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Hey guys. I'm going to be completing my bolt-ons as money and time allow. I was just wondering how much more power I can make before the cam.

Current mods: Pacesetter Race LT's, TSP TD's, 160* Powerstat, FRA, K&N Filter, NGK TR-55's, SLP Lid, all this through a stock 10-bolt with 3.73 Precision Gears. Car has been dyno tuned by gomer.

I dynoed the #'s in sig with all this on there.

Forthcoming mods: Bo White Ported TB, LS6 intake, ASP Crank Pulley

How much will I put to the ground? I was thinking somewhere in the 350-ish range.

Anybody got any ideas?

Wicked_Hugger99

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yea, id say at least mid 340s rwhp

obZidian

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yeah, that sounds about right. Your biggest increase will come from the intake....maybe 5-8hp from the tb...

pulley= no hp gains

Wicked_Hugger99

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ud pulley-some do gain, some dont( I gained 5rwhp w/ my old 99 a4 Z with usual bolt-ons, stock cam at the time.) but i bet once he gets a cam it would def gain hp.
Ported stock Tb on a bolt-on only car id think maybe 2-3rwhp
I do agree that the LS6 intake will be the biggest gain maker!! Future cam will luv it to

setxws6

A full bolt-on/freemod LS1 with the right tune, can easily be 350-360 rwhp on an M6. That's when you get your cam and bring that number up to the 400 mark.

Wicked_Hugger99

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setxws6--he's got an A4 though
Jet Black, are you the one that JNorris was tellin me was lookin for a spare 12-bolt w/ 3.42s? i got one but its from a 6sp car

Keenov

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I disagree. With the stock heads I am only making 367rwhp with a cam and full bolt ons.

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Not me. I'm gonna ride this 10 bolt 'til it pops like a camel's cherry at a Al Qaeda meeting.

Oh, and I know I'll get some good power once I get the cam in. I think that I've finally decided. I'll more than likely (99% sure) be getting the TSP 225

Bo White

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The least amount I have seen from one of my TBs is 6rwhp and that was posted here not too long ago. www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296958 I am sure there maybe some instances where you may not get as much gain at the ground but I have done alot of testing locally and 7.7rwhp is the usual gain(not average) and the most I have seen is 10-12rwhp on modded cars. If 2-3 hp is all a ported TB would produce I wouldnt be wasteing my time doin em. When I get yours to be done meet me at the dyno in Trussville for a back-to-back test, if you dont get at least 5 Ill give you your money back

Crazy Man

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I usually get 8hp with my tbs depending on setup......When I went to a ls6 intake headers and true duals i gained 53 hp at the wheels went from 340hp cam only to 393 with headers and intake.....

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Hey Bo, how's next Sunday for ya? Is Walker open on Sundays?

Just PM me with a time and directions if you can do it.

Bo White

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Well just as soon as I get some of these cores of mine back Ill get with Walkers and see. Ill be in touch.

Wicked_Hugger99

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i know ported TBs do great on cam only(thats why i got 1), H/C setups, FI, etc...but i just didnt think w/ bolt-ons it'd gain that much but im no expert where as you are Mr. Bo White( im not sayin that in a condesendin way either, its a compliment like saying id believe you over myself)...wasnt tryin to say ported TBs are wastes of dough.

setxws6

I'm guessing you haven't had your's tuned? I haven't seen that low a number on a full bolt on with cam car, ever. The lowest numbers I've seen is about low 380s whp. How many miles are on your 98? Could be a tune problem or a lose in compression over the years. Of coarse I know a guy with a 98 that has 140k on his M6 LS1 and he still made 389 with cam and all bolt ons.

Wicked_Hugger99

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yea Keenov, seems to me ya should be makin more power despite that bein a 224 cam, its still capable of 380s w/ a good tune. but then again all cars dyno different. Its the ETs and MPH that count!!!!
Who tuned the car, Thunder Racing or someone local?

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FWIW, gomer tuned my car. Great guy, very professional. The price was very right too.

Wicked_Hugger99: PLEASE lemme know if you ever decide to bring the 99SS up here to MMP. I'd love to see that thing run. I've been itching to see a turbo F-body ever since I learned about them. I'd love to get a ride in it if possible.

Bo White

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I didnt take in anyway bad on your post. I also wasnt being anyway smart on mine, just lettin him know that Ive not had any have that low of a gain. This is a dynosheet from BigE's car that is bone stock down to the paper filter and muffler, no headers or tuning- his car is a M6 98 Formula:
www.portsculptor.com/dyna_en.html
His pulls are roughly 20 minutes apart, the time it takes to swap a TB including hookin the coolant lines back up.

8-Pack

Sorry for the delay Ill get yours in the mail today.

Wicked_Hugger99

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Ok cool deal. i just thought i might have upset ya w/ my ignorance. Glad we're cool

Wicked_Hugger99

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Im gonna as soon as i get her back. Mike is meeting up with GMHTP at the Year One event Apr22nd in Georiga ( if they dont go to chi-town before that) to do the shoot i think, and then Mike is gonna take me to MMP & teach me how to drive it since the fastest thing ive ever driven down the track had bout 400hp and since my back is still broken from my car accident 5 months ago! Hopefully be in late Apr at a TnT at MMP when we get the SS there.
I wanna see urs to, dont remember meeting you before. I met JNorris(nice guy, helped me out), guy with a hugger Z, and some guy with a silver Z on spray that ripped his front fender off at the top end of the track on an 11.0@122mph pass(weirdest thing ive seen in a long time) Think he works at Seco in Montgomery but not sure.