jdustu

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just like the GTO.......

oh wait, they already have more orders than the gto sold total in the first year......i guess the average consumer really did want a four door

technical

What's just like the GTO?

Ravenous T\A

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I'm assuming the Dodge Charger

jdustu

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yeah, spoken with sarcasm.....i'm not sure on the exact numbers, but pontiac had wanted to "limit" the gto's production to 30k it's first year......they didn't come close to selling that many.....

TriShield

The maximum plant capacity for the GTO was 18,000 per year. They ended up making a little over 16,000 in 2004.

TriShield

Chrysler's next hit. Orders for the Charger are only 6,000 shy of the number of Firebirds made in 2002 as well, and it hasn't even started production yet.

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By Brett Clanton / The Detroit News

Chrysler may soon have another hit on its hands.

The Auburn Hills unit of DaimlerChrysler AG says it has taken 20,000 orders and identified 85,000 potential buyers for the 2006 Dodge Charger sedan, which goes into production this week. Not even the Chrysler 300 sedan, the automaker's biggest hit in years, posted such strong early numbers.

"To us, it's a good indication of the interest level in this vehicle," said Chrysler spokesman Rick Deneau.

But the four-door revival of the classic muscle car will face stiff competition in the midsize sedan category now ruled by the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry.

Industry forecaster Global Insight predicts annual sales at 70,000 for the Charger, which would make it a hit but not a home run. The Accord sold more than that in the first three months of this year.

But Andre Tadros, general sales manager at Northwestern Dodge in Detroit, says early customer response tells him the Charger will be a strong seller.

"I haven't seen this much excitement for a Dodge in a long time," he said.

Chrysler will build the Charger at its plant in Brampton, Ontario, and expects to have the first models in dealerships by early next month.

jdustu

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ah....i actually just looked up the article i read that in and said the production was limited to 16k.....the article was from may, and they had a 168 day bank of cars and were on pace to sell 7k....a winter launch didn't help, but with all the hype you figure it woulda done a little better........anyways, my memory isn't so sweet

anyways, thanks for the correction, obviously you got the point.....every gearhead thinks the buying population wants what every gearhead wants.....but i guess dodge was right in saying that a 4 door was more sellable to the general public......i personally think the car isn't the best looking thing in the world, but the more they sell, the bigger my profit sharing check

bruddah_man_matt

Anybody who's smart knew that the Charger would be a hit. It's only the badge ****** and those who find the truck like front end offensive who dogged this car. All I can say is that even though the Charger nameplate now adorns a 4 door sedan, at least she's a rear driver. Better than what GM did with the monikers Impala, Monte Carlo, Bonneville, Grand Prix, Riviera shall I go on? Funny how people bitch about the Charger, but no one complained about the 300 when it was released. As a 4 door passenger car, the Charger is a ******* ***** to the wall bad *** when compared to the vanilla competition. If Dodge wakes up and outfits the SRT-8 with a 6 speed manual option, you better believe I'd be first in line. Kudos to DC for what appears to be yet another hit.

HPP

Or maybe it's just that aside from us, the only people that care about names like "Charger" are people who were our age in the late 60s and now need or really want a 4 door. (or even who remember dad's car fondly and love the idea but also now need a 4 door because they are controlled by their women) Because most people our age actually like riced out Civics and think they are bad *** with their 4 banger, transverse mounted FF pieces of **** that they spent way too much money working on for some ungodly reason.

It may sell, but that is hardly the point. Crack sells too. I guess it's what the buying public wants and we should condone it's sale too, right?

Sometimes integrity should come before the almighty $.

demonspeed

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Which is why I suspect they haven't plastered "Chevelle" on anything... yet...

jdustu

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dude, what's with the hostile tone? i could care less if it's a four door and the front end is the only part of the car that looks decent, in my opinion......i just personally felt it was ugly, even after i gave it a good look over at the naias......change the stance and a few details and it looks alright, but it was far from a sure thing that this wasn't gonna flop......as for nobody bitching about the 300, it was coming out as the new semi-luxury sedan, not as a muscle car, so why would anyone complain?

jdustu

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riiiiiight......that's quite possibly the dumbest thing i've ever read on this board, which is saying something.......crack is an illegal addictive drug that kills people and/or turns them into ******.....the charger is a car, a perfectly legal form of transportation that would not sell if people did not want to buy it....nobody is in a new york subway restroom stall giving out ******** for a bag of charger.....

and the last sentence is a terrible misuse of a statement that should be reserved for moral arguments rather than what a company should name a flippin car.......

bruddah_man_matt

First of all there is no hostile tone. I'm simply stating the facts. It was obvious that the largest group of people opposing the Charger were traditionalists who are nameplate ****** who refuse to accept that some manufacturers choose to rape heritage and apply old school nameplates to new school products. Sometimes it's crazy and it works ('94-'96 Impala SS, 300C), sometimes it's crap (many aforementioned GM products). With regards to the 300, I'm amazed no one bitched as much as they are with the Charger because the original letter cars up until the Newport based 300H were only available as two door coupes. I'm sure however that most people were more happy that the 300C made a return to rear drive since the 300M was a front driver. My guess is that since the 300M was so lukewarm compared to the 300C, people welcomed the 300C much more than the Charger. If the new Charger had been released immediately following the FWD offerings of the 80s and early 90s, I'm sure people would have reacted differently. IMO RWD and 4 doors is better than FWD and 2 doors. In any case, as with the Charger, traditionalists still believe that its two rear doors should be lopped off. *shurg*

jdustu

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perhaps condescending rather than hostile

as far as facts, trust me it was not "Anybody who's smart knew that the Charger would be a hit"....there were plenty of intelligent nervous folks within dcx hoping it wouldn't pull a gto.....
the four doors was something everyone could and did point at, but it was just an easy thing to point out on an inconsistently designed car....the two doors didn't help the gto sales cuz the car looked bland, and it didn't hurt cars like the impala ss or the 300c because they were bold, beautiful cars......i honestly will be shocked of the charger continues to sell so well, although obviously i hope they do.....

zamboxl

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mariuana!! mariuana mother fker mariuan aint a drug, coke is a drug,
Bob Saget:: weed aint a drug i sucked dick for coke, have you sucked dick for weed???
Dave chapel:: no i cant say that i have. lol sorry but that statment about sucking for a bag of charger brought back some memories lol. we now return you to your regualrly schedule thread.

HPP

Funny, one second you bitch about hostility and condescendingness, and look what comes out of your keyboard the next second. Says a lot really.

"Morals" are to be avoided. They are more trouble than they are worth, as are the people that subscribe strongly to them. "Principles" are a different matter entirely. And they apply to everything, from art to entertainment to products to just plain pride in what one does.

Metallica threw out all of their integrity when they became Selloutica. Chrysler was equally whorish when ignoring the integrity of the name plate by making something they thought would sell big, just because it would sell big.

I suppose by your line of thinking then, Rolls Royce could start making cheap econo-boxes and it wouldn't matter, since you see no connection between integrity and products?

And while I shouldn't have to spell something so obvious out, I will, the analogy was a good one, you just missed the point by a mile and then some. Just because something sells, doesn't mean it's good, doesn't mean it's good for the people who buy it, or the people who sell it, and it shouldn't be condoned purely on the basis that it was a "success".

zamboxl

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damn right on man

technical

These cars are fads. In a few years we'll look back and laugh.
Except for the Mustang. Unless Ford goes under too.

TriShield

I think you all get way too caught up in nostalgia. Stop sucking the fun out of all these new cars because they aren't carbon copies of stuff from the 60s. This is 2005, these names and cars should evolve. Sometimes I read boards like this and feel like there's a bunch of eight year olds making these comments.

I think the new Charger is fantastic, and every bit as cool as the originals. It's truer to it's roots than the last RWD Impala SS, funny nobody bitched about how that was simply a black, bulbous Caprice yet the GTO and this car gets lambasted. The 5.0 Mustang looked like the Ford Escort of the time too, oh but it kicks so much ***! I've never figured these double standards out, and I guess I never will.

If the GTO wasn't around, you can bet I'd be giving a Charger Daytona a long, hard look. I hear a manual is on the way for the Charger and Magnum too.

Delux247

Thank god.... that was my only real problem with the Charger. I wonder which 6-speed they'll use?