iwantLS1

iTrader: (7)

Story:

I have a buddy of mine with 01 SS that waited 2.5 seconds (RT) because he wanted to make sure he gets a good launch after doing mods to the car. His ET was 11.8 in the 1/4 mile. My other friend (drives TT300zx) said if his reaction time was less than a second then he would have been high tens. He always do bracket racing on import events so I dont know if the rule varies between imports and domestics. Someone help me out here. I want to explain to him how this works. Thanks!

Loudmouth LS1

iTrader: (10)

Tell him to take his car to the track on a t&t night and launch like he normally would with his reaction time, and then on the next pass to wait like 5 seconds or so after the lights come down and then launch and tell him to look at his slip and see if the times are any different, that'll prove to him that the clock doesn't start till ya break the beams!

Steve Burger

iTrader: (33)

Have him ask ANY track official.

slow3hoe2

iTrader: (3)

or just break his nose for being an idiot

ONGRNGO

iwantLS1

iTrader: (7)

Thanks for the replies! So if doing a bracket racing, RT still wont affect ET. He will try it next time he is at the track. He's been on a lot of bracket racing so I was surprised to know that he didn't know about this.

SStillSSmokin

In bracket racing RT still does not affect ET, BUT, it does factor into your time.
EXPLANATION: Bracket racing combines RT AND ET to determine the winner/loser.

timelord

""He's been on a lot of bracket racing so I was surprised to know that he didn't know about this"".

In that case then,he is an idiot!!!!!

Holeshotz

iTrader: (1)

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say he has never won a bracket event.

Villain281H

iTrader: (5)

That'd probably be a safe bet. Reaction time is just that: how well you react to the green light (or to be correct, the time between the 3rd amber and green light). If you react better to the green than your opponent and you both run the same et, you'll get to the finish line first. Take that rational and apply it to bracket racing and you can see where the RT factors in in helping determine winners and losers.

Derek

TWS

iTrader: (63)

I've come across some folks at the track who didn't know that, but they were usually pretty new to racing. This guy who has "done a lot of bracket racing" either hasn't or is a complete idiot.

The information about him being an import guy explains a lot.

Holeshotz

iTrader: (1)

Bracket racing is 75% reaction time 25% dialing your car in. Wanna see some of the worst reaction times, go to an import event. they think a .200 light is good. I'm not happy unless I'm .040 or less.

Villain281H

iTrader: (5)

I disagree. Bracket racing is 50% reaction time, 40% dialing (not many people can sandbag effectively), and 10% luck

Coach 02 A3 Z/28

iTrader: (10)

Maybe it should look like this;

50% reaction time,20% dialing the car and 30% LUCK!!!!!!!

The last one is the most important of all!

Coach

Villain281H

iTrader: (5)

Coach, I could agree with that. I guess it depends what, where, when and who you are racing.

Derek

InsuranceGuy

Yes, RT can effect ET, its all in the staging.

Depending on your staging technique, deep vs. shallow,
this could amount to several hundreds of a second.

A shallow stage gives you a longer rollout thereby giving you
more of a running start(quicker ET) but a worse RT. A deep stage eliminates
your running start(slower ET)but a better RT.

Emil "bracketcar" Dusek

Nine Ball

iTrader: (38)

Hi there Emil, good to see you around! Haven't seen you since '99 back in the HFB days.

Tony

InsuranceGuy

Hi Tony,

I've just been lurking, but had to respond to this
ET vs RT topic.

Emil

68maro

yes but the staging is just that staging. reaction time does not effect e.t. no matter what you can sit there all day and cut the same time as if you ran a .00 if you staged the same both passes and even staging different is only going to affect a few thousandth of a second.

y2k_ta

iTrader: (80)

I agree. The timers for elapsed time do not begin counting until you've left the "staged" beam at the starting line.