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Old 02-08-2005, 11:27 PM
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Is any body using this combo? I would like to try it. I see alot of different combo's using this head and different cams. I would like to see the average joe's results. And has anyboby passed Ca. smog with this combo
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Do a search under my name or "AFR 205"....there has been MANY threads posted by myself and others with the exact combination you seek. It is essentially the package we designed to show off the attributes of the new AFR 205 cylinder heads. Stealthy, perfect driving manners, and lots of power when combined with the right tune and mix of "complimentary" components.

My car was extremely close to passing a CA sniffer test and in the right conditions and with a slightly different tune maybe, but if someone absolutely MUST pass, its probably best to use a 224/224 or something slightly smaller depending on the level of risk your up for.

Upon re-reading your post I see that you are looking for results besides mine....I would agree there are quite a few out there....you might want to poke around the CF board as well.

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[QUOTE=Tony Mamo @ AFR]Do a search under my name or "AFR 205"....there has been MANY threads posted by myself and others with the exact combination you seek. It is essentially the package we designed to show off the attributes of the new AFR 205 cylinder heads. Stealthy, perfect driving manners, and lots of power when combined with the right tune and mix of "complimentary" components.

My car was extremely close to passing a CA sniffer test and in the right conditions and with a slightly different tune maybe, but if someone absolutely MUST pass, its probably best to use a 224/224 or something slightly smaller depending on the level of risk your up for.

Upon re-reading your post I see that you are looking for results besides mine....I would agree there are quite a few out there....you might want to poke around the CF board as well.
Thanks Tony. For making my head hurt! 10 pages 234 threads on AFR 205's alone. Alot of good info. Alot of usless dribble. Some I have allready read the past four months. Not done yet. Still looking for a couple of dyno sheets on stock motor with a few bolt on's. I will keep looking and poke around in the CF board.
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Originally Posted by slow ride
Is any body using this combo? I would like to try it. I see alot of different combo's using this head and different cams. I would like to see the average joe's results. And has anyboby passed Ca. smog with this combo
Slow Ride,

This is the setup I'm using and I love it. The car idles well and has great street manners. It is a beast when I put my foot into it. I haven't had a dyno tune yet and don't have any dyno numbers, because I've run into a couple of small problems when I put the car back together (e.g. not sealing the timing cover correctly and then punching a hole in the radiator after fixing the cover, DUH).

I can't give you any info on CA smog laws but I know a couple of guys here in NJ have passed emissions with the combo.
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I'm seriously considering AFR 205's with the baby cam in my sig. Additionally, I have a Jantzer ported TB, 28.8 injectors, LS6 intake, some other stuff. I'll post numbers and race track times once the heads are all said-and-done.

I had posed a similar question and Tony gave me the same answer after I had already searched until my head was about to explode just trying to differentiate fact from fiction. In his defense, I did find this seems to be the perfect cam for the AFR 205's. In my defense, he could have simply taken 15 seconds and answered my question.
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Slow Ride,

This is the setup I'm using and I love it. The car idles well and has great street manners. It is a beast when I put my foot into it. I haven't had a dyno tune yet and don't have any dyno numbers, because I've run into a couple of small problems when I put the car back together (e.g. not sealing the timing cover correctly and then punching a hole in the radiator after fixing the cover, DUH).

I can't give you any info on CA smog laws but I know a couple of guys here in NJ have passed emissions with the combo.
Thanks guys. I am sure this combo will work very well. I am just looking for some numbers. Yea Tony making 480 RWHP and AFR told over the phone It should make 425-450 RWHP. And that is FU#%&^** great. I just wanted to see a few dyno sheets to back it up. Just some average guys that did the install themslefs with limited skills? As for smog the guy at AFR I think his name was Scott said that cam would pass with proper tuneing. Tony wasnt so sure in his post. I did find a post form Tony saying that the smaller AFR 6018 cam would pass and only give up 6-8 HP. Thats cool but still no numbers found. It is well known that the TR 224 will pass smog. I have seen posts of 375-415RWHP. I know that peak HP is not everything TQ and power under the cruve is what I want.

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Originally Posted by JEB99TA
I'm seriously considering AFR 205's with the baby cam in my sig. Additionally, I have a Jantzer ported TB, 28.8 injectors, LS6 intake, some other stuff. I'll post numbers and race track times once the heads are all said-and-done.
I'm in the middle of my AFR 205 install right now, using a similar sized baby cam (.558/221). I'm interested to see what kind of numbers I get. Did good numbers cam only, so I'd like to see ~415-420 through the 12 bolt (numbers in sig were thru 10 bolt). Probably won't have dyno numbers for another month, or track times til April though.
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Good luck w/the T1. I'm staying with an old school grind myself after almost second guessing myself several times. MTI is the ****.
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I have the AFR setup with the exception I put my cam on a 114+4. CR 11:1, LT headers w/ cats, CAI, UDP, MTI TB, sstock exhaust all this is on 2004 gto M6. RWHP 418 RAWATQ 386. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by BIG G
I have the AFR setup with the exception I put my cam on a 114+4. CR 11:1, LT headers w/ cats, CAI, UDP, MTI TB, sstock exhaust all this is on 2004 gto M6. RWHP 418 RAWATQ 386. Hope this helps.
Thanks, Has it been tuned? and can you post a graph. Was it every thing you hoped for?
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Tuned by MTI wh did the install. Yes and no on everything hoped for. I wanted more out of the setup but you never get what others get. Overall I am happy with the setup. It drives almost like stock except when you put your foot down. I do think the stock 2" exhaust is costing me about 10rwhp so then I would be about 430rwhp and if went to the fast 90mm setup maybe another 10 to be at 440rwhp. Who knows. I plan on adding these in the future. I will eventually be going to a 408 or 427 for this car to get the power I really want. But it is a good set of heads down low it is reall punchy and the claims from the higher velocity are right on. I would definitely do it again. Just with a bigger cam or custom cam from EDC.
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Here is my dyo graph for you.
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/268138-429-2-rwhp-397-4-rwtq-gto.html

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Funny you point this out. I was reading it about 1 HR ago.And passed it on to another GTO guy. I was about to PM you. Will that combo pass Ca. smog? If it will I think that it is what I am looking for.
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Ed,you beat me to it.I was just about to chime in about the setup.I love the cam,it has less lope than my old Stealth II.I don't know about a sniffer test but it must be very close.Once the car is warmed up,it sounds like it is a stock GTO with a loud exhaust.Has very little shake but the stock GTO has shake.
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Originally Posted by tonyb
Ed,you beat me to it.I was just about to chime in about the setup.I love the cam,it has less lope than my old Stealth II.I don't know about a sniffer test but it must be very close.Once the car is warmed up,it sounds like it is a stock GTO with a loud exhaust.Has very little shake but the stock GTO has shake.
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FTI custom cam. Is that one of Ed's
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Yes it is one of Eds.It is a baby 220/224 597/579 112LSA.I could only imagine what he can do if I was looking for a bigger grind.
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Originally Posted by tonyb
Yes it is one of Eds.It is a baby 220/224 597/579 112LSA.I could only imagine what he can do if I was looking for a bigger grind.
Anthony
Thank you, But I can't run a bigger cam in Ca. Even that one is questionable. I have been advised by a well known member to SUPERCHARGE it!! And be done with it.

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