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AmMscl
04-11-2005, 10:25 AM
I would like to say for the record both bikes had passengers and I did steal a move on them! Also I've owned 2 ZX9rs and currently own a CBR929 now, so I know what these bikes are capable of.
A little run in with a R1 and a GSXR 1000 the other night:
1st light they come rollin thru traffic, give a little glance and a rev at the Z, like big deal another Corvette. It was pretty late, but there was a little traffic, so I waited to see if these guys were going to travel outside of town....2 lights later there was nothing but straight away for miles. Show time: Light goes green I rollout 1/2 throttle and make sure she is gonna stick, then hammer 2nd ..........pull 2 cars before they know what hit them. Well its on I got out about 3-4 cars on the R1 up to 140 and shut down.........He wasn't pulling on me, I shut down because it seemed to be the sensible thing to do.
Well the guy on the GSXR was a tool, he wasn't happy at all. He rev'd his bike up at the next light and wouldn't even look at mehttp://www.ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_confused.gif The guy on the R1 was cool and said man that thing is F@#$'n fast
The GSXR ridser seemed to be inexperienced (my opinion) He was way behind the R1, but he was the one rev'n his bike on me!
I've had 4 runs with bikes in the Z 1st CBR 600 from a dead stop...beat it by 2 cars in 1/4, 2nd 636 taking a entrance ramp on to the freeway thru the twistys and had to slow down to see him again, 3rd GXSR 750 at a light from a 1st gear roll.....The Z pulled about 3 cars and stayed there all day.

We all know that....Anything is possible with the right experience behind the wheel! But it is sure nice to take advantage of the inexperienced oneshttp://www.ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_devil.gif Especially when they are cocky....and got passengers to witnesshttp://www.ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif


CharlieCobra03
04-11-2005, 11:00 AM
Nice kills on the Rice Rockets.

titanium barchetta
04-11-2005, 11:17 AM
Nice kills, but what dumbasses to run with passengers on the back! :bang:


AmMscl
04-11-2005, 11:21 AM
Nice kills, but what dumbasses to run with passengers on the back! :bang:
Thats why I let off, just wanted to prove my point to the 1000cc crowd
Just hanging with a 1000cc bike is a accomplishment

5POINT7
04-11-2005, 11:38 AM
What are your mods?

Nice runs btw, the Gixxer guy sounds like a tool.

AmMscl
04-11-2005, 12:02 PM
What are your mods?

Nice runs btw, the Gixxer guy sounds like a tool.AFR205s, Comp 224 cam, LG long tubes, LS1edit (tuned by A&A) Super ram air and car recently made 430RWHP/ 405RWTQ.
Guy on GSXR was butt hurt for sure, probably first bike:)
I have a problem with inexperienced riders buying the largest cc they can get their hands on......knew a couple guys who found out the hard way about the dangers of riding big bores :(

cantdrv65
04-11-2005, 12:14 PM
Nice kill! I had similar results when I raced a modded GSXR1000 (made 160rwhp) from a roll.... In my experience bike riders are a little taken by suprise when they run into a car that is a little quicker than stock.... ;)

BLK85
04-11-2005, 12:25 PM
Those new Gixxer 1000s are 185 hp more than the busas. Good runs man.

titanium barchetta
04-11-2005, 01:25 PM
knew a couple guys who found out the hard way about the dangers of riding big bores :(

Key word is "knew", me too.

titanium barchetta
04-11-2005, 01:27 PM
Nice kill! I had similar results when I raced a modded GSXR1000 (made 160rwhp) from a roll.... In my experience bike riders are a little taken by suprise when they run into a car that is a little quicker than stock.... ;)

Yes they are, especially when they see the big cloud of NOS coming out of the cowl just before we hit it! :drive:

cantdrv65
04-11-2005, 01:42 PM
Yes they are, especially when they see the big cloud of NOS coming out of the cowl just before we hit it! :drive:

Or they are unable to hear their bike over the sound of a V8 blissfully singing... ;)

Coy
04-11-2005, 04:08 PM
Those new Gixxer 1000s are 185 hp more than the busas. Good runs man.

Doy you mean "185 hp, more than the busa's."

"or 185 hp more than the busa's?"

I hope its the first, because if not, you are an idiot.

balkanbusa
04-11-2005, 04:34 PM
again,what makes you think 430hp will make a 1000cc bike killer out of your car?cmon,man.ok,but it seems like AGAIN some idiots riding the bike and having no clue.
i absolutely ASSRAPED a410whp viper yesterday.again and again,BY LIKE HALF A 1/4MILE!!!!!!till 140mph(for me)and after that it gets even worse.and those 1000cc bike atleast can hang with me till 140mph,thats a fact.
i hope you know the outcome of those races if the bike would have been propperly ridden??i hope,of not you will be very suprised when you run in a bike with a good rider.
but,kill is a kill.
what is a 9second bike worth in the hands of a moron?NOTHING,i agree

pwr2w8
04-11-2005, 04:58 PM
again,what makes you think 430hp will make a 1000cc bike killer out of your car?cmon,man.ok,but it seems like AGAIN some idiots riding the bike and having no clue.
i absolutely ASSRAPED a410whp viper yesterday.again and again,BY LIKE HALF A 1/4MILE!!!!!!till 140mph(for me)and after that it gets even worse.and those 1000cc bike atleast can hang with me till 140mph,thats a fact.
i hope you know the outcome of those races if the bike would have been propperly ridden??i hope,of not you will be very suprised when you run in a bike with a good rider.
but,kill is a kill.
what is a 9second bike worth in the hands of a moron?NOTHING,i agree
dude calm down. he admitted that the riders weren't the greatest, ok? maybe even 1st bike owners. also did you see where he mentioned owning a couple of bikes? and the bikes had passengers? he had a note at the top explaining a couple of things so people wouldn't flip and say "no way dude".....

just relax. :cheers:

CharlieCobra03
04-11-2005, 05:02 PM
I ran a GSX-R 1000 from a roll BEFORE I pullied up and only lost by 3 cars from 50-145. The rider makes all the difference in the world. Hell, if I'd been on a bike just like the one I raced, I'd have beaten that tool (the Gixer rider) by bus lengths. There ain't no way my 425 RWHP car that weighs 3670 #'s should come close to hangin' with a 170 RWHP 350 # bike. I don't care what kinda aerodynamic issues the bike has at speed.

Power/weight ratio

Cobra 8.94 Lbs/HP with me in it.

GSX-R 1000 2.91 Lbs/HP with 145 Lb rider (he was small)

No friggin' contest. :eek2:

AmMscl
04-11-2005, 05:45 PM
again,what makes you think 430hp will make a 1000cc bike killer out of your car?cmon,man.ok,but it seems like AGAIN some idiots riding the bike and having no clue.
i absolutely ASSRAPED a410whp viper yesterday.again and again,BY LIKE HALF A 1/4MILE!!!!!!till 140mph(for me)and after that it gets even worse.and those 1000cc bike atleast can hang with me till 140mph,thats a fact.
i hope you know the outcome of those races if the bike would have been propperly ridden??i hope,of not you will be very suprised when you run in a bike with a good rider.
but,kill is a kill.
what is a 9second bike worth in the hands of a moron?NOTHING,i agreeONE WORD 2 SYLLABLES DECAFF

And thats 430RWHP about 500 to the crank...........like I said I stole the jump and they had riders...............too bad for their disadvantages. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_devil.gif
I was of course giving up a few pound toohttp://www.ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif


BUT>>>>Hey thanks for stopping by and making an buffoon of yourself. I hardly think motorcyclist need your help to defend their honor..........I DON'T (2000 CBR 929 owner and rider)

balkanbusa
04-11-2005, 06:26 PM
didnt say impossible
im just sick of them first time bike owners with 1000cc bikes or bigger wich are capable to lose against 500hp cars.that makes them look like idiots,wich they are.
didnt want to offend you,man
but you have to agree if you only loose by 3carlenghts from 50-120? against a gixxer1000 that this rider is a clown

Sinner
04-11-2005, 07:17 PM
i absolutely ASSRAPED a410whp viper yesterday.again and again,BY LIKE HALF A 1/4MILE!!!!!!

Wouldn't that be an 1/8th? :bang:

balkanbusa
04-11-2005, 07:27 PM
sorry 1/8 of course.
OMG guys dont wanted to offend you,just posted my opinion.
you guys would be the first ones to call bs if someone posted he killed a viper in his bolton(HAHAHA)s2000.HAHA.sorry,still laughing about those s2000.always comes first to my mind when thinking bout wannabe fast cars
even if its possible to loose to a s2000 in a viper.got my point?

30th t/a
04-11-2005, 07:47 PM
sorry 1/8 of course.
OMG guys dont wanted to offend you,just posted my opinion.
you guys would be the first ones to call bs if someone posted he killed a viper in his bolton(HAHAHA)s2000.HAHA.sorry,still laughing about those s2000.always comes first to my mind when thinking bout wannabe fast cars
even if its possible to loose to a s2000 in a viper.got my point?


haha....i love it :jest:

BLK85
04-11-2005, 09:53 PM
Doy you mean "185 hp, more than the busa's."

"or 185 hp more than the busa's?"

I hope its the first, because if not, you are an idiot.
185 hp, more than the busa's. Shit if it was the other they would hand you your death cerifiacte with the title.

AmMscl
04-11-2005, 10:50 PM
Plenty of videos floating around of bikes getting worked (even a Busa) by cars

5POINT7
04-12-2005, 02:00 AM
Plenty of videos floating around of bikes getting worked (even a Busa) by cars
Your point?

Yeah, it happens. :secret:

AmMscl
04-12-2005, 11:28 AM
Your point?

Yeah, it happens. :secret:
Point being>>>>>>>>>>>All the bike people, who have a complex with cars walking on bikes, should go educate themselves with those resources. With mods anything is possible.
I don't have a problem with it and I'm on my 7th bike.................There was a video awhile ago of a Non Turbo factory stock Porsche (2003-2004) VS. 2003 R1 at Willow Springs= Porsche passed the R1...both had expert riders!

My 87LX handed out its share of whoopins too, just as TITANIUM BARCHETTA Coupe did.

cantdrv65
04-12-2005, 11:42 AM
Point being>>>>>>>>>>>All the bike people, who have a complex with cars walking on bikes, should go educate themselves with those resources. With mods anything is possible.
I don't have a problem with it and I'm on my 7th bike.................There was a video awhile ago of a Non Turbo factory stock Porsche (2003-2004) VS. 2003 R1 at Willow Springs= Porsche passed the R1...both had expert riders!

My 87LX handed out its share of whoopins too, just as TITANIUM BARCHETTA Coupe did.

A lot of bike guys fail to realize a roll race takes away some advantage of the bike. A liter bike is going to win a 50-120 against most cars, but it will be alot closer then they think against a 10 or even 11 second car that traps high....You have to compare the MPH gain over the second 1/8.....

AmMscl
04-12-2005, 11:44 AM
A lot of bike guys fail to realize a roll race takes away some advantage of the bike. A liter bike is going to win a 50-120 against most cars, but it will be alot closer then they think against a 10 or even 11 second car that traps high....You have to compare the MPH gain over the second 1/8.....
:nod: Thank you!

Wet 1
04-12-2005, 11:47 AM
I know some will cry about this statement, but cars can ass rape bikes on road courses.

In a straight line, it takes a lot of mods to hang with a fast bike!

AmMscl
04-12-2005, 11:54 AM
I know some will cry about this statement, but cars can ass rape bikes on road courses.

In a straight line, it takes a lot of mods to hang with a fast bike!
I'm leaving:jest:

titanium barchetta
04-12-2005, 01:22 PM
i absolutely ASSRAPED a viper yesterday.again and again,

Sounds like you have issues..... :gay:

titanium barchetta
04-12-2005, 01:24 PM
My 87LX handed out its share of whoopins too, just as TITANIUM BARCHETTA Coupe did.

**sniff-sniff** :cry:

Thank you for the acknowledgement..... :chug:

balkanbusa
04-12-2005, 01:28 PM
titanium dick....no gay issues here,maybe thats your fantasy. :jest:

titanium barchetta
04-12-2005, 01:32 PM
Nice one newbie...:wave-fing:

balkanbusa
04-12-2005, 01:47 PM
titanium PUNK,just calm down and stick that :wave-fing in yer arsehole.go call your boyfriend gay. :engarde:

5POINT7
04-12-2005, 02:50 PM
^^Wow, what happened here?????

AmMscl, believe me dude...I am in no way a bike guy. I still love f-bodies and will forever. The bike is simply more economical for a college kid.

Bikes can win, cars can win. This argument is over.

AmMscl
04-12-2005, 03:04 PM
^^Wow, what happened here?????

AmMscl, believe me dude...I am in no way a bike guy. I still love f-bodies and will forever. The bike is simply more economical for a college kid.

Bikes can win, cars can win. This argument is over.
I agree!

CharlieCobra03
04-12-2005, 03:11 PM
I don't think busa boy liked the rainbow TB gave him.

balkanbusa
04-12-2005, 03:39 PM
yeah,it was the rainbow that made me angry,but i take it by no means serious.just joking around allittle.no offens to anyone,guys.
crap if all those bikers arent capable to run down 400-500hp cars,then the car drivers deserve to post it with good rights.i guess i would be the firstone myself to post a bike kill,hehe.if i think a second about it,there are way to many dumbasses on literbikes all over the place,so i think its the same in the u.s.its their fault if they have no clue how to ride those bikes.
never join a streetrace if your not prepared(that includes skills).
if one can drive a car vs a bike with a moron on it and win,then for sure he has the rights to brag about.damn right.i think i got your point,guys :cheers:

AmMscl
04-12-2005, 06:08 PM
yeah,it was the rainbow that made me angry,but i take it by no means serious.just joking around allittle.no offens to anyone,guys.
crap if all those bikers arent capable to run down 400-500hp cars,then the car drivers deserve to post it with good rights.i guess i would be the firstone myself to post a bike kill,hehe.if i think a second about it,there are way to many dumbasses on literbikes all over the place,so i think its the same in the u.s.its their fault if they have no clue how to ride those bikes.
never join a streetrace if your not prepared(that includes skills).
if one can drive a car vs a bike with a moron on it and win,then for sure he has the rights to brag about.damn right.i think i got your point,guys :cheers:Cool WELCOME ABOARD:jest:

Old & In The Way
04-12-2005, 07:02 PM
I would like to say for the record both bikes had passengers and I did steal a move on them! Also I've owned 2 ZX9rs and currently own a CBR929 now, so I know what these bikes are capable of.
A little run in with a R1 and a GSXR 1000 the other night:
1st light they come rollin thru traffic, give a little glance and a rev at the Z, like big deal another Corvette. It was pretty late, but there was a little traffic, so I waited to see if these guys were going to travel outside of town....2 lights later there was nothing but straight away for miles. Show time: Light goes green I rollout 1/2 throttle and make sure she is gonna stick, then hammer 2nd ..........pull 2 cars before they know what hit them. Well its on I got out about 3-4 cars on the R1 up to 140 and shut down.........He wasn't pulling on me, I shut down because it seemed to be the sensible thing to do.
Well the guy on the GSXR was a tool, he wasn't happy at all. He rev'd his bike up at the next light and wouldn't even look at mehttp://www.ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_confused.gif The guy on the R1 was cool and said man that thing is F@#$'n fast
The GSXR ridser seemed to be inexperienced (my opinion) He was way behind the R1, but he was the one rev'n his bike on me!
I've had 4 runs with bikes in the Z 1st CBR 600 from a dead stop...beat it by 2 cars in 1/4, 2nd 636 taking a entrance ramp on to the freeway thru the twistys and had to slow down to see him again, 3rd GXSR 750 at a light from a 1st gear roll.....The Z pulled about 3 cars and stayed there all day.

We all know that....Anything is possible with the right experience behind the wheel! But it is sure nice to take advantage of the inexperienced oneshttp://www.ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_devil.gif Especially when they are cocky....and got passengers to witnesshttp://www.ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif
I've raced, cars, bikes, go-karts, and jet-skis, for 45 years. Have 250,000 miles on various racetracks across the country, have known, and raced with, Eddie Lawson, Wayne Rainey, Freddy Spencer, Dan Gurney, Emerson Fittapaldi, and the Andretti family. I've owned 48 new cars {hot rods], and 79 new bikes [road racing], since 1962. I presently own an 05 GTO, and an 03 GSX-R 1000, with 165 RWHP. One thing I know for certain, Mr. Newton's laws of Physics, always apply! For example, me on GSX-R 1000, full tank, max weight, has 3.64 lbs./ HP. You, in Z-06, 1/2 tank gas, has 8.14 lbs./HP. It would be embarassing, downright humiliating, but possibly enlightening, for you to race my bike, any kind of race, roll-on, top speed, 1/4 mile, freeway ramp, road race, WHATEVER!!! If you're not sure about that, bring yourself, and Z-06 to Ortega Hwy. any Sunday morning and we'll work on a refresher course, of Mr. Newton's LAWS.

balkanbusa
04-12-2005, 07:20 PM
old in in the way
THAT ONE WAS FUCKIN GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!
:rock:
i have nothing to add

AmMscl
04-12-2005, 09:32 PM
I've raced, cars, bikes, go-karts, and jet-skis, for 45 years. Have 250,000 miles on various racetracks across the country, have known, and raced with, Eddie Lawson, Wayne Rainey, Freddy Spencer, Dan Gurney, Emerson Fittapaldi, and the Andretti family. I've owned 48 new cars {hot rods], and 79 new bikes [road racing], since 1962. I presently own an 05 GTO, and an 03 GSX-R 1000, with 165 RWHP. One thing I know for certain, Mr. Newton's laws of Physics, always apply! For example, me on GSX-R 1000, full tank, max weight, has 3.64 lbs./ HP. You, in Z-06, 1/2 tank gas, has 8.14 lbs./HP. It would be embarassing, downright humiliating, but possibly enlightening, for you to race my bike, any kind of race, roll-on, top speed, 1/4 mile, freeway ramp, road race, WHATEVER!!! If you're not sure about that, bring yourself, and Z-06 to Ortega Hwy. any Sunday morning and we'll work on a refresher course, of Mr. Newton's LAWS.
Just when we were starting to bring some sort of sensible closure here another hip shooter shows up..............................................
Did you even bother to read any part of this thread or are you related to Busa boy
I OWN A BIKE A CBR 929 and know what its capable of.........If you would have bothered to read, instead take offense you would have noticed I stole a move and they had passengers
Now if you want to put someone on the back and give me the move...... We'll talk. Or how about head up (1/4 mile/ drag) with another car?? (PM me if so)
SOMEONE LOCK THIS THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:judge:

Xtreme57
04-12-2005, 10:03 PM
"Run what you brung, and hope it's enough."

ddnspider
04-12-2005, 10:33 PM
again,what makes you think 430hp will make a 1000cc bike killer out of your car?cmon,man.ok,but it seems like AGAIN some idiots riding the bike and having no clue.
i absolutely ASSRAPED a410whp viper yesterday.again and again,BY LIKE HALF A 1/4MILE!!!!!!till 140mph(for me)and after that it gets even worse.and those 1000cc bike atleast can hang with me till 140mph,thats a fact.
i hope you know the outcome of those races if the bike would have been propperly ridden??i hope,of not you will be very suprised when you run in a bike with a good rider.
but,kill is a kill.
what is a 9second bike worth in the hands of a moron?NOTHING,i agree
has anyone pointed out the hilighted section...you show me a vipe with 410 and ill show you a moron,they make more than that!

AmMscl
04-12-2005, 10:42 PM
I'm sorry I made this all up, there is no possible way a car can beat a bike.
NOW WILL SOMEONE LOCK THIS THING:bomb:

KCamaro
04-12-2005, 10:46 PM
I love threads like these. They always provide 2 things for the board. 1) New trolls for us to pick on until they get banned, and 2) entertainment for those of us who dont mind simply reading an enjoying some of the crap that surfaces.

5POINT7
04-12-2005, 11:16 PM
I love threads like these. They always provide 2 things for the board. 1) New trolls for us to pick on until they get banned, and 2) entertainment for those of us who dont mind simply reading an enjoying some of the crap that surfaces.
I sure don't.

Both sides have valid points...and AmMscl should not have stole the move in the first place, jk :) :jest:

balkanbusa
04-13-2005, 05:06 AM
2nd gen viper dyno about 400whp stock,the newer ones bout 440 as far as i remember.
so,both sides made their points and,of course,its a flame war now.
but how slow an in the way described his point was hilarious.very funny :devil:

Wet 1
04-13-2005, 09:53 AM
Since many seem to know what will and what won't pull a 750... What does it take to beat a 600, 750, 1000+??? Lets say from a 50-130 roll.

Old & In The Way
04-13-2005, 10:07 AM
Just when we were starting to bring some sort of sensible closure here another hip shooter shows up..............................................
Did you even bother to read any part of this thread or are you related to Busa boy
I OWN A BIKE A CBR 929 and know what its capable of.........If you would have bothered to read, instead take offense you would have noticed I stole a move and they had passengers
Now if you want to put someone on the back and give me the move...... We'll talk. Or how about head up (1/4 mile/ drag) with another car?? (PM me if so)
SOMEONE LOCK THIS THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:judge:
Yes, it is possible to drive a car around various road obstructions, including, motorcycles, is that your point? I thought this was a "KILL/RACE" section? That wasn't a "KILL", that was negotiating a "moving chicane". It promotes a "FANTASY", that hot cars can defy the laws of physics. Kind of like the V.C gangbangers around here who think that, if they do a "FLY BYE", it was a race, and they won? I hope you didn't flash your headlights?

Old & In The Way
04-13-2005, 10:15 AM
Since many seem to know what will and what won't pull a 750... What does it take to beat a 600, 750, 1000+??? Lets say from a 50-130 roll.
A Faster Bike!

AmMscl
04-13-2005, 10:25 AM
Yes, it is possible to drive a car around various road obstructions, including, motorcycles, is that your point? I thought this was a "KILL/RACE" section? That wasn't a "KILL", that was negotiating a "moving chicane". It promotes a "FANTASY", that hot cars can defy the laws of physics. Kind of like the V.C gangbangers around here who think that, if they do a "FLY BYE", it was a race, and they won? I hope you didn't flash your headlights?Like I said it never happened!
Now go troll somewhere else

Wet 1
04-13-2005, 10:27 AM
"A Faster Bike!"

So you don't think any bike can be beat by a car from a roll? :bang:

AmMscl
04-13-2005, 10:44 AM
"A Faster Bike!"

So you don't think any bike can be beat by a car from a roll? :bang:
WET1
This guy is beyond understanding............WTF does Gangbangers have to do with any of this:confused: ...........If your any kind of rider Old in a way I'll see you at the ROCK store one weekend.
No fly by here OR LANE CHANGE! Caught the bike in the wrong gear with a passenger on a roll............But like I said it never happened (all fantasy)>>>>> Its impossible

Old & In The Way
04-13-2005, 11:01 AM
"A Faster Bike!"

So you don't think any bike can be beat by a car from a roll? :bang:
An 800 lb. "Cruiser", with 100 H.P., and a 300 lb. rider, has 1 H.P./ 11lb. A fast car has 1H.P./ 8 lbs., car wins. A fast motorcycle has 1 H.P./3.75 lbs. You'd need a true 9 second street car, and slicks, and you'd have to "hook up". I once raced a twin turbo Z-06, 427 c.i./1000 h.p. "street car", and got blown off the road! We stopped an talked after, and he had run 8.75 quarter mi., and his top speed was 200+ Thats the kind of street car it takes to beat a fast bike.

Old & In The Way
04-13-2005, 11:20 AM
WET1
This guy is beyond understanding............WTF does Gangbangers have to do with any of this:confused: ...........If your any kind of rider Old in a way I'll see you at the ROCK store one weekend.
No fly by here OR LANE CHANGE! Caught the bike in the wrong gear with a passenger on a roll............But like I said it never happened (all fantasy)>>>>> Its impossible
I don't doubt that your vette is fast, don't be so defensive! Everything on this section is "Cyberfantasy" anyway! But, not the Rock Store, go to The Lookout Roadhouse, it's way better than the Rokstor!

balkanbusa
04-13-2005, 12:09 PM
since someone asked:
as a general rule in a 3500lbs car you will need as much rwhp as the bike hass CCs.so 600whp for a NEWER 600cc bike.
with average rider you can expect:
a 600 running high10s/low11s @125-130mph
a 750 running mid-high10 @ 130-135mph
a1000 running low 10,high9s @ 140-145mph
zx12 and busa about the same as the 1000ccs,but slightly quicker,cus their easyier to launch and dont wheelie sooo bad.
average rider,not newbiemoron will be capable after some passes to hit those times.
i hope i helped you out

CharlieCobra03
04-13-2005, 03:37 PM
Old & In The Way, sounds like we've been down some of the same paths and choked on the same fumes. Welcome aboard.

cantdrv65
04-14-2005, 08:39 AM
An 800 lb. "Cruiser", with 100 H.P., and a 300 lb. rider, has 1 H.P./ 11lb. A fast car has 1H.P./ 8 lbs., car wins. A fast motorcycle has 1 H.P./3.75 lbs. You'd need a true 9 second street car, and slicks, and you'd have to "hook up". I once raced a twin turbo Z-06, 427 c.i./1000 h.p. "street car", and got blown off the road! We stopped an talked after, and he had run 8.75 quarter mi., and his top speed was 200+ Thats the kind of street car it takes to beat a fast bike.

Yep, Ive seen an 800rwhp Supra assrape a Busa from 80-170, wasnt close..... It really takes about 650-700 rwhp from those speeds, when you factor in aerodynamics......thats a alot of ponies! ....The same Supra was beat by a modified Busa...;) Most people including the poster of this thread know that a newer liter bike with 160rwhp is going to be VERY fast, but it is amazing how much an inexperienced or scared rider makes....Ive had a similar experience.... I think that is the point everyone is tryoing to make.

AmMscl
04-14-2005, 11:55 AM
:drive:This is true!

balkanbusa
04-14-2005, 12:09 PM
890rwhp viper could pull 1carlenght on a stock busa from 70-160.not bad.but a piped busa ran the same viper down by a few carlenghts.
i think the race mentioned with the supra was from 40-200mph.busa didnt look good there :shiner:
but,try the race from a dig,hehe

AmMscl
04-14-2005, 01:09 PM
It all comes down to DRIVER vs DRIVER...not bike against car.

titanium barchetta
04-15-2005, 07:40 PM
yeah,it was the rainbow that made me angry,but i take it by no means serious.just joking around allittle.no offens to anyone,guys.
:cheers:

Cool, then welcome, just testing the waters with you. :chug:

cantdrv65
04-16-2005, 04:48 PM
890rwhp viper could pull 1carlenght on a stock busa from 70-160.not bad.but a piped busa ran the same viper down by a few carlenghts.
i think the race mentioned with the supra was from 40-200mph.busa didnt look good there :shiner:
but,try the race from a dig,hehe

Nope it was not a 200 mph run, wouldnt have mattered anyway the race was over when it started ;)... I know the dude who used to own the "walser" supra....

titanium barchetta
05-05-2005, 07:30 PM
Nope it was not a 200 mph run, wouldnt have mattered anyway the race was over when it started ;)... I know the dude who used to own the "walser" supra....


Haha, Darren Shrunk, I have numerous videos of him anihilating modded Busa'a and GSX-R1000's, that f'in car was sick! :eek2:

Vendetta
05-05-2005, 07:38 PM
again,what makes you think 430hp will make a 1000cc bike killer out of your car?cmon,man.ok,but it seems like AGAIN some idiots riding the bike and having no clue.
i absolutely ASSRAPED a410whp viper yesterday.again and again,BY LIKE HALF A 1/4MILE!!!!!!till 140mph(for me)and after that it gets even worse.and those 1000cc bike atleast can hang with me till 140mph,thats a fact.
i hope you know the outcome of those races if the bike would have been propperly ridden??i hope,of not you will be very suprised when you run in a bike with a good rider.
but,kill is a kill.
what is a 9second bike worth in the hands of a moron?NOTHING,i agree

As I was reading this post, the voice that I put to it in my mind was that of one of the chipmunks- high pitched and uber fast.

cantdrv65
05-08-2005, 08:07 PM
Haha, Darren Shrunk, I have numerous videos of him anihilating modded Busa'a and GSX-R1000's, that f'in car was sick! :eek2:

Yes it WAS, unfortunately he sold it quite a while ago...I do not know who bought that beast, it made 85?rwhp with twins and N2O. ;)

DanSSull
05-08-2005, 09:37 PM
I've seen heavy modded bikes get destroyed by cars. Pro street Chevelle made a Busa look like a Civic. Oh but its a race car! Yeah well, when a bike races a car, guess what? Its a bike!

Bikes are faster, and everyone here knows it. It takes alot for a car to beat a bike. So whats the deal? I guess its that the bike should have won? Yeah he should of, everyone here, including the poster knows it too.

Not trying to start fighting but why are we fighting?

necrocannibal
05-08-2005, 09:54 PM
There is a vid a few threads down of a 700 rwhp LS1 putting a few cars on a ZX-12R. For the guys who think it takes 1000 rwhp to beat a bike go watch it and learn. I have a race with a GSXR-1000 from a highway roll coming up and I will be spraying a 250 shot when I do, should be 700-750 rwhp, and I will let you know what happens win or lose. Aerodynamics play a HUGE part in going from a roll against a bike.

King02SS
05-08-2005, 10:42 PM
I've seen heavy modded bikes get destroyed by cars. Pro street Chevelle made a Busa look like a Civic. Oh but its a race car! Yeah well, when a bike races a car, guess what? Its a bike!

Bikes are faster, and everyone here knows it. It takes alot for a car to beat a bike. So whats the deal? I guess its that the bike should have won? Yeah he should of, everyone here, including the poster knows it too.

Not trying to start fighting but why are we fighting?

That depends on what type of fast you're talking about. Acceleration yea a bike should be faster off the showroom floor. Top speed, not necessarily, there are plenty of exotics that top out way higher than 95% of the bikes available. Then you run into the "modded" category. With a bike you can go out run a 9.8 in the quarter throw on an exhaust and still run a 9.8 in the quarter. Why? Because on a crotch rocket the problem usually isn't the power they make but using the power they have. Some people think that's because the driver's not good enough. Well honestly the driver will never be good enough to get the full quarter mile potential out of a bike like that because there are boundries that won't allow the bike itself to meet its full potential. The bike should have won? Probably not but whatever they want to think and whatever keeps their p3n1s-3nv'/ to a minimum. :eyes: BTW this is to balsan it doesn't take 1000hp to run 9s. Which is where most "fast" street bikes are(aka busa's, R1s, ZX12's). The horsepower helps but with 1k hp you should be able to pull an 8 with a 3500lb car. I know quoting power to weight ratios is cute and all but it's not the safest way to guess a quarter mile time. If you try that one in the wrong place you go home with an empty wallet.

DanSSull
05-08-2005, 11:03 PM
Yeah you bring up good points King02SS, I agree.

BTW: Any one seen a Koenigsegg CCR? I've said that like 3 times on this site, but that car is a monster, you can see it in the book of records. A car that would put the NEW Z06 to shame [Not trying to dis the Z06, just trying to show how cool the CCR is].

That depends on what type of fast you're talking about. Acceleration yea a bike should be faster off the showroom floor. Top speed, not necessarily, there are plenty of exotics that top out way higher than 95% of the bikes available. Then you run into the "modded" category. With a bike you can go out run a 9.8 in the quarter throw on an exhaust and still run a 9.8 in the quarter. Why? Because on a crotch rocket the problem usually isn't the power they make but using the power they have. Some people think that's because the driver's not good enough. Well honestly the driver will never be good enough to get the full quarter mile potential out of a bike like that because there are boundries that won't allow the bike itself to meet its full potential. The bike should have won? Probably not but whatever they want to think and whatever keeps their p3n1s-3nv'/ to a minimum. BTW this is to balsan it doesn't take 1000hp to run 9s. Which is where most "fast" street bikes are(aka busa's, R1s, ZX12's). The horsepower helps but with 1k hp you should be able to pull an 8 with a 3500lb car. I know quoting power to weight ratios is cute and all but it's not the safest way to guess a quarter mile time. If you try that one in the wrong place you go home with an empty wallet.

King02SS
05-08-2005, 11:29 PM
Yea the Koenigsegg is sick but I've never seen one in person. I'd love to drive one. :devil: :drive:

titanium barchetta
05-09-2005, 01:18 PM
The "new" S7 is prolly the sickest vehicle made as of now. 750HP/700TQ with twin Garretts and 2950lbs! :eek2: