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Old 03-10-2005, 12:27 AM
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Thought it would be nice to get all those who have this cam to post numbers, and what mods. Along with vids of dyno, idle, and anything else. Maybe post what you have set as your idle.

I am having mine tuned on the 15th and just wanted some to compare to all in one thread
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i have my idle at 1000 on the gauge, but it's about 825 on hp tuners. I have no numbers yet, but i raced an 03 cobra with a pulley, cai, catback, and drag radials and i stayed nose to bumper (he pulled a car dead out of the hole) to about 110.

That was when the factory rev limiter was still in place and i hadn't done any tuning. I just started tuning it last night and it pulls like a raped mongoose at 4 grand.

I have a couple vids but have nobody to host em for me...one with open headers just cruising, one with open headers idling, one with exhaust idling and a few others.

What all are your supporting mods?

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I have:

Lid
magnaflo exhaust
e-cutout
Hooker LT's
ti retainers
double springs
hardened pushrods
ported ls6 oil pump
ls6 intake

No numbers yet of course since tuning is next week
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Originally Posted by taufern
i have my idle at 1000 on the gauge, but it's about 825 on hp tuners. I have no numbers yet, but i raced an 03 cobra with a pulley, cai, catback, and drag radials and i stayed nose to bumper (he pulled a car dead out of the hole) to about 110.

That was when the factory rev limiter was still in place and i hadn't done any tuning. I just started tuning it last night and it pulls like a raped mongoose at 4 grand.

I have a couple vids but have nobody to host em for me...one with open headers just cruising, one with open headers idling, one with exhaust idling and a few others.

What all are your supporting mods?

Nate
If you want to, email them to me & I can host them.
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Originally Posted by Fad2blk_98
Thought it would be nice to get all those who have this cam to post numbers, and what mods. Along with vids of dyno, idle, and anything else. Maybe post what you have set as your idle.
I am having mine tuned on the 15th and just wanted some to compare to all in one thread
My idle is set at 900 through pcmforless tuning. My numbers are 398 RWHP/ 357 RWTQ running on a 14:1 AFR. I am installing ASP pulley and ported TB tomorrow and intend to return to the dyno along w/ an updated tune (hopefully fixed the lean condition). This will finish all bolt-ons but I doubt I'll get near the 400 RWTQ that TSP put out.
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Good luck! Let us know how it goes
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dyno vid.
http://www.fbodyvideo.com/video/requested/dynovid.MOV



here is a start/rev/idle vid.
http://www.ls1sounds.com/true_duals.htm

3rd one down, says this:
'99 Z28 Pacesetter
LT TSP Rumbler X TSP Spiral Wound
(dumped) TSP 233/239 cam (383rwhp, 374rwtq)

mods in sig.

900 idle

graph:
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Hugger 1975, is that 309 on the graph before bolt ons and cam or just before cam/tuning? Looks like you picked up significant power ALL the way from 3k up, nice gains, I don't see a loss of low speed torque with that big ole cam in there, do you feel one? Looks good to me. Are you running the LS6 intake?
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Also is that a stock pulley, MAF and TB?
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Originally Posted by Vortech5300
Hugger 1975, is that 309 on the graph before bolt ons and cam or just before cam/tuning? Looks like you picked up significant power ALL the way from 3k up, nice gains, I don't see a loss of low speed torque with that big ole cam in there, do you feel one? Looks good to me. Are you running the LS6 intake?
well the 309 is only lid, gears, shorties and no muffler.

so i picked up 74hp w/cam and change to LT's...............




and no tb, no intake, and no pulley................

the cam does not like less than 1300rpms
but who stays there anyway?
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Originally Posted by hugger1975
well the 309 is only lid, gears, shorties and no muffler.
so i picked up 74hp w/cam and change to LT's...............
and no tb, no intake, and no pulley................
the cam does not like less than 1300rpms
but who stays there anyway?
Looks like w/ the addition of the LS6 intake, TB, and pulley you might actually be close to the torque numbers TSP advertises. I'll be happy to hit 380 w/ the TB, pulley, and better tune!
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Red99, I will be happy if I match your numbers with the same parts(other then slightly different cam). Actually I want 2 more hp then you( ) so I can break 400 but....I want 400 with the stock TB, MAF and pulley. Hopefully G-force can tune well and make good HP without having to have it lean just to make good dyno #s.
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Originally Posted by Vortech5300
Red99, I will be happy if I match your numbers with the same parts(other then slightly different cam). Actually I want 2 more hp then you( ) so I can break 400 but....I want 400 with the stock TB, MAF and pulley. Hopefully G-force can tune well and make good HP without having to have it lean just to make good dyno #s.
I didn't know my mail order tune was so lean until I had it dynoed. Hopefully with the addition of some fuel the torque will increase whereas I know the HP will drop some. That's where the TB and pulley come into play. I'm hoping the HP will still peak at 400 (or more) while the TQ picks up to at LEAST 375.
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You guys numbers look good. I'm so mad I had to sell mine to build the new tranny. I'm still thinking I'll get another one after everything's fixed. Just as well I guess, with this power it looks like I would have needed a trans anyway :shrug:

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Re99, ,what was your air fuel ratio like? I wasn't talking about your air fuel mix being lean, I was speaking hypothetically. In the world of Hayabusas, a dyno tuners trick is to lean em out, it shows more HP on the dyno but it run slower at the strip, especially on top end where ram air comes to play. ON the busas we set em up to 12.7-12.9-1 air fuel on a NA motor(not strokers or REALLY big bores, those get 12.3-12.5-1 ar) and for the nitrous or turbos they get 11.7-12.0-1 to be safe. My turbo is running out of injector so about 9600 it leans out from 12.1-1 to about 13.0 at the limiter which is really too lean but...$$ need injectors. This is at 287rwhp.

I don't want my car to have detonation problems since they are prone to pinging anyway. Gonna have Mike at G-force set it up a tad fat for safety. Especially since I will be spraying one fitty.
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Originally Posted by Red99TA
Looks like w/ the addition of the LS6 intake, TB, and pulley you might actually be close to the torque numbers TSP advertises. I'll be happy to hit 380 w/ the TB, pulley, and better tune!



i believe so.
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Originally Posted by Vortech5300
Re99, ,what was your air fuel ratio like? I wasn't talking about your air fuel mix being lean, I was speaking hypothetically. In the world of Hayabusas, a dyno tuners trick is to lean em out, it shows more HP on the dyno but it run slower at the strip, especially on top end where ram air comes to play. ON the busas we set em up to 12.7-12.9-1 air fuel on a NA motor(not strokers or REALLY big bores, those get 12.3-12.5-1 ar) and for the nitrous or turbos they get 11.7-12.0-1 to be safe. My turbo is running out of injector so about 9600 it leans out from 12.1-1 to about 13.0 at the limiter which is really too lean but...$$ need injectors. This is at 287rwhp.
My AFR was at least 14:1 on the first 2 runs and then the 3rd run (after it sat for 15 minutes) it was up to almost 15:1!!! I sent the graph to Bryan at PCMforless and he fattened up the tune for me. I can't believe you ride a busa w/ 287 RWHP...You must have ***** of steel!!! I think my 954RR is plenty with around 135 RWHP.
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My dyno #'s were 401 rwhp & 352 rwhp through a locked A4.
This was with full bolt ons minus EWP.
My cam seems to peak a little higher than the others at 6500.
My idle is at 850 rpms on the dash.
This cam pulls like a monster on the big end. I'm expecting 11's with out too much trouble when I get some sticky tires.

I've got some vids if someone wants to host...

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Whats bad is when I turned the bike down to 7-8lbs it was making 240hp and it was really boring to ride believe it or not. With the big spring (10lb) its making about 10-12psi but it spools much faster with the extra pressure on the gate and makes it a lot of fun on the street. Thats my main money pit, this car is just my "cruiser". hopefully it will be a 400hp cruiser.
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Was somebody able to host those vids yet? I'd really like to hear the 850 idle, bet it lopes real nice



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