly see the crease in the clamp from the joint if its tight enough.
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Originally Posted by Tim @ EADPerformance
Are you just tightning these by hand?
I've never had a problem using a big impact. You can actually see it pull tight to the smaller pipe and clearly see the crease in the clamp from the joint if its tight enough.
I've never had a problem using a big impact. You can actually see it pull tight to the smaller pipe and clearly see the crease in the clamp from the joint if its tight enough.
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Originally Posted by JamRWS6
I don't have access to a heavy duty impact (I can tighten tighter by hand than the impact), but I can see what you are saying. I think with an impact with some power you could get it tight enough that it would be much less prone to leaking.