Street Racing & Kill Stories - Man, these streets are gettin' mean (Future Races)

Hey everyone. The streets around my house are gettin pretty mean. From what I've heard, there's a 9-second Nova cruisin' the neighborhood, and my buddy just set up two races for me with some badass cars. The first is this '03 Cobra. The driver is the Eminem wannabe that keeps talkin' shit, and need so badly to put him in his place. However, his car ain't stock. He's got a ported blower, smaller blower pulley, chip, cold air intake, and full exhaust. He's claim 490 @ the wheels...shouldn't it be higher with those mods? Anyway, his car's still heavy as hell, with IRS, and he's on street tires, so I MIGHT have a chance if I finish my exhaust and get my cam. Hopefully I can show him that real small blocks don't need power adders. Now for the second car...it's an '04 Evo VIII. He just ordered forged internals, a bigger turbo, bigger intercooler, boost controller, and a few other parts I can't remember right now. He ran a 13.1 BONE STOCK, and he's hoping for low 12's. I should nail him with a cam, but I still have yet to get said cam. I'll keep you all posted, but if this keeps up, I might get a small dry shot just for a backup plan.
Adam

Call me crazy, but it looks to me like you're going to need more than an exhaust and a cam to beat a 490rwhp Cobra. Go ahead and get that spray you were talking about.

Yeah you should use the spray.

Spray them away
BTLFEDSS

Call me crazy, but it looks to me like you're going to need more than an exhaust and a cam to beat a 490rwhp Cobra. Go ahead and get that spray you were talking about.

I've seem a cam-only LS! (Jagermeister's, I believe) walk two pullies Cobras and seen some similar races before, though you can't always go off of stuff like that. However, 490 rwhp does not go as far in an '03 Cobra as it does in an LS1. It's heavier, it has IRS, and for some reason, the power just doesn't seem to translate into quicker E.T.'s like it does with our cars. If I get the right cam I can probably hang with him, especially with my converter and good tuning, but a 100 shot can't hurt. Either way, I just want to shut this kid and his little estrogen-filled Mustang club up.

Hey, give it a shot man. If it were me, I'd want the bottle just in case.

If he has all of those mods he should be up around 510-535 RWHP. I make right at 490 RWHP with just a 2.8 pulley, tune, CAI and catback. The '03 Cobra's need about a 40 RWHP advantage to run with an F-body and usually can't get better than a 1.5 60' with stickies.

Are these cars running around chicago? Man i better get to work on these mods.

get some fuckin NAHHHZZZZZZZZZZZ , but really, spray or pray

You will definatley need to spray at least 100 shot... cam and exhaust will not get you there. :gruffy:

You will definatley need to spray at least 100 shot... cam and exhaust will not get you there. :gruffy:

100 shot? I don't know about all that. I'm gonna try it anyway.

I make right at 490 RWHP with just a 2.8 pulley, tune, CAI and catback.

Every time I see/hear that, I just wanna :bang:

I bet I spent more on my exhaust than you did for those few mods that got you those #'s. Damn, I need a blower!

Are these cars running around chicago? Man i better get to work on these mods.

Yes, they are, even though they're hidden among the 16-second Euro civics and other assorted automotive trash.

9s aint a thing amongst those old novas. At least around here most older novas that race are sporting big blocks and alot of them are in the 9s or better. They're lightweights, especially when gutted, and have alot of room for engine. Our cars have alot better street manners though. At high altitude dont mess with a forced induction car if it has more horse than you. If I remember right though chicago's pretty low you might have a decent chance with that cobra.

good luck man, ill pray for ya. i hate to say it but i have a feeling you'll need a lot to roll with that cobra and evo, evo's are no slouches stock...and bigger turbo, etc....well you know. in any case, spray em, anything can happen on the street, im pulling for ya.

good luck man, ill pray for ya. i hate to say it but i have a feeling you'll need a lot to roll with that cobra and evo, evo's are no slouches stock...and bigger turbo, etc....well you know. in any case, spray em, anything can happen on the street, im pulling for ya.

Thanks. Well, I'm ordering a TSP233/239 cam (again - with dual springs this time), trying to decide on either Edelbrock Victor or Mac mid-length headers/ORY, and looking into some Drag Radials. Gotta be ready in 2-3 weeks.

Every time I see/hear that, I just wanna :bang:

I bet I spent more on my exhaust than you did for those few mods that got you those #'s. Damn, I need a blower!


Yep, nothin' like FI. Can't get this shit to hook though.

i would get a 12 bolt at least if your gonna drop some dr'z.

Yeah, ive seen camd Z take out 03 cobras but its not always gonna be that way.... But very likely...

Also, the stock turbo on an EVO can handle up to 25-26psi effeciently. If he got a larger turbo its gonna have more lag but more more potential. With the forged internals and intercooler, i think both you and the cobra should watch out though..he can crank the boost way up.

either way, spend some insurance money and get your self a small shot.....kick down, hit fourth.....spray and hold on......they both have power adders, why cant you?

i would get a 12 bolt at least if your gonna drop some dr'z.


He has an auto. No need to blow $2000 on a 12-bolt for Drag radials on the street. If he was running slicks at the track, then a 12-bolt would be necessary.

Are these races going to be filmed? I think you'll definetly need more to hang with that Cobra.

I've seem a cam-only LS! (Jagermeister's, I believe) walk two pullies Cobras and seen some similar races before, though you can't always go off of stuff like that. However, 490 rwhp does not go as far in an '03 Cobra as it does in an LS1. It's heavier, it has IRS, and for some reason, the power just doesn't seem to translate into quicker E.T.'s like it does with our cars. If I get the right cam I can probably hang with him, especially with my converter and good tuning, but a 100 shot can't hurt. Either way, I just want to shut this kid and his little estrogen-filled Mustang club up.

Jager did not walk that cobra. The cobra started a gear lower and once in power held him to a dead heat. Jager made 400 at the time at the cobra made 450. I have the file downloaded onto my computer simply for the fact that I love hearing his car w/open headers.

He has an auto. No need to blow $2000 on a 12-bolt for Drag radials on the street. If he was running slicks at the track, then a 12-bolt would be necessary.

Are these races going to be filmed? I think you'll definetly need more to hang with that Cobra.

ah, yes even with the auto...

let see wat happens when he is at the line, punches it with the DR'z. Auto or m6, that power is gonna be transmitted to the rear end and well, lets pray your right.....

IMO, No Dr'z until new rear.......

IMO, No Dr'z until new rear.......

I agree a 12-bolt would be money well spent. I just said that though because he said he has 2-3 weeks to get ready for these races..and while a 12-bolt would protect his ass and give him piece of mind..it would also slow him down and cost him ~ 2k. DR's on the street will also spin somewhat off the line if he stalls it, so he won't dead hook. ANyway, not to get off topic.. :drive:

You WILL not win with just a cam and headers. I promise you that you are gonna get raped in front of all of your friends. I think you think a little too highly of your car, or a little too lowly of the 03 cobra. You better be buying a nitrous kit. Buy a small nitrous cam and some LT headers, DON'T fuck with the Mac midlengths and spray a 100 shot. If you hold out on the spray you are gonna get embarassed. I wouldn't recommend talking too much shit before the races. I'm telling you all of this because you're gonna embarass yourself and all other LSx's when he pulls buses on you.

I must agree. Get the spray. If he has all that he says he has and can drive his car, it's going to be pretty hard to beat him with just a cam. How much does your car weigh? If you have done some weight reductions then maybe, but if not I think your in for a fight. Let us know the outcome. I'll be pulling for you because you are an LS1 family member. I was also pulling for the Eagles but it didn't help. Let us know the results.

Good luck man! I can't wait to see how things turn out. Make sure you get a video. Watch out for that evo to though. With all that he won't only make low 12's but could very possibly make it into the 11's. Good luck!!

buul99ls1 unless you have more mods than your saying you are going to get ran over top of.

I'm gonna vote on the spray as well. If you've got a good stall, sticky tires, nice selected cam, and spray, you will rip him to pieces from a dead stop. Spray in second gear and he will watch you go bye bye.

On the street, it's tough to beat a LS1 with those mods. Especially if the fbody is a lightweight. Take the stereo system out of the back if you happen to have one.

you need to spray cobra to run with him, cam is not enough..
i got 03 Cobra and with just a pulley and cold air i ran 12.20 432rwhp.
490 should put him in mid 11s easy.
good luck..

you need to spray cobra to run with him, cam is not enough..
i got 03 Cobra and with just a pulley and cold air i ran 12.20 432rwhp.
490 should put him in mid 11s easy.
good luck..

nay, search for jagermiester and see his vids.....

back to topic, a cam only can beat a 03 cobra but with those mods and the evo (which i think might blow the doors of the cobra) you'll need the magic salsa for "safety" measures....

Not downing your car, but it will NOT hang with that snake if he has the power he claims to and he can drive. You WILL need to spray and then I'll say you have a close race on your hands.

Tell ya what...if you want a warm up race I know a guy in Chicago with a blown GT automatic, that'd be willing to run you. Let me know!

Good choice on the cam, and it'll work real well with the spray. If it were me, I'd want a good 3200 or higher stall TC, a 12 bolt and gears, the cam and a 150 wet shot. Being that's a lot of cash, you should be safe with a 150 shot. Unless of course the snakes got some goodies he didn't tell you a bout.

Hey, I'll sell you my TNT kit if you want it. $700 shipped for the kit, with a PRO purge ($200 by itself), bottle warmer, MSD switch, pills, and a pre-cut MTI Clear lid. $1300+ brand new + shipping.

OBZD.... juggernaut is an exception. He is running a huge stall, slicks, high redline, lightened up and a BIG ASS cam. When my car was cam-only, it never ran like that.

Damn that's a sweet ass deal for that TNT kit....if it'd fit my goat I'd probably jump on it.

Hey everyone. The streets around my house are gettin pretty mean. From what I've heard, there's a 9-second Nova cruisin' the neighborhood, and my buddy just set up two races for me with some badass cars. The first is this '03 Cobra. The driver is the Eminem wannabe that keeps talkin' shit, and need so badly to put him in his place. However, his car ain't stock. He's got a ported blower, smaller blower pulley, chip, cold air intake, and full exhaust. He's claim 490 @ the wheels...shouldn't it be higher with those mods? Anyway, his car's still heavy as hell, with IRS, and he's on street tires, so I MIGHT have a chance if I finish my exhaust and get my cam. Hopefully I can show him that real small blocks don't need power adders. Now for the second car...it's an '04 Evo VIII. He just ordered forged internals, a bigger turbo, bigger intercooler, boost controller, and a few other parts I can't remember right now. He ran a 13.1 BONE STOCK, and he's hoping for low 12's. I should nail him with a cam, but I still have yet to get said cam. I'll keep you all posted, but if this keeps up, I might get a small dry shot just for a backup plan.
Adam

Adam, just tell them you drive a silver Z and we'll split the money. :eyes: Duh.

:)

Not joking,
Fernando

Not downing your car, but it will NOT hang with that snake if he has the power he claims to and he can drive. You WILL need to spray and then I'll say you have a close race on your hands.

Tell ya what...if you want a warm up race I know a guy in Chicago with a blown GT automatic, that'd be willing to run you. Let me know!


:) ............ :devil:

:) ............ :devil:
You don't know of any fast GT's do ya Joe? :jest:

You don't know of any fast GT's do ya Joe? :jest:
Nope mine is a turd..

BTW we also got an 03 with full bolt-on with no ported blower, he in the mid to upper 400rwhp also.

Hmmmmm seems like a possible race for the thread starter here....I mean y'all ARE in Chi-town! :devil:

I'll be down like James Brown. PM me if any of you guys want to run this season. ;)

Im always down. but with cars in my league..... :)

same here, but I'm in beantown not chicago. :(

Adam, just tell them you drive a silver Z and we'll split the money. :eyes: Duh.

:)

Not joking,
Fernando

Haha, sounds good. That beast'd kill him. Though the LT1 I'm picking up later in the week will hold him off too.

Nope mine is a turd..

BTW we also got an 03 with full bolt-on with no ported blower, he in the mid to upper 400rwhp also.


I might be willing to run ya once I change the cam in the LT1 I'm getting.

Im always down. but with cars in my league..... :)

Blown Mustang versus an LS1? I think that's a good race. If they both have traction.

Let me know bro. :secret:

I might be willing to run ya once I change the cam in the LT1 I'm getting.
Sounds good but I want a shot at the LS1 also, cause it sounds like your buildin the shit outta the LT1.

Blown Mustang versus an LS1? I think that's a good race. If they both have traction.

Let me know bro. :secret:
Ive heard alittle about your car and im not sure it be a good race, but ya never know we got some time here its still cold and I have a few tricks also, it might not be enough but its a shot...

Soon enough we'll talk then.

Ive heard alittle about your car and im not sure it be a good race, but ya never know we got some time here its still cold and I have a few tricks also, it might not be enough but its a shot...

Soon enough we'll talk then.

Sounds good. :nod:

dont believe shit till you see it. I was gonna get whooped at the local street car shootout at Steele and won only running 10.5s all day. All the 9 second cars ran 11s that day.

Looks like you have some nice races lined up Joe.....damn shame you won't be around when I come up to Chi-town this year. Would love to get a ride in your car and see how it feels compared to my old Cobra.

Looks like you have some nice races lined up Joe.....damn shame you won't be around when I come up to Chi-town this year. Would love to get a ride in your car and see how it feels compared to my old Cobra.
Yeah I actually got a shit load set up already, a few other guys I beat last year want some more :eyes:

Rematches are ALWAYS fun....never know what the hell people do over the winter months. Looks like I have a few runs lined up for when I hit Chi-town. Think I may have to keep my future bottle on the DL from the GMvsFord crew? :D

Rematches are ALWAYS fun....never know what the hell people do over the winter months. Looks like I have a few runs lined up for when I hit Chi-town. Think I may have to keep my future bottle on the DL from the GMvsFord crew? :D
Yep, thats what I would do if I owned the goat...Spray the fuck outta it. I'll never do a turbo LS1 anymore that was a damn head ache.

good luck man, ill pray for ya. i hate to say it but i have a feeling you'll need a lot to roll with that cobra and evo, evo's are no slouches stock...and bigger turbo, etc....well you know. in any case, spray em, anything can happen on the street, im pulling for ya.

I grilled an evo w/ my stock LS1 that had 85K miles on it...
:cheers: tho

-Matt

Evo's are complete turds, you are so right... But it just so happens that I have a turd of an evo in the chitown area that is up to racing some of these LS1\LT1's. As far as a stock evo vs a stock ls1, that would come down to driver, and I doubt either one was completly stock.


I grilled an evo w/ my stock LS1 that had 85K miles on it...
:cheers: tho

-Matt

Evo's are complete turds, you are so right... But it just so happens that I have a turd of an evo in the chitown area that is up to racing some of these LS1\LT1's. As far as a stock evo vs a stock ls1, that would come down to driver, and I doubt either one was completly stock.
In the 1/4 I agree with ya, a well driven evo with be close but not from a roll.

BTW Im not a fan of roll racin...

Where ya from in chi-town??

I'm out in Addison IL. Pretty close to E&R, and Streetstuff if you know thoes shops.

In the 1/4 I agree with ya, a well driven evo with be close but not from a roll.

BTW Im not a fan of roll racin...

Where ya from in chi-town??

I'm out in Addison IL. Pretty close to E&R, and Streetstuff if you know thoes shops.
Yep I know where its at, Im from Bridgeport by sox park.

I wouldn't mind a little run :)

Yep I know where its at, Im from Bridgeport by sox park.

I wouldn't mind a little run :)


I'm always willing to accomadate. You got that 2nd adder running yet? :)

I'm always willing to accomadate. You got that 2nd adder running yet? :)
Will soon, I wont turn nothin down if you offer :)

Will soon, I wont turn nothin down if you offer :)


You going to be at the first RSD this season?

You going to be at the first RSD this season?
Im hopin, Im upgrading my fuel system again now (that don't take long) but I gotta tune it again too so Im hopin...

Looks like Im gettin in over my head again :bang: , but it cool. Id run a school bus... :)

One question, you might not wanna answer but are you on a stock turbo??I Know what I can do with one with close to max on a stock turbo (no spray).

Im hopin, Im upgrading my fuel system again now (that don't take long) but I gotta tune it again too so Im hopin...

Looks like Im gettin in over my head again :bang: , but it cool. Id run a school bus... :)

One question, you might not wanna answer but are you on a stock turbo??I Know what I can do with one with close to max on a stock turbo (no spray).

You shouldn't be over your head with two adders on a sbf.. I'm not on a stock turbo, but still only 121ci stock engine and only boost. :joecool: