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Old 02-27-2005, 01:17 AM
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Both of my friends have have these cars, and this is how the race went last night.

LS1 jumped out in first a car, LT catches up to the door by second, third gear LT's nose is on the LS's fender, fourth gear nose to nose. TIE!!! at 130mph

Lt was coming on slow, but still coming, on 2.73 gears!!(4.10's in two weeks, along with a 58tb)

LT1- 97TA m6 2.73's, LE2 heads cam,headers, 3500race weight

LS1-00 Formula m6 3.42's ported heads, cam, headers,3550 race weight (DYNOED 400.8hp 395TW)

Needless to say the LS was not happy, that the LT kept up so well
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How does it have 2.73 gears and an M6 trans? The only year that could happen was 1993 and even then all Trans Ams were 3.23 cars regardless of trans. After 1994 all T-56 cars were 3.42 rear geared standard due to the change in 1st to 4th gearing made in 94 to all T-56s. Unless he swaped that rear in, its gonna have 3.42s.
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Originally Posted by roadtrip120
Both of my friends have have these cars, and this is how the race went last night.

LS1 jumped out in first a car, LT catches up to the door by second, third gear LT's nose is on the LS's fender, fourth gear nose to nose. TIE!!! at 130mph

Lt was coming on slow, but still coming, on 2.73 gears!!(4.10's in two weeks, along with a 58tb)

LT1- 97TA m6 2.73's, LE2 heads cam,headers, 3500race weight

LS1-00 Formula m6 3.42's ported heads, cam, headers,3550 race weight (DYNOED 400.8hp 395TW)

Needless to say the LS was not happy, that the LT kept up so well
Is that a misprint? Do you mean 3.73s?
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Nice...wondering about the gear as well.
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Dont be fooled by lt1's they still the ****. Its still a small block chevy been around for a long time.
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Originally Posted by 98z28hispanic
Dont be fooled by lt1's they still the ****. Its still a small block chevy been around for a long time.

Misread the post. So true

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Proud LT owner here. Wouldn't have it any other way!

Also wondering about the gears... I hope for the LS1's sake that he ment 3.73s
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Awesome race, like they said, cant underestimate the ol' LT1. Well you can mine, but hopefull not by this summer!
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Update

The Lt1 TA has 2.73's the stock 3.42 blew up at the track and we pull a junk rear end out of a 94 auto.

Rerace
Both of my friends reraced yesterday this time the LT1 TA had his 4.10's.
LS is same as last race

LS1 WINS??

THE LT was shifting all the damn time while the LS kept pulling in the gears. LT was comming in 4th but ran out of gear, NO power past 6600rpm.

All i can fiugre is the Lt is under horsepowered and since the 4.10's favor the high revs and high hp it slowed the car down. Maybe the high LT1 torque was better for the 2.73's.

2.73 to 4.10's are slower on the street, track better be a different story.

O ya, we are dynoing the LT1 wed. so i will post some numbers then

Any quess on the numbers???
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man that LT with 4.10's should have pulled like a mad man through the lower speeds and gears!!!! idk...i like my 4.10's and i have em in an A4....pulls nice at the higher rpms
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Originally Posted by roadtrip120
Update

The Lt1 TA has 2.73's the stock 3.42 blew up at the track and we pull a junk rear end out of a 94 auto.

Rerace
Both of my friends reraced yesterday this time the LT1 TA had his 4.10's.
LS is same as last race

LS1 WINS??

THE LT was shifting all the damn time while the LS kept pulling in the gears. LT was comming in 4th but ran out of gear, NO power past 6600rpm.

All i can fiugre is the Lt is under horsepowered and since the 4.10's favor the high revs and high hp it slowed the car down. Maybe the high LT1 torque was better for the 2.73's.

2.73 to 4.10's are slower on the street, track better be a different story.

O ya, we are dynoing the LT1 wed. so i will post some numbers then

Any quess on the numbers???
I think 3.42s would be just right for the LT1 car. Also, I think with the 4.10s in there, he will dyno about 340-360 rwhp.
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Originally Posted by toxic99
I think 3.42s would be just right for the LT1 car. Also, I think with the 4.10s in there, he will dyno about 340-360 rwhp.
It would take more than 340-360rwhp to pull a heads/cam LS1 car. My old LE heads and less aggressive off the shelf cam made 383rwhp/353rwtq with 3.73 gear and mailorder tuning.

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Originally Posted by toxic99
I think 3.42s would be just right for the LT1 car. Also, I think with the 4.10s in there, he will dyno about 340-360 rwhp.
With that setup he should dyno in the 400-420 RWHP range. Don't see 4.10s eating up 60 RWHP.
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LT1 dynoed

401hp 360 tq
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Originally Posted by roadtrip120
Update

The Lt1 TA has 2.73's the stock 3.42 blew up at the track and we pull a junk rear end out of a 94 auto.

Rerace
Both of my friends reraced yesterday this time the LT1 TA had his 4.10's.
LS is same as last race

LS1 WINS??

THE LT was shifting all the damn time while the LS kept pulling in the gears. LT was comming in 4th but ran out of gear, NO power past 6600rpm.

All i can fiugre is the Lt is under horsepowered and since the 4.10's favor the high revs and high hp it slowed the car down. Maybe the high LT1 torque was better for the 2.73's.

2.73 to 4.10's are slower on the street, track better be a different story.

O ya, we are dynoing the LT1 wed. so i will post some numbers then

Any quess on the numbers???
this just my .02 but i dont think id like the 4.10 like u said...and ive heard that its just too much shiftin.....not to mention my car IS a daliy driver...that **** would get annyoing as ****...id go 3.73 but no more...but like i said just my 02.
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Originally Posted by roadtrip120
LT1 dynoed

401hp 360 tq
No wonder it was such a good race. 401 vs 400.8
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Actually it sounds like 4.10s are too much gear for that LT1. What probably happened is that the 4.10s were causing the LT1 to get through the gears so fast he hit 5th. 5th is a definite disadvantage to 4th that's a big drop down in gearing and with the other guy still in 4th the LS1 is pulling harder at that rate causing the loss. That's what I see. 4.10s are no gear for high speeds that's for sure. Did the LT1 pull the LS1 pretty good off the line for a while at least?
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Originally Posted by toxic99
I think 3.42s would be just right for the LT1 car. Also, I think with the 4.10s in there, he will dyno about 340-360 rwhp.
when I first got my car I added long tubes, cc306 and a tune and it made 364rwhp with stock heads



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