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ls1z15
04-03-2005, 09:45 PM
Ok i have one question there is this hotshot in town. He just bought his new 2005 Mustang Gt and everyday at work he shows up and says "wanna race ill kick your ass" . His car is brandnew i mean like no miles. My Trans Am WS6 has 31,000 miles on it. Im wondering with both of them being automatics what will the end results be if we race off the line? Just looking for some pointers. I have never lost a race and would like it to stay that way for a while.

compuvision02
04-03-2005, 10:31 PM
You will tear him apart, the 2005 Mustang GT's aren't anything special, tear him a new one! Go to work tomorrow and say, I am ready right now, let's go.

Midnight
04-03-2005, 10:45 PM
God damn shut that dumb fuck up

SLIKWS6
04-03-2005, 11:10 PM
put him in his place, I finally got the oppurtunity today with an 05, took off from about 40 and just embarrassed him,

I wish I could of gotten him at a stop light, Im sure it would be worse, as long as you drive the car right youll be just damn impressed, damn I was so happy to do that today

X2Z28
04-03-2005, 11:26 PM
ask him if he wants to put a little $$$$$ on it and then smoke his ass. If he is stock he doesn't stand a chance :)

LiteEmUp
04-04-2005, 12:24 AM
last i heard 05 gts are runnin 13.8 on its best run, i think it should be no contest, ws6 all the way, oh and if he thinks hes gonna "kick ur ass", then ask him to put a bill on it, then we will see what he says

ls1z15
04-04-2005, 09:22 AM
I took off work today im soo happy. Just took home 1000 in cash haha. stupid Beotch thinking he can whoop on the bird of prey. haha thanks for the pointers.

Going to buy a nice steak to celebrate the victory

compuvision02
04-04-2005, 10:35 AM
Sweet fucking deal man! So when do we get our cut for the insight? :devil:

PontiacFan
04-04-2005, 10:43 AM
1000 in cash, I smell something fishy, ...

(Now where in the hell is that 'bullshit' flag?!?, ...)

compuvision02
04-04-2005, 12:50 PM
Do you have the SLP OEM Dual/Dual exhaust ls1z15? If so, want to trade for a Loud Mouth?

Midnight
04-04-2005, 01:40 PM
You seriously got a grand for racing the fool. Take a picture of you holding the money.

anthonycds
04-04-2005, 01:59 PM
:suspiciou

compuvision02
04-04-2005, 04:02 PM
You seriously got a grand for racing the fool. Take a picture of you holding the money.

Next to your car. And why would you take the day off? So you can get fired and have $1,000?

slow
04-04-2005, 04:56 PM
wow $1000 for a 05 kill.

Ryan

ls1z15
04-04-2005, 09:29 PM
sorry didnt mean to put 100 bucks. By the way the person that i raced is my manager. And we put down that if i won that i would get the day off and 100 bux. It was a damn easy race. He thrashed with me until around 60 or so then i pulled ahead 3 car lengths by 120 ... I said we should have raced to top speed because he will shutoff at 143 and what i hear ls1's hit 175. Is this true?

00firebird
04-04-2005, 09:34 PM
if you have teh speed limiter removed, yes. good job whoopin dat ass

Midnight
04-04-2005, 09:58 PM
Haha you made your boss the bitch

NHRAMAN
04-04-2005, 10:07 PM
HE thrashed with you antil 60????did you have your parking brake on---didn't know they were that fast--if they are,a few more bucks and they'd be faster than a 2002 ws6???they are only supposed to be puttin out 300 at the flywheel??..

ls1z15
04-04-2005, 10:11 PM
he really didnt trash with me... i was like a car length on him at 60 im just saying its the best run a mustang gt has ever gave me. there 0-60s are 5.3 and quarters are 13.9 ... what should i be running?

compuvision02
04-05-2005, 07:36 AM
Do you have the SLP OEM Dual/Dual exhaust ls1z15? If so, want to trade for a Loud Mouth?

do you

LiquidSword
04-05-2005, 08:44 AM
HE thrashed with you antil 60????did you have your parking brake on---didn't know they were that fast--if they are,a few more bucks and they'd be faster than a 2002 ws6???they are only supposed to be puttin out 300 at the flywheel??..
From what I've seen and read, Mustangs have better gearingand get the advanage at the start.

Sorta similar to how LT1's have the low end and get the lead till about the 1/8 mile.

Fbody Man
04-05-2005, 08:56 AM
ls1's wont hit no 175 the fastest ive heard was 162 no gov.

ls1z15
04-05-2005, 09:01 AM
do you
what do you mean? like the stock exhaust or what?

00firebird
04-05-2005, 10:49 AM
he really didnt trash with me... i was like a car length on him at 60 im just saying its the best run a mustang gt has ever gave me. there 0-60s are 5.3 and quarters are 13.9 ... what should i be running?
i think a stock average is like 13.5 or a little less for ls1 T/A's

compuvision02
04-05-2005, 12:53 PM
Do you have the stock SLP exhaust?

Martingale
04-05-2005, 04:41 PM
HE thrashed with you antil 60????did you have your parking brake on---didn't know they were that fast--if they are,a few more bucks and they'd be faster than a 2002 ws6???they are only supposed to be puttin out 300 at the flywheel??..

On corral.net some of the '05 GT's ran 13.50's and 13.40's stock. Some guy went 13.47 @ 103.82 with a 5-speed. Another dude ran 13.21 @ 103 with just a diablo tune. Here's a vid:

http://www.chrisnamy.com/temp/cosworth.wmv

This automatic went 12.92 @ 106.5 a few weeks ago at an NMRA event with a cold air intake, chip, and pulleys...

http://www.alternativeauto.com/misc/05_gt_impressions.html

I think when the weather warms up and more '05 GT's get ET's we'll see that these cars are almost as fast as LS1 F-bodies. The early numbers they're putting down are a few tenths slower then your average stock LS1 ET. The problem these things have is the "drive by wire" throttle that has a very conservative program for drivetrain safety. It's like torque management. With a chip the '05's are pulling a lot harder. Plus the auto is a 5-speed auto with more gear down low then the old 4R70W 4-speed auto. I'd think an auto GT would be almost as fast as an A4/2.73 LS1. They're dynoing about 250rwhp but weigh less then F-bodies and have better gearing.

FelixIlka
04-06-2005, 09:53 PM
Is an A4 w/ 3.23 gears better than 2.73?

'Trust'
04-06-2005, 10:39 PM
Not for gas milage!

SoInTeNsE
04-07-2005, 03:24 AM
I think when the weather warms up and more '05 GT's get ET's we'll see that these cars are almost as fast as LS1 F-bodies. The early numbers they're putting down are a few tenths slower then your average stock LS1 ET. The problem these things have is the "drive by wire" throttle that has a very conservative program for drivetrain safety. It's like torque management. With a chip the '05's are pulling a lot harder. Plus the auto is a 5-speed auto with more gear down low then the old 4R70W 4-speed auto. I'd think an auto GT would be almost as fast as an A4/2.73 LS1. They're dynoing about 250rwhp but weigh less then F-bodies and have better gearing.

Very interesting.

Darksol
04-07-2005, 11:09 AM
ls1's wont hit no 175 the fastest ive heard was 162 no gov.
what he said :metoo:

Ant's-WS6
04-07-2005, 11:26 PM
You will tear him apart, the 2005 Mustang GT's aren't anything special, tear him a new one! Go to work tomorrow and say, I am ready right now, let's go.

:werd: Raced one with a 5 speed and he saw nothing but tail lights. Kid thought he was being all cool when he started throwin revs but wouldn't look at me when we meet up at he next light. They're faster then the 04's but they still lag. No prob for and 02 WS6. 05 Stangs and thier owners are so cute.. ;)

Ant's-WS6
04-07-2005, 11:36 PM
On corral.net some of the '05 GT's ran 13.50's and 13.40's stock. Some guy went 13.47 @ 103.82 with a 5-speed. Another dude ran 13.21 @ 103 with just a diablo tune. Here's a vid:

http://www.chrisnamy.com/temp/cosworth.wmv

This automatic went 12.92 @ 106.5 a few weeks ago at an NMRA event with a cold air intake, chip, and pulleys...

http://www.alternativeauto.com/misc/05_gt_impressions.html

I think when the weather warms up and more '05 GT's get ET's we'll see that these cars are almost as fast as LS1 F-bodies. The early numbers they're putting down are a few tenths slower then your average stock LS1 ET. The problem these things have is the "drive by wire" throttle that has a very conservative program for drivetrain safety. It's like torque management. With a chip the '05's are pulling a lot harder. Plus the auto is a 5-speed auto with more gear down low then the old 4R70W 4-speed auto. I'd think an auto GT would be almost as fast as an A4/2.73 LS1. They're dynoing about 250rwhp but weigh less then F-bodies and have better gearing.

I agree but still stock for stock, the LS1 is going to out gun it. My ex has an 05 GT and I'm not all that impressed. There's a lot of hype of how they can get 300 at the wheels with just a tune. But still it's a mod and a 400 dollar one at that. If it's true, 50 rwhp for 4 hundo is great but even the Mustang guys are having trouble believing this one.

TNTramair
04-09-2005, 11:04 AM
man i can never get one of these suckers to bite on a race...maybe i should take the GMMG off and put the stock stuff back on...:D.

1fstbird
04-10-2005, 07:59 PM
the 05 mustang gt's are a piece of junk there was a guy who brought one out to the track and only ran a 14.8 that was at 2700 feet. so in my opinion they suck

Coy
04-11-2005, 03:15 PM
there 0-60s are 5.3 and quarters are 13.9 ...

Magazine Race much

Coy
04-11-2005, 03:17 PM
05 Stangs and thier owners are so cute.. ;)

:jest: :)

Hayrab
04-13-2005, 12:53 PM
Ok i have one question there is this hotshot in town. He just bought his new 2005 Mustang Gt and everyday at work he shows up and says "wanna race ill kick your ass" . His car is brandnew i mean like no miles. My Trans Am WS6 has 31,000 miles on it. Im wondering with both of them being automatics what will the end results be if we race off the line? Just looking for some pointers. I have never lost a race and would like it to stay that way for a while.


Jeez is this guy ever going to stop polluting the forums?

WS62000
04-13-2005, 01:32 PM
And will he ever stop with the lies? Who is he trying to impress?

99blackbirdls1
04-14-2005, 11:13 PM
ill put it to you this way my license plate says 8apony ............ so what do you think

MuTiLaToR
04-15-2005, 08:22 AM
To whoever was asking about the slp oem dual/dual exhaust i have it and im doing a Lt Header and True dual setup if your intrested in buying lmk...

TORNATIC!!
04-15-2005, 09:55 AM
sorry didnt mean to put 100 bucks. By the way the person that i raced is my manager. And we put down that if i won that i would get the day off and 100 bux. It was a damn easy race. He thrashed with me until around 60 or so then i pulled ahead 3 car lengths by 120 ... I said we should have raced to top speed because he will shutoff at 143 and what i hear ls1's hit 175. Is this true?

Wow the GT has graduated to now being able to stay with an LS1 until 60. :zzz:

freakynipples69
04-16-2005, 07:16 PM
Just raced a 05 GT that sounded like it had exhaust work done. Check out my kill story in the street racing forum. With me, 3 other passengers, and a full tank of gas, I beat the GT by a good 3+ car lengths.

Edit: Also I just have full bolt ons, cam isn't in it yet ;)

PewterWSSicc
04-16-2005, 10:57 PM
Well I used to be a die hard mustang hater. But i have come to realize that they arent that bad of cars. No they are still not yet up to the speed of an LS1 stock to stock. The 03/04 cobras werent even that much faster than a stock LS1(please dont mention the modding thing, i know). But the mustang GTs are actually a really good car for the price of them. There arent many cars out there that hit 300hp for only $25,000. But ofcourse there is nothing i love more than breaking there hearts in a race. They are great cars for the moeny. But they are gonna do a lot of losing to LS1's if they stay stock. But atleat they have finally hit 13's in stock form.

02WS6Bird
04-17-2005, 08:23 AM
Yeah, isnt that your Mom's Trans Am, not your own? Because if so, I do not think she'd appreciate you taking out her car and racing it. After all I'm sure your entire family pays more then enough for insurance with the list of cars you have, and a nice fat wad of money to let you possibly even take out the Trans Am. So why go screw things up, get caught street racing, crash of some unexpected incident at high speeds. Remember anything can happen on the Street!

Nice kill, but even so in no way should you be that cocky about beating a bone stock, 2005 Mustang GT-there have been quite a few getting smoked around here day in and day out. Its getting familiar here in my part of IL. The car is rated slower, less powerful, and heavier.

TORNATIC!!
04-18-2005, 01:49 AM
Well I used to be a die hard mustang hater. But i have come to realize that they arent that bad of cars. No they are still not yet up to the speed of an LS1 stock to stock. The 03/04 cobras werent even that much faster than a stock LS1(please dont mention the modding thing, i know). But the mustang GTs are actually a really good car for the price of them. There arent many cars out there that hit 300hp for only $25,000. But ofcourse there is nothing i love more than breaking there hearts in a race. They are great cars for the moeny. But they are gonna do a lot of losing to LS1's if they stay stock. But atleat they have finally hit 13's in stock form.

Don't get me wrong I like Mustang's alot(my car is an '02 GT Mustang :cool: )
But you only get 260 hp and you call yourself a muscle car?? Your main rivals even though extinct for the past couple years still have a faster car than the '05 GT you put out?? :guns: That dissapoints me a little bit. Every time I see a V8 Camaro or Firebird I already know I'm at a disadvantage. That's :bs: to me!!

I'm crawling back to GM for my next car. GTO!! :usa:

Darksol
04-19-2005, 03:02 PM
Don't get me wrong I like Mustang's alot(my car is an '02 GT Mustang :cool: )
But you only get 260 hp and you call yourself a muscle car?? Your main rivals even though extinct for the past couple years still have a faster car than the '05 GT you put out?? :guns: That dissapoints me a little bit. Every time I see a V8 Camaro or Firebird I already know I'm at a disadvantage. That's :bs: to me!!

I'm crawling back to GM for my next car. GTO!! :usa:
serves you right :moon: j/k i did my import time before i knew it i was suffering from torqcosis. now i have to get my daily allotted serving of torque. :drive: