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Old 02-27-2005, 06:58 PM
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Can you add wheel screws to prevent the slicks from rotating on the wheel without breaking the combo down?
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Old 02-27-2005, 07:01 PM
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if you mean drill them while the tire is on! yes you can and its the way to do it
since you cant drill through the tire with out air in it
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I won't suggest it.
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Originally Posted by WILWAXU
I won't suggest it.
I thought you had to screw with the tires on???
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Originally Posted by lilone
I thought you had to screw with the tires on???
You have to drill holes in the rims first
Old 02-28-2005, 12:42 PM
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Another vote for rims only.

There's also a real easy way to make a template. Place a piece of newspaper on the ground. Put the rim on it and trace around the rim. Cut out the circle and then fold it twice and it will resemble a pie slice. On the outside edge, punch holes in the corners and one in the middle. Unfold it and tape it to your rim to mark. Voila, evenly spaced holes.
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They sell the templates too.

Why can't u air the tires down to nothing and then drill the wheels?
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
They sell the templates too.

Why can't u air the tires down to nothing and then drill the wheels?
you could do that.

the only problem i see is you need to debur the back of the holes after drilling them, and it might be a little difficult to get in there with the tire in the way. "can" it be done? yes. would i do it? no...but then agian i have access to a tire machine
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I have drilled/screwed dozens of wheels with the tires on and aired up, just put a piece of vacuum line over the bit so it only goes in to the edge of the rim and just touches the tire. You will have to clean the aluminum shavings out of the bit because they will collect in the rubber tubing but thats it.
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I've seen some folks drill and screw while the tire is still on the rim but I won't do it. While the tire is OFF the rim I drill, debur, I then install the screws, take the screws out and debur again. I certainly wouldn't want that extra metal scrap between my tire and rim.

I then mount the tires and air them up to about 20 lbs and run the screws in with a ratchet. Done. I read those directions I follow somewhere
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We dont do them w/the tire on the rim...The tool for drilling a rim was cheap so we bought and use it.We then chamfer all the holes on BOTH sides,run a tap threw them and mount/screw them up...
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You are putting big steel screws into the side of your tire and you are afraid of a burr from aluminum messing something up?

Hope you guys dont charge by the hour
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No we do it if people run a tube,the burr is just in case the tube were to pinch the tube.
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doing it right the first time...as described above with drilling, tapping etc...will provide a long life of screwing and unscrewing tires with out the holes getting messed up. I mount up tires for friends all the time at my bro's shop. Some guys that are idiots and dont do the holes right...most of their screw holes are stripped out and fugged up. Do it right the first time, or be an idiot with $1k rims.
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Are you guys making this stuff up? A sheet metal tap? Ok I'll bite, where does one buy a #14 sheet metal tap? Any pics of this tap you guys use?


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HMMM, tapping? Never heard of that. But anyway, here are the instructions for rim screwing on MT's web site. Go to the tech section and it's about 3 or 4 set of instructions down. They use 12 screws per side and I use 8 but the procedure is pretty close to what I said above. I don't use tubes so I want my sealing surface to be clean.

http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/index.html
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Originally Posted by S_J_H
Are you guys making this stuff up? A sheet metal tap? Ok I'll bite, where does one buy a #14 sheet metal tap? Any pics of this tap you guys use?


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sorry. they give you 2 extra screws to run through all the holes...acting like a tap.

do what ever you wanna do. some people are smart...some are not. i have a set of rims that ive screwed and unscrewed dozens of time and the holes are still perfect. then i have guys bring me rims that the holes are all fugged up...prolly from over tightening the screws. but still...if you take ur time and do it right it comes out perfect.
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Doing it with the tires on the wheels has nothing to do with taking your time. I have seen people screw up drilling their wheels with no tires on them also. The more you screw and unscrew them the more the more the holes will get buggered up - doing it with the tires on or off that car the first time has nothing to do with it. Phil asked if it can be done with the tires on, YES it can be done, and it can be done nicely.
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I just used the Mr. Gasket kit to do my wheels. It comes with the drill bit and screws. I used a piece of cardboard to make a wheel template.



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