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Old 04-17-2005, 11:24 PM
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Default PHB a necessity with 315's? Stock height car.

Ok well I know there's 11029382190 threads involving 315's, but I don't know if this question was answered and quite frankly I'd rather just find out this way instead of looking through a ton of threads.

My 17x9.5/11 Black ZR1's should be in this week along with my 315's. I don't really have money right now to drop on a PHB, but for now my car is at stock height. Do I absolutely have to have a PHB with 315's or can it wait? I just want to put my wheels on and be able to drive the car.

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If you are at stock height, you can probably wait. But, if you ever drop the car, you WILL need to get one. When you get your new wheels and tires on, you might want to measure and see how far off your rear end is. A lot of times they are very close but sometimes, they can be pretty far off, but you should be fine for now.
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Yeah I plan on doing a PHB and LCA relocation brackets when I lower it.

Where and what exactly do you measure to see what needs to be adjusted with a PHB? Pardon my ignorance, but I always see people say "measure the rear" to see how much you need to adjust on the PHB.

Do I need to measure where the tires sit in comparison to the fenders or something?
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I'd still get one anyway. I put my buddies 11 inch ZR1's on my car to see how they'd look, and you could really tell the rear needed centered. Stock height, and you could still tell. For the price, just pick one up. Call the sponser below
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I took a long string and and tied a heavy washer to the end of it. I taped it to the rear window (on the side) and let the weight hang over the middle of the wheel well. Then take a measurement from the string to the hub. This may not be the most accurate way, but we did it this way with the suspension loaded and adjusted it. When I had the car aligned, the technician said that the rear was right on.
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pardon my ignorance but do you need an adjustable one if you plan on lowering your car, or is there a correct length non-adjustable one?
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Originally Posted by ritz
Ok well I know there's 11029382190 threads involving 315's, but I don't know if this question was answered and quite frankly I'd rather just find out this way instead of looking through a ton of threads.

My 17x9.5/11 Black ZR1's should be in this week along with my 315's. I don't really have money right now to drop on a PHB, but for now my car is at stock height. Do I absolutely have to have a PHB with 315's or can it wait? I just want to put my wheels on and be able to drive the car.

Thanks in advance.

Anything that keeps the rear end housing from moving around more will improve your handeling. PHB will keep it centered which gives you a more constant center of gravity. Also, it doesn't allow the rear to build momentum, and then "slap" the car one way or the other. Not that it does that much anyways, but it should tighten the car up just that much more.
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Originally Posted by qwikz28
pardon my ignorance but do you need an adjustable one if you plan on lowering your car, or is there a correct length non-adjustable one?
That's another question I had.

I plan on picking one up I just wanted to know if I could even put the wheels on the car without one? I don't plan on driving it hard or anything hell if I even drive it at all.
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I think allot of it depends on the tires. I have GSD3's which run wide and they rubbed at the front most part of the inner fender well.

What brand of tire are you going with?
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you know what ritz... i'm gonna get the 315s and then do the PHB and fender rolling as necesary.
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Originally Posted by qwikz28
pardon my ignorance but do you need an adjustable one if you plan on lowering your car, or is there a correct length non-adjustable one?
you will need to buy an adjustable one.they aren't much more in price.after you lower it,take out the stock phb and use that to set the lenght of the adjustable one.if you start with the adjustable phb about 1/4" shorter than the stock one it will get you close.
make sure when you measure the rearend that it has a load on it.i like to let it set on the ground and push on the rear of the car a couple times to get it to set where it wants and then measure both sides and adjust from there.
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Originally Posted by ssPetess
I think allot of it depends on the tires. I have GSD3's which run wide and they rubbed at the front most part of the inner fender well.

What brand of tire are you going with?
Sumitomo's. The car is only driven 1-2 times a week if that, so I didn't feel the need to drop ~$300 per tire.
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Posted by: ritz
Sumitomo's. The car is only driven 1-2 times a week if that, so I didn't feel the need to drop ~$300 per tire.
That is exactly why I went with Sumitimo's and they have served me well.
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Hi Folks
This weekend I just had my tires mounted (315/35x17 BFG DR & 17x11 rim)and I installed them on the car. A couple of key points - First the stop bumper and the chassis holding it has to be cut back. This is only a problem when you jack the car up and rear end hangs down – big problem. The other issue is the clearance problems, normal height. I had to get a BFH to move the metal – the sheet metal moved very easy but the other did not. Very little clearance and if you road race, it maybe more of a problem. In my case I could not just install the tires, I had a little work to do.
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Another FYI for anyone interested. Right now I'm running Kumho 712's up front (275's). I had them from my old Camaro, so they saved me a couple bucks for now, but the are noticably heavier than my 315's. It's weird since they're smaller, but my 315's feel lighter than my 275 Kumho's and my old 295/35/18 Firestone Firehawk Wide Ovals.
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Would you have to get a PHB if you were putting 275/40/17s out back
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i installed the 56/50mm offset zr1's on my ws.6. my suspension was completely stock. they fit fine, no modifications at all. i put a pro kit on and still havent had any issues at all. no fender rolling or bfh mod.
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Nice dallas you got pics?
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looks just like wildbillws6's car looked like, exept for all the white graphics. i will get some pics soon.
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i almost bought those black zr1's you got on ebay. you bought them by the time i got home from work lol!


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