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Old 04-22-2005, 02:18 AM
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Default LT1 Z28 D1SC vs. LS1 TA N20....upcoming race..

in the next week or so hopefully this race will be going down....

here's the cars:

1998 TransAm M6:
SLP lid, bellow, FRA, K&N filter
SLP loudmouth catback, SLP Y pipe
3.73s
BBK tb
MSD wires
NX wet 100 shot
oem Z06 clutch

1993 Camaro Z28:
moroso CAI
1.6 rockers
msd ignition
mac headers, catted Y, magnaflow catback
ATI D1SC @ 8 psi

the races will more than likely be from low rolls. any predictions?

they will be videotaped and posted asap....
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My guess is the Ls1 will win. I never really seen too many well running stock supercharged LT1's. I'm sure they are out there, but is the 93 an m6 or auto?
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LS1 will win.
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I'll give the nod to the LS1 as well...provided the clutch holds up.
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they are both 6 speeds.....the TA is mine and the camaro is my friend Kevin's
Old 04-22-2005, 03:19 PM
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Im saying the LT1 might have a slight edge on your if you dont spray him. If you spray him, then you will probably get the win.
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if i dont spray i will get killed.......the plan is to spray for the race, lol.
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well there might be another factor to throw in....im supposed to be getting mac headers soon and i might have them on before the race.
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ls1 gets my vote.

good luck!!
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thanks
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LS1 has my vote......even though i am a proud lt1 owner... if the ls1 sprays hes gonna beat him...maybe the lt1 should invest in a stall b 4 the race
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lt1 is an m6 also.....
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lt1 has my vote...with his mods, he should put down about 290 ish whp on a dyno jet? Maybe less? I have seen a couple bolt on d1sc lt1's put down just over 415 whp. Both are 6 speeds so no advantage there, other than your gearing. With your mods, you [I]should be at 400 whp. Either way i predict a damn good race! Post the vid when done.

Also...what gear are you guys running from?
The thing that will problably decide the race is who gets traction...What kind of tires are yuo both running?
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by 290 ish whp i am refering to NA numbers BTW
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Originally Posted by My2kz28
by 290 ish whp i am refering to NA numbers BTW
I don't think any lt1 ever put down anywhere close to 290, with those type of mods, excluding the blower.

But the camaro can wave buhbye to the ta from the getgo...I don't even think this will be much of a race.
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Originally Posted by 02transhawk
I don't think any lt1 ever put down anywhere close to 290, with those type of mods, excluding the blower.

But the camaro can wave buhbye to the ta from the getgo...I don't even think this will be much of a race.
do any research on lt1 cars at all? 290 whp with his mods is achievable. I think the lt1 is going to win...did the lt1 car opt for the twin highflow intercooler upgrade? Is he using the FMU W/O tuning or the tuner kit with custom dyno tuning? Those 2 things are a huge factor, just like the tires you both are running
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Originally Posted by WS6T/A98
Im saying the LT1 might have a slight edge on your if you dont spray him. If you spray him, then you will probably get the win.
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I raced an LT1 (95 TA 6-speed) that had LT's and a few other bolt-on's and a 75 shot BEFORE I had LT's and LS6 intake and we were pretty much dead even on several highway roll runs, but I was actually slightly pulling. We had a couple of quick races from a stop and he took me off the line briefly but than I stopped his pull immediately and seemed to be regaining ground before shutting down. We pulled over and talked for like a half hour. he wouldn't give up on disbelieving my limited mods. At the same time I was in disbelief how fast his car was (or possibly how slow mine was) before he finally revealed he was spraying about 15 minutes after we pulled over. He finally said alright alright I gotta be honest and he went over and hit the purge and i was like son of a bitch, lol. He couldn't believe all i had was a couple of minor bolt-on's...honestly i was surprised myself as I thought he would surely beat me with LT's and a 75 shot.

Anyhow, thats my experience with racing an LT1
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hey man, dont get me wrong....if i had a nickel for every lt1 car ive beaten, id have a dollar at least. Fact of the matter is is no two cars are the same. You take out an lt1 w/ headers on a 75 shot, and id say for your mods you have one badass ls1. He may not have had a bottle heater and there can be other factors, but nice kill regardless. The matter at hand tho is comparing a bolt on n20 TA to a bolt on d1sc z28. The 1993 may have an advantage over other FI due to speed density. Ls1 may have an advantage due to his wet shot. Its hard to say either way who will win based on the information provided. Mullet guy makes no reference to the lt1 being intercooled, and if it inst, then the ls1 will rape the lt1 car (provided it doesnt explode into a fury of detonation). Is the LT1 car being dyno tuned? And if so, what kind of timing are they pulling out of it? Fuel ratio is also a big factor. Do either cars have any supporting suspension mods I.E. sub frame connectors, lower control arms, beefy rearends. If the lt1 car is non intercooled or is intercooled but not getting dyno tuning, the ls1 will most likely win. If the Lt1 car has the twin intercoolers, 42# injectors, and dyno tuning, then i think it will be a fuggin awesome race, but i leave it to traction and how well both of the cars run. Either way you it, both you guys have badass cars, but in the end, i think the lt1 with the breather will prevail.
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the LT1 did 281 rwhp/315 rwtq before the blower......its supposed to be getting dyno tuned in the next week or so. the shop thats doing it claims they will get him 450 rwhp out of it but i have been hearing of LT1s frying rings with over 400 on boost.....



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